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07/13/2017 05:32PM (Thread Older Than 3 Years)
So I thought I better test my Coleman 533 before we take off for our trip Sunday. The stove hasn't been used in a few years. Filled it up with fuel, lit it, and noticed some flames were coming from a place they shouldn't.
It must have been dropped at one time because there is a hairline crack in the tank where the valve assembly connects. Is there anything I can do to fix this. JB Weld?
Second question: If I give up on this an pickup a 2 burner Coleman propane stove, how many of those little bottles do you think we would need for 4 people and 5 days/4nights? Not every meal will require a stove.
Any info is appreciated.
It must have been dropped at one time because there is a hairline crack in the tank where the valve assembly connects. Is there anything I can do to fix this. JB Weld?
Second question: If I give up on this an pickup a 2 burner Coleman propane stove, how many of those little bottles do you think we would need for 4 people and 5 days/4nights? Not every meal will require a stove.
Any info is appreciated.
07/13/2017 06:42PM
I would not fix it, too much to go wrong with a tank of fuel pressurized near the burner. I've fixed and cleaned many 533's and other Coleman single burners, but will not try on a fuel tank fitting that's stuck of cracked.
533's are easy to find in good condition around $35, if you want to stay with one.
Need 2 burners? Instead of a 2 burner propane suitcase, I'll recommend 2 isobutane single burners. I purchased an Aloc's single burner, have used it a dozen times and like it a lot.
Far as fuel use it's more to do with cooking style than fuel type. All petrol fuels kerosene, white gas, butane, isobutane, propane, and various mixes, have comparable btu output per oz of fuel. 8 oz of each cooks roughly the same amount.
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533's are easy to find in good condition around $35, if you want to stay with one.
Need 2 burners? Instead of a 2 burner propane suitcase, I'll recommend 2 isobutane single burners. I purchased an Aloc's single burner, have used it a dozen times and like it a lot.
Far as fuel use it's more to do with cooking style than fuel type. All petrol fuels kerosene, white gas, butane, isobutane, propane, and various mixes, have comparable btu output per oz of fuel. 8 oz of each cooks roughly the same amount.
butthead
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07/13/2017 08:35PM
quote butthead: "
Need 2 burners? Instead of a 2 burner propane suitcase, I'll recommend 2 isobutane single burners. I purchased an Aloc's single burner, have used it a dozen times and like it a lot.
butthead"
Thanks for the recommendation. Gets a little tougher when I need something by Sunday when we leave. If my repair doesn't work, we will pick something up along the way, or I will contact our outfitter about renting something.
Found some gas tank repair epoxy. Stuff looks like brass brazing when setting. Says good to 500 psi, but that's advertising. Used emery cloth to get it down to bare metal and cleaned it up well before putting on the epoxy. The crack was only about 3/8" long. Will pressurize and give it a go tomorrow night.
Anyone know of a good store in Duluth to pick something up if needed? Would like to stay with white gas if possible.
07/13/2017 11:04PM
quote Ausable: "The problem is that the crack may continue to grow (I am a metallurgist by profession). That tank is a safety risk that would be unacceptable to me."Even if it is stop drilled and Tig welded?
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
07/14/2017 09:56AM
quote Arcola: "quote Ausable: "The problem is that the crack may continue to grow (I am a metallurgist by profession). That tank is a safety risk that would be unacceptable to me."Even if it is stop drilled and Tig welded?
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Your solution should work, but bpneiman intended to put epoxy over the crack.
This may sound paranoid, but if I were you, I would get a signed statement absolving me from fault if the repair fails for any reason and someone gets injured.
07/14/2017 10:04AM
I'm tempted to share a story here about a friend who had a stove tank blow up killing one person and severely burning two others but I won't.
Why take a risk with a defective stove when you can go to Cabela's or many other sporting goods stores and buy a new white gas/multifuel 2 burner Coleman to replace the one you have.
On trips of 4 or more people I always take mine. It sits on a very light weight aluminum stove stand I bought off ebay. I enjoy having two burners when I need it. I like standing up to cook as opposed to squatting or groveling in the dirt with a pan precariously perched on a burner head. After 40 trips I know exactly how much gas to take alone too.
Its not that heavy and its not that hard to portage if one uses just a small measure of care.
Have a safe trip.
Why take a risk with a defective stove when you can go to Cabela's or many other sporting goods stores and buy a new white gas/multifuel 2 burner Coleman to replace the one you have.
On trips of 4 or more people I always take mine. It sits on a very light weight aluminum stove stand I bought off ebay. I enjoy having two burners when I need it. I like standing up to cook as opposed to squatting or groveling in the dirt with a pan precariously perched on a burner head. After 40 trips I know exactly how much gas to take alone too.
Its not that heavy and its not that hard to portage if one uses just a small measure of care.
Have a safe trip.
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07/14/2017 04:30PM
A quick point about the Coleman integrated tank stoves. The fuel pickup and air bleeds are in the tank, and the valves often become thread-locked over time causing difficult removal to flush the tank.
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07/14/2017 08:58PM
quote Ausable: "quote Arcola: "quote Ausable: "The problem is that the crack may continue to grow (I am a metallurgist by profession). That tank is a safety risk that would be unacceptable to me."Even if it is stop drilled and Tig welded?
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Your solution should work, but bpneiman intended to put epoxy over the crack.
This may sound paranoid, but if I were you, I would get a signed statement absolving me from fault if the repair fails for any reason and someone gets injured."
Point taken. Metallurgy has always fascinated me.
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
07/15/2017 05:44PM
Since you have a short time frame, I would rent one for this trip and contact Coleman for a replacement tank. Replacing it should be a pretty straight forward and easy repair. As has been expressed, don't try to glue a crack in a pressurized tank full of flammable liquid. The closest hospital might be a couple of days away.
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