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Fizics
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07/12/2017 05:49PM  
I bought this Martins 10% permethrine and diluted it 1 parts permethrine and 19 parts water, 0.5% concentration and soaked a single pair of pants and my 2 long sleeve shirts, hat, hell I soaked my hammock, my 10x12 CCS, and my friends gear too. The other 3 fellas did not partake.

Lemme tell ya, the hammock area was dubbed the "the bug zapper". I was dusting dead squitos off my bright yellow tarp the whole trip. The 3 guys were making great use of the 3M Ultrathon I recommended, I barely used mine. Bugs would get my neck and head, and hands too, crafty bastards. I didn't notice any bugs interested in getting near my pants or shirts, was nice knowing where they'd attack from.

If you're looking for the big guns in bug repellent, consider spraying/soaking with permethrine. Bonus points if you buy 10%, had I bought the Sawyer premised, I'd have used 3 bottles easily. Martin's was $20 and I think it'll last years before I run out. There WAS a "smell", but it was easily put out of mind and wore off a few hours after wear. I threw my clothes in the wash for the fastest cycle I could, 20 ish minutes, without detergents.
 
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OldFingers57
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07/12/2017 06:24PM  
Yes it works great on clothing especially for ticks. I've been using it for over 15 years now.
 
kbm
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07/12/2017 09:26PM  
which specific product are you using. I used amazon to search for it, and there are a bunch of different "types" of permetherine.
 
Papa09
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07/12/2017 09:42PM  
Works great! I won't go without it!
 
07/13/2017 07:34AM  
For ticks it's amazing. I'm also a firm believer.
 
07/13/2017 08:04AM  
quote kbm: "which specific product are you using. I used amazon to search for it, and there are a bunch of different "types" of permetherine."

This is the one I've picked up from Amazon - need to dilute it further than the OP did though. Permethrin
 
07/13/2017 10:37AM  
I get Hi Yield lawn & garden 10% concentrate from my local seed & feed shop. Usually go thru a quart bottle every 1 1/2 seasons. Keep your unused concentrate indoors, or at least protected from freezing, in the winter.
 
Savage Voyageur
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07/13/2017 12:53PM  
They said there would be no math. That's why I use Sawyer spray bottle, it's easy and simple. I just love the stuff. It keeps the creepy crawlers at bay.
 
Fizics
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07/13/2017 02:56PM  
quote kbm: "which specific product are you using. I used amazon to search for it, and there are a bunch of different "types" of permetherine."


https://www.amazon.com/Martins-Permethrin-10-32oz-Quart/dp/B00061MSS0 that's exactly what I bought. Savage voyaguers Sawyers works just as good but it's already diluted when you buy it, at the proper 0.5% concentration. It just wouldn't have worked for my needs. I filled a plastic tub up with the mixture and just dunked everything in, including my tarp and hammock, then I let it sit for an hour before I hung them on a clothesline in my garage for a few days to dry. Worked awesome for my big bulky items. Keep your cats away!!!
 
Fizics
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07/13/2017 03:05PM  
quote ParkerMag: "
quote kbm: "which specific product are you using. I used amazon to search for it, and there are a bunch of different "types" of permetherine."

This is the one I've picked up from Amazon - need to dilute it further than the OP did though. Permethrin "


That's much more concentrated than what I bought. I bought 10%. Same stuff just different math, yours will last 3.2x longer lol
 
arm2008
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07/13/2017 08:36PM  
I just did a pair of pants and a shirt, plus 4 pair of socks. And my camp pants. After drying in the basement for 3 days they just wouldn't finish drying due to the current high humidity so I finally tossed them in the dryer for about 15 min. Finished drying and smell almost totally gone.
I used the Martins. Has a measuring attachment (squeeze to fill the measuring cup portion). I did the gallon baggie method - put the item in the bag, add 3 oz of the diluted permethrin, seal, and let soak for an hour or more. Amazing how it wicks through the clothing - I never thought 3 oz would be enough.
Guard against your feline friends coming in contact with the wet solution.
 
BobDobbs
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07/14/2017 09:59AM  



this is for the 36% stuff you can buy off Amazon.

FWIW - I also use it around the house, so the bulk savings vs the premixed Sawyer stuff really adds up for me.
 
07/14/2017 07:42PM  
I also use the Sawyer spay on. I am a history teacher...no math for me!
 
schweady
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07/20/2017 07:51PM  
 
07/21/2017 02:49PM  
I am firm believer in it as well. Used it a few years ago and had almost zero problems with bugs except around hands and face. Even that was lower than I would have expected given the season. Will not go without it now.
 
arm2008
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07/24/2017 10:43AM  
Seriously disappointed in watching mosquitos bite me through my freshly permethrine treated pants while camping last week. I followed the directions for soaking and drying. Humidity has been crazy high here this summer and getting the clothes to dry after soaking took a long time and finally 15 min in dryer on low. Not sure what to think.
 
07/24/2017 10:53AM  
quote arm2008: "Seriously disappointed in watching mosquitos bite me through my freshly permethrine treated pants while camping last week. Not sure what to think."

Keep in mind Permethrin's an insecticide, not a repellant. Bet they all flew off and died shortly after! Largely why I think the stuff's real value is more in dealing with ticks than it is mosquitoes.
 
arm2008
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07/24/2017 04:15PM  

Keep in mind Permethrin's an insecticide, not a repellant. Bet they all flew off and died shortly after! Largely why I think the stuff's real value is more in dealing with ticks than it is mosquitoes."


I thought about that. But I wanted to see them keel over right there!
 
07/25/2017 01:41PM  
Can anyone recommend a non petroleum based version or Permethrine?
 
07/25/2017 01:47PM  
quote arm2008: " But I wanted to see them keel over right there!"

Yeah, that delay's NOWHERE near as satisfying!
 
Fizics
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07/26/2017 02:17AM  
quote GreyOwl: "Can anyone recommend a non petroleum based version or Permethrine?"


I think the Sawyers is non-petrol.
 
07/26/2017 12:28PM  
quote GreyOwl: "Can anyone recommend a non petroleum based version or Permethrine?"


Have used both Saywers Permethrin Clothing Spray, and currently Duration Permethrin 10 Clothing Soak . Both contain some petroleum distillate (mineral oil), are water soluble, designed specifically for treating outer wear, do not smell when dried (to my nose).

butthead
 
Thwarted
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07/26/2017 09:42PM  
I get mine from the local farm supply store and dilute it in a one gallon sprayer. I lay my stuff out on the deck, pump up the sprayer and go to it. I let it dry, flip and repeat. Leftover spray goes around the foundation of the house. Simple and effective. Such awesome stuff that eventually we will discover some horrible side effect.
 
07/27/2017 07:55AM  
quote Fizics: "
quote GreyOwl: "Can anyone recommend a non petroleum based version or Permethrine?"


I think the Sawyers is non-petrol. "

I was looking for a less expensive concentrate that I could dilute to .5%.
 
Fizics
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07/27/2017 12:16PM  
quote GreyOwl: "
quote Fizics: "
quote GreyOwl: "Can anyone recommend a non petroleum based version or Permethrine?"



I think the Sawyers is non-petrol. "

I was looking for a less expensive concentrate that I could dilute to .5%."


Do you know that you'll have an reaction with petroleoum?
 
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