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ellahallely
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10/08/2017 07:37AM  
Three tribes will be hunting moose in the Arrowhead region of Minnesota. Opens Saturday Oct. 23rd. Fond du Lac Band, Grand Portage Band and Bois Forte Band, all Chippewa. I think last year at most 75 moose could be taken. The actual numbers were a little less last year.

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Savage Voyageur
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10/08/2017 08:44AM  
I totally disagree with this decision to allow anyone to hunt moose. The numbers are just not at the level for anyone to remove more from the heard.

With that said, I also understand the reason for them taking the resources from the land. If you are talking about hunting, fishing, trapping or whatever, it’s their land. If there has to be some taken, I’m glad it's someone in the Chippewa nation and not just someone looking for a rack on the wall.
 
QueticoMike
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10/08/2017 05:12PM  
I feel the same way, there doesn't seem to be many moose left, they shouldn't be killing them they should be trying to find out why their numbers are dwindling.
 
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10/09/2017 09:05AM  
quote QueticoMike: "I feel the same way, there doesn't seem to be many moose left, they shouldn't be killing them they should be trying to find out why their numbers are dwindling."


Make absolutely NO SENSE, just one more poke in the eye is all it is. If the loss of 44 bulls "doesn't matter", as the DNR proclaims (under political pressure I might add) then why didn't they host a hunt with 44 available tags this fall (for EVERYONE)?
 
10/09/2017 10:17AM  
Its a season that should not be held.
 
10/09/2017 12:35PM  
I hate to see moose hunted with numbers dwindling. However, I agree with the season being limited to the native tribes.

I grew up listening to people bellyache about Native privileges that weren't extended to everyone. That perspective still boggles my mind.

Let's hope the DNR can manage things properly so we have those magnificent creatures roaming the north woods for generations to come.
 
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10/09/2017 03:09PM  
quote fadersup: "I hate to see moose hunted with numbers dwindling. However, I agree with the season being limited to the native tribes.


I grew up listening to people bellyache about Native privileges that weren't extended to everyone. That perspective still boggles my mind.


Let's hope the DNR can manage things properly so we have those magnificent creatures roaming the north woods for generations to come."


It boggles my mind that every other bumper sticker I see says "COEXIST", that most of everything you see and hear on the MSM and from Hollywood screams eliminate our differences and let's all live peacefully as one, blah blah blah, yet there in the middle of it all is a so-called sovereign nation within a nation...skimming the cream mind you, yet not living by the same set of rules. THAT boggles my mind, and has nothing to do with reparations or who came first, or racism...but has everything to do with the fact that we will never "heal" or "coexist" if there isn't a level playing field. If the DNR saw fit that our population wouldn't be harmed by the native hunt then it should of saw it fit that everybody else could participate, too. Having said that, I think a moose hunt for anyone right now is ludicrous.
 
10/09/2017 03:20PM  
I do know it has been very hard to co-manage the resource when each has there own objective and the MN DNR is tied by legal reasons or Politics above. The DNR employees were never trained for what is going on. Their mainly biologists.
 
10/09/2017 04:52PM  
Life isn't fair. Certain groups in our country have been systematically denied a level playing field for decades or centuries and you're the victim?

I'll agree with you that a moose hunt right now is a bad idea. Sign in and we can share our distaste for playing politics with our precious resources.


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quote fadersup: "I hate to see moose hunted with numbers dwindling. However, I agree with the season being limited to the native tribes.



I grew up listening to people bellyache about Native privileges that weren't extended to everyone. That perspective still boggles my mind.



Let's hope the DNR can manage things properly so we have those magnificent creatures roaming the north woods for generations to come."



It boggles my mind that every other bumper sticker I see says "COEXIST", that most of everything you see and hear on the MSM and from Hollywood screams eliminate our differences and let's all live peacefully as one, blah blah blah, yet there in the middle of it all is a so-called sovereign nation within a nation...skimming the cream mind you, yet not living by the same set of rules. THAT boggles my mind, and has nothing to do with reparations or who came first, or racism...but has everything to do with the fact that we will never "heal" or "coexist" if there isn't a level playing field. If the DNR saw fit that our population wouldn't be harmed by the native hunt then it should of saw it fit that everybody else could participate, too. Having said that, I think a moose hunt for anyone right now is ludicrous."
 
10/09/2017 05:08PM  
Actually the MN DNR and wildlife biologists have deemed hunting Moose Bulls has no affect on their population. They stopped hunting for political reasons not biological reasons--that is straight from a radio interview by the head researcher.

There was moose hunting allowed by everyone in the past even when the populations were at their current levels. The current NE Herd is right around 4,000 animals this was the same population that was there in the early 80's then again in the late 80's and early 90's, and then again they dipped in the late 90's with the high point being in the 2006 when it peaked at almost 9,000 moose. If taking bulls hurt the population then how did the moose recover before?

I guess I really like moose and would rather see them protected at this point and 'er on the side of caution myself but all the outrage is a little over the top IMHO.

T
 
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10/10/2017 08:24AM  
quote fadersup: "Life isn't fair. Certain groups in our country have been systematically denied a level playing field for decades or centuries and you're the victim?


I'll agree with you that a moose hunt right now is a bad idea. Sign in and we can share our distaste for playing politics with our precious resources.



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quote fadersup: "I hate to see moose hunted with numbers dwindling. However, I agree with the season being limited to the native tribes.



I grew up listening to people bellyache about Native privileges that weren't extended to everyone. That perspective still boggles my mind.



Let's hope the DNR can manage things properly so we have those magnificent creatures roaming the north woods for generations to come."




It boggles my mind that every other bumper sticker I see says "COEXIST", that most of everything you see and hear on the MSM and from Hollywood screams eliminate our differences and let's all live peacefully as one, blah blah blah, yet there in the middle of it all is a so-called sovereign nation within a nation...skimming the cream mind you, yet not living by the same set of rules. THAT boggles my mind, and has nothing to do with reparations or who came first, or racism...but has everything to do with the fact that we will never "heal" or "coexist" if there isn't a level playing field. If the DNR saw fit that our population wouldn't be harmed by the native hunt then it should of saw it fit that everybody else could participate, too. Having said that, I think a moose hunt for anyone right now is ludicrous."
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Never implied I was a victim, quite the opposite. If we're to coexist we must do it as one, not several entities all vying for the same equality and resources. As you say, "life isn't fair", so let's admit that mistakes have been made and set a timeline (actually a dropdead date would be better) to move past them rather than dwell on them for all of our eternity. THEN we can truly be united. It is no less fair to extend certain rights to certain individuals while excluding others as it is to blame the others for wrongs committed by their ancestors. Everything is political, fact of life, but a something as simple as a moose hunt (or none) doesn't need to be. The elephant in the room is that nobody wants to admit that...and in the mean time the moose are the ones caught in the middle.
 
10/10/2017 07:51PM  
And the cowardly Guest Paddler strikes again.
 
yogi59weedr
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10/10/2017 10:08PM  
Quest paddlers speak with forked tongue ....
 
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10/11/2017 11:01AM  
Feathers ruffle easier here. Love it! :)
 
PaddlinMadeline
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10/11/2017 05:45PM  
The only explanation is that the guest paddler is really a bull moose.
 
ellahallely
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10/22/2017 07:42AM  
I think the guest paddlers are an asset to this site. I enjoy hearing, seeing and reading other peoples opinions. Mr. or Ms. Guest Paddler you should join, your name could be Bullwinkle. Not saying I agree with everything you say.
 
10/22/2017 09:27AM  
quote ellahallely: " I think the guest paddlers are an asset to this site. I enjoy hearing, seeing and reading other peoples opinions. Mr. or Ms. Guest Paddler you should join, your name could be Bullwinkle. Not saying I agree with everything you say."


I like to see guest paddlers just like you for different ideas and maybe advice on a good canoe route. But after so many guest appearances it is time to get on board. Some guest paddlers are helpful and some are trolls(which by the way hurt individuals just getting there feet wet and interest in the BWCA etc.).
 
10/22/2017 09:32AM  
On the Moose hunt for now the only comment is that Co-Management is not working at present for like Mille Lacs you have like 7 Tribal groups with their own agenda and than the MN DNR employee Biologists who have to walk a fine line politically getting attacked on all sides. They are trained to be biologists. Not politicians etc.
The Moose hunt should of never happened you seen one side justifying the Moose hunt,than shutting down Mille lacs etc..
Its tough,I know good biologists but not politicians pretty much get their careers destroyed by doing what should of been the path to follow.
 
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