Wintons Roadhouse starting tomorrow will sell liquor 11-6. I only posted this because of the fuss and concerns of those who posted here worried that they couldn't buy in Ely on Sunday. Now those that need booze on Sunday it is only a couple of miles away!!

Do they sell any beer in plastic bottles?

Thanks for the info.

I think you misunderstood the previous thread. People weren't necessarily upset they couldn't get booze on Sunday they were upset at the principal a town would create an ordinance outlawing liquor sales---it was the regulation of business and imposing restrictions on business sales that upset people (for the most part---there were probably a few worried about booze lol ).

If the liquor stores of Ely had banded together and said we will not open on Sunday then I personally would applaud them, they have every right to make that CHOICE, but they went to the city and asked for a ban instead. In my opinion that is un-American, it looks like they were afraid of some type of competition coming in so they used the city to secure their business and took away the potential CHOICE from others. Makes me wonder if the liquor store owners are on the city council or have buddies that are...I am against cronyism not whether they sell booze or not.

I would have the same response if it was something other than booze...could be lumber, toys, gas etc...

T

They didn't ask for a ban. They asked the long time ban not be lifted.

I guess if the elected representatives do what you like, it's democracy, and if they do something you don't like, it's un-American.

In in the camp that there must be something a little off in anyone who wants to be an elected representative.

quote billconner: "They didn't ask for a ban. They asked the long time ban not be lifted.


I guess if the elected representatives do what you like, it's democracy, and if they do something you don't like, it's un-American.
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Three liquor stores deciding what a whole city or area does is democracy? But yes you have a good point asking for the ban to remain in place isn't as bad as asking for a new ban.

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Not sure what the big deal is, I spend my money at those places...I do wonder about the people that don't live there making a Hubbaloo about not buying on Sunday actually buy their Alcohol in Ely let alone on Sunday if open.
Seems to be a non issue for me.

Time for a resurgence for Winton!

My guess is that most visitors to Ely are barely aware of Winton.

quote timatkn: "

quote billconner: "They didn't ask for a ban. They asked the long time ban not be lifted.



I guess if the elected representatives do what you like, it's democracy, and if they do something you don't like, it's un-American.
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Three liquor stores deciding what a whole city or area does is democracy? But yes you have a good point asking for the ban to remain in place isn't as bad as asking for a new ban.


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The elected representatives of the citizens of Ely decided, not the stores. I think it's a little un-democratic for people in a state capital or Washington to decide what's best for the citizens if Ely as regards when their stores are open.

When I'm up I always have a few in Winton.

Less tourists...

Billconnor I don't know why I am arguing this because it has no affect on me...but I can't help myself :)

My original point is people aren't worried about booze they are worried about choices and cronyism. State law opens up the rules...3 stores go to local politicians and ask for the ban to stay in place, they could of chose to not be open, but they essentially worked to limit competition and the options of others. Were any of the politicians that made the decision friends or family? I don't know but it smells fishy. Listening to constituents is one thing, but listening to business looking out for their own interests is not Democracy at it's finest. I guess we just disagree on the effect business's should have on politicians.

If the liquor stores had made the choice to stay closed and the town supported them...that would be Democracy at it's finest and would of sent a strong message...one that I personally support. But they didn't do that.

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The liquor stores in Ely said they wanted to stay closed, and asked the City to keep the no liquor on Sunday law the same as it was.
Sounds like a Democracy to me, since the new state law would have only affected these three businesses!

quote The Great Outdoors: "The liquor stores in Ely said they wanted to stay closed, and asked the City to keep the no liquor on Sunday law the same as it was.
Sounds like a Democracy to me, since the new state law would have only affected these three businesses!"

Are the bait stores still open on Sundays? :)

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quote The Great Outdoors: "The liquor stores in Ely said they wanted to stay closed, and asked the City to keep the no liquor on Sunday law the same as it was.
Sounds like a Democracy to me, since the new state law would have only affected these three businesses!"

Are the bait stores still open on Sundays? :)"

They are open, but they only still crankbaits on Sundays.

Maybe the definition of democracy has changed? The good people of Ely don't see a need to be open Sunday( the ones related to me and the ones that I have talked to), the elected city officials and the liquor stores felt no need. So what am I missing?

Timatkn do you live in Ely? I have not since I was a kid. However I think the people of Ely do a better job of taking care of things then most cities in this state. Look at Minneapolis fines a liquor store $50,000.00 for being open on Sunday. Maybe Minneapois is the new face of democracy.

Logic

quote timatkn: " Logic "

Love it!

quote ellahallely: "Maybe the definition of democracy has changed? The good people of Ely don't see a need to be open Sunday( the ones related to me and the ones that I have talked to), the elected city officials and the liquor stores felt no need. So what am I missing?

Timatkn do you live in Ely? I have not since I was a kid. However I think the people of Ely do a better job of taking care of things then most cities in this state. Look at Minneapolis fines a liquor store $50,000.00 for being open on Sunday. Maybe Minneapois is the new face of democracy.

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So, by your logic, anyone not living in Ely has no right offering an opinion-especially if it differs from yours. May I suggest, if you are so thin skinned, do not post anything on this site that may go against your grain.

quote The Great Outdoors: "The liquor stores in Ely said they wanted to stay closed..."

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quote timatkn: " I guess we just disagree on the effect business's should have on politicians.




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never mind that these businesses are owned by individuals

For some it is OK for government to tell business how to run their business but it is not OK for a business to tell a government how they want to run their business.
because we all know business = bad

quote timatkn: " Logic "

Timatkn for president! That's my democracy!

I work with a three different liquor stores. Two of the three (managers) wanted to stay closed because they liked to have Sundays off. They are all muni stores so the City's got to decide.

Ely stores are not municipal stores, I really don't think the city should decide if they can be open or not. If the state says it is ok, then it should be left up to the store owners.

If one does, the rest will probably feel like they also need to be open.

Anyway, I really don't care. It isn't a big deal to me. I would rather have weed dispensaries open in MN ANY DAY of the week.

Im curious how many other local governments decided to keep the ban. Maybe others have better Google fu than I. I did find an article that the it was state reps from the cities and large population centers who voted for ending the ban, and rural reps against. Also interesting that the big box liquor stores who supported Sunday sales out spent - lobbying and no doubt campaign contributions - the associations that represent small mom and pop stores who were against it.

I remain in favor of the rights of the minorities - rural communities and small stores - to control their own area. I don't see why the big city politicians and big box stores have the right to tell rural communities what to do. I have no problem with them doing what they want where they live. And when a big box store opens in Ely and puts mom and pops out of business it will be to late, like it is for so many communities.



Tribune article

Billconnor according to a recent argument on this thread you don't live in MN and your state of residence is basically going into bankruptcy so you are not allowed to comment :)

Bill you and I are obviously having two totally different discussions/arguments, maybe if we were sitting around a campfire talking back and forth it would be worthwhile and fun to continue. I don't necessarily disagree with anything you have said but your comments/examples don't address my specific argument.

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All this talk, now I'm thirsty.

Big deal...the church I attend has had Sunday liquor for over 100 years...and it's FREE! Just a little will do ya;)

That place in Winton has been selling it out the back door on Sundays forever. I thought that was common knowledge. At least now it won't have to seem so shady... It is about time MN caught up to what everyone else has been doing for decades.

quote jamotrade: "That place in Winton has been selling it out the back door on Sundays forever. I thought that was common knowledge. At least now it won't have to seem so shady... It is about time MN caught up to what everyone else has been doing for decades."

Good for them! If some liquor stores want to be closed on Sunday, that's their prerogative. If others want to open, same thing.

quote billconner: "Im curious how many other local governments decided to keep the ban. Maybe others have better Google fu than I. I did find an article that the it was state reps from the cities and large population centers who voted for ending the ban, and rural reps against. Also interesting that the big box liquor stores who supported Sunday sales out spent - lobbying and no doubt campaign contributions - the associations that represent small mom and pop stores who were against it.
I remain in favor of the rights of the minorities - rural communities and small stores - to control their own area. I don't see why the big city politicians and big box stores have the right to tell rural communities what to do. I have no problem with them doing what they want where they live. And when a big box store opens in Ely and puts mom and pops out of business it will be to late, like it is for so many communities.
Tribune article "

Ely does not have a strong enough economy for any big box stores to open.
All small business in towns this size battle for every customer, since many stores sell identical items.
One thing people that live in larger cities do not realize about small markets, if one liquor store in Ely decided to be open, all must be open.
They approached the council and asked that the current ordinance on the books, be left as is.
Now they can get one day a week off, and no one is hurt.