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Birdknowsbest
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10/07/2017 08:23PM  
Still havent found what I am looking for.

I want a lightweight pot that can boil water quick on a alcohol stove like a MSR dragonfly but also works over an open fire/coals.

I was looking at this MSR kettle bc they just came out with a 2L version called the Big Kettle that only weighs 6 ounces.

I will mostly be using for boiling water for coffee etc but possibly for melting snow in the winter. I am not sure this is suggested to go over open coals. We normally bring a small stove with in case of rain to be able to cook if we cant use the fire grate. I would also like to be able to use it on my wood stove in my hot tent.

Does such a product exist? If so, please let me know.

thanks

Caw
 
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Wayouttroy
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10/07/2017 10:29PM  
Take a look at the Four Dog Stoves site, Bushcooker pots.
 
bwcasolo
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10/08/2017 06:05AM  
pot
here is what i use with my fancee feest alcohol stove. it does have a nice lid kenny makes as well, my foster cup, which i got from him also nest inside with my windscreen. i only boil water as well.
 
fishANDchips
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10/08/2017 07:21AM  
Mors Bush Pot. You can get them at Ben's Backwoods:

Bens Backwoods

Ben's also sells the Zebra pot which is indestructible but heavier. I have both and there are pros/cons to each. Currently using the Mors more frequently because I enjoy the handles, nice tight-fitting lid, lighter weight, and less prone to stick. Have used the Mors over coals/fire many times with no problems – there are a thousand youtube videos of others doing the same. The Zebra is stainless steel and will endure as much fire as you like. I did replace the bail with wire because it packs better. Ben’s will also put a bail on the smaller version if you ask. The Zebra does come in bigger sizes and has a little steaming insert that a lot of people like.
 
mastertangler
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10/08/2017 07:38AM  
Solo stove has a nifty little pot which works well over an open fire as well as a stove.
 
10/08/2017 08:23AM  
Trying not to be too anal but Dragonfly stoves from MSR do not use alcohol.

I do not quite understand the trouble of cooking over a fire either. I have used stainless (my preferred material), plain aluminum, anodized aluminum, and titanium over open fires without a problem. If the fire is hot enough to melt/burn thru raw aluminum, it's way to hot to cook over.

The indicated size is 2 liter and currently the only same sized pots I have now are stainless MSR Alpine sets.
The Alpine 2 Set, just 2 liter pot and lid weigh 10 ounces.
The 2 liter from Alpine 4 Set and lid weigh 11 ounces.

I have an anodized aluminum 1 liter Alocs pot that gets used over open flames weighing 6 1/2 ounces including lid.

The lightest closest sized in my pile-O-stuff is a titanium 1400 ml Snowpeak 7 1/2 ounces lid and pot. Titanium is nearly indestructible and I clean burned on cooking residue by heating it till it glows cherry red.


Just to display that you can boil water in many types of containers, Boiling water in paper cup in a fire.

butthead
 
10/08/2017 09:05AM  
I use the Imus cup, aka Hillbilly pot, that was mentioned above. My alcohol stove, windscreen, lighter and alcohol fit nicely inside. On the outside, I made a cozy from reflective material to keep things warm. Works great over an open fire too.
 
10/08/2017 11:50AM  
Mors Pot fan.

Bail is good for hanging over a campfire.

Lid fits snugly. If you accidentally knock it over you won't lose the lid.

Folding handles on the side.

Hard anodized aluminum. Good over any fire source.
 
10/08/2017 05:32PM  
I like the looks of the small Mors pot. May pick one up sometime. But so far the '5 cup Open Country coffee pot " has been super handy.
 
10/09/2017 11:04AM  
The MSR linked by OP is titanium. It will do fine over a fire, alky stove, canister stove, Svea-type white gas stove or any other cooking regimen.
 
10/09/2017 12:54PM  
I was recently searching for a kettle to boil water for tea...found the perfect size for me (about 7 cups). Very happy with the purchase.



Stainless Kettle
 
10/09/2017 04:31PM  
quote fadersup: "I was recently searching for a kettle to boil water for tea...found the perfect size for me (about 7 cups). Very happy with the purchase.



Stainless Kettle "
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Does it come with a lid?
 
Birdknowsbest
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10/09/2017 04:36PM  
Thanks for all the suggestions. Has anyone used the MSR Kettle?

I like the size and weight of its new bigger brother.

MSR Big Kettle
 
walleyevision
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10/09/2017 04:39PM  
I hear the Humboldt valley may have what you're looking for ;)
 
Birdknowsbest
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10/09/2017 04:41PM  
This was another option. I want something big enough to be able to melt snow in the winter as well.

Toaks 2000Ml

Walleyvision. I'm all good on that front. :)
 
muddyfeet
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10/09/2017 06:04PM  
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I vaguely recall spending a fair amount of time in college looking for the perfect pot...

...but for boiling water in camp, I have had good success with the Toaks 850 pot as part of a solo kit. The titanium is light and has held up well 3 years now. The 'tall-and-skinny' ones work better with a windscreen over a stove, while the 'short-and-round' ones would be better suited to open fire or wood stove cooking.

However, I use a set of MSR aluminum ones for group cooking, and an old aluminum frypan for open fire work. I'm sure a lot of people like me would say that it's difficult to have too much many pot(s) ;)
 
10/10/2017 05:45AM  
Keith titanium pots come in larger sizes like 2.5l and even 6l so if you're looking for a ti pot for melting snow these are about the best option out there. For cooking over open fire I highly recommend getting a pot that either already has a bail handle or can be rigged with one. Doing that with the msr kettle would be tricky...

I really love my toaks 1.6l pot with the bail handle, but it's just a bit small for melting snow. Another thing to consider is that aluminum may actually be more efficient weight-wise on a longer winter camping trip than titanium because it heats more efficiently. When you spend a great deal of time melting snow that thermal efficiency can pay off pretty quick in fuel saved.... Heat exchangers are great too.
 
10/10/2017 10:37AM  
I know it's a BWCA related website, but my first thought of what this thread was about is definitely not what it ended up being. Thought it might be something m,ore suited to a Colorado forum. ;)
 
blackdawg9
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10/06/2019 07:31PM  
the issue with titan pots and cooking over fire is, if you cook directly on the flame or coals. that ribbed bottom can flex and stress fracture. i have done it a couple of times in my wood stove.

i'm not quite happy with my snow peak 1400 size and was eyeing teh titan2 also.snow peak is made with heavier titanium and i have no issues cooking right over the coals. it won't break. their skillet lids are junky, oli camp makes a 3 quart stainless pot set.

check out primus also. they won't break the bank and have the tea kettle, every one is making now. that might work. [winter treker likes those alot]
 
MisterKrabs
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10/07/2019 07:12AM  
This Bad Boy right here Is very light (about 6 oz, without the knob) holds about 1.5qt, nests a large canister with stove and only costs $7. I buy them when I swing by walmart and give them away as gifts to camper friends. They go in the fire, on the fire, on a burner, on a wood stove, whatever - did I mention they're dirt cheap?

My standard setup is this with a toaks wood stove, a small canister with a stove, a 450ml titanium cup and a bic lighter, all nested with the lid on.
 
Rs130754
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10/07/2019 11:56AM  
fishANDchips: "Mors Bush Pot. You can get them at Ben's Backwoods:


Bens Backwoods
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Perfect for my needs. I have a 2 and 4 quart nonstick Open country set but use the Mors more often because of the pour spout. I do wish the handles were a bit larger like on my Olicamp space saver mug but overall I think it is a great value for my use.
 
Shimbo
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10/08/2019 09:25AM  
I use the GSI Stainless Kettle and the MSR Stowaway pot (1.6 L). Both are stainless and can be used over an open fire or on coals directly. I bought them for the versatility. I use them for backpacking away from the BWCA, too. I have heard that titanium on an open fire or coals could be a bad idea.
 
TechnoScout
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10/09/2019 11:32AM  
I have used this Evernew Titanium 1.9L pot for about 12 years (once to Philmont, 10 BWCA trips and about 100 misc scout campouts). I can pack my whisperlite international + windscreens and pump inside. I have never cooked over a fire with it, however.

This is a pot
 
tumblehome
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10/09/2019 12:05PM  
MisterKrabs: " This Bad Boy right here Is very light (about 6 oz, without the knob) holds about 1.5qt, nests a large canister with stove and only costs $7. I buy them when I swing by walmart and give them away as gifts to camper friends. They go in the fire, on the fire, on a burner, on a wood stove, whatever - did I mention they're dirt cheap?


My standard setup is this with a toaks wood stove, a small canister with a stove, a 450ml titanium cup and a bic lighter, all nested with the lid on."


If you boil water in an aluminum pot and give the water a taste, you will never use aluminum again.
Tom
 
10/09/2019 12:58PM  
"If you boil water in an aluminum pot and give the water a taste, you will never use aluminum again."

Depends a lot on the alloy and surface treatment. There is no such taste with a surface hardened pot or pan and some extra thickness spreads and transfers heat better. I will admit that I do not care for the aluminum taste imparted by softer less costly pots and do not use anymore. GSI Halulite Minimalist II, and the Alocs hard surfaced 1 liter pots, are my general use favorites for aluminum. Far as just boiling an aluminum pot tends to be more efficient of the materials in my comparison with titanium and stainless, heating quickly and more evenly than either.
Want light weight and near indestructibility go titanium, just know it spot burns quicly and easily.
Want to cook past simple boiling but keep weight manageable go stainless.
Hard surfaced aluminum is a compromise of both.

butthead
 
Cedarboy
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10/09/2019 08:13PM  
Wayouttroy: "Take a look at the Four Dog Stoves site, Bushcooker pots."


Made by Open Country
Check out their www. Sometimes run great deals on overstocks.
CB
 
TechnoScout
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10/09/2019 08:25PM  
Cedarboy: "
Wayouttroy: "Take a look at the Four Dog Stoves site, Bushcooker pots."



Made by Open Country
Check out their www. Sometimes run great deals on overstocks.
CB"


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Cedarboy
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10/11/2019 04:21PM  
Sorry I meant the Mors pot. Thr Bushcooker is the stove.
Someone wrote Bushcooker Pot, confused.
To clarify the Mors pot is made by Open Country.
CB
 
iCallitMaize
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10/20/2019 11:08AM  
Scout64: "I use the Imus cup, aka Hillbilly pot, that was mentioned above. My alcohol stove, windscreen, lighter and alcohol fit nicely inside. On the outside, I made a cozy from reflective material to keep things warm. Works great over an open fire too. "


Yes....I use the Stanco grease pot solo and mainstays grease pot tandem with an iso stove or homemade alcohol stove. Now...I do think the economical Stanley pot is a great TOUGH option if I am using it in the fire....nests right in a GSI mug.

There are so many knock off titanium pots these days that you can find them at competitive prices if you want to go that route. I haven’t splurged on a titanium set yet, but someone above mentioned they were just fine in the fire.

 
mjmkjun
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10/26/2019 05:59AM  
Did you ever find your "perfect" pot, Birdknowsbest? :)
 
10/26/2019 10:45AM  
walleyevision: "I hear the Humboldt valley may have what you're looking for ;)
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Yeah thats along the same lines of what I was thinking.
 
PenokeeRanger
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10/26/2019 09:37PM  
It’s not 2L but this company does larger pots. All in SS and I think all have measuring marks. This one I have and use with my Whisperlite Universal and MSR Pocket Rocket. I am happy with it. Solo Stove Pot 900
 
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