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Pinetree
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10/20/2017 07:42PM
Interested

It would be interesting - like a 6 month job or so.
 
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riverrunner
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10/21/2017 02:55PM
The fee will be based on a percentage of concessionaire's gross sales minus State and federal taxes. In addition, the permittee will be responsible for all repairs, upkeep, and maintenance

One would need some very hard numbers before submitting a bid to take this on.
Heck one good rain storm could wipe you out just repairing sites and the roads.
QueticoMike
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10/21/2017 03:28PM
quote riverrunner: "The fee will be based on a percentage of concessionaire's gross sales minus State and federal taxes. In addition, the permittee will be responsible for all repairs, upkeep, and maintenance


One would need some very hard numbers before submitting a bid to take this on.
Heck one good rain storm could wipe you out just repairing sites and the roads."


Good point.
10/21/2017 05:30PM
I wouldn't exactly call this a job opening.

Almost all Forest Service campgrounds are run and maintained by contractor's.

Some contractor's do a good job, some not so much. Typically, the contractor's run businesses in the locale of the campground. Along the Gunflint Trail, the two campgrounds I am most familiar with are being run by Outfitters or Resorts. Both seem to be well run.

My favorite campgrounds in the UP of Michigan are operated by a Landscaping company. My favorite UP campground was in such deplorable condition a few years ago that I wrote the Ottawa National Forest Supervisor a letter of complaint. The grass had not been cut, there were big pot holes in the roads, the trash wasn't being picked up on a regular basis and the camping prices were posted wrong on the board by the entrance. After my letter, the campground was in better shape the next year.
yogi59weedr
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10/21/2017 07:15PM
I'm thinking I'm just going to keep working at the golf course one day a week...
10/21/2017 07:15PM
The perils of running a business that is much based on weather can be feast or famine. My garden center is a prime example. A cold wet spring can be detrimental to your entire year. The campground gig would be very similar I would think .
QueticoMike
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10/21/2017 07:41PM
quote yogi59weedr: "I'm thinking I'm just going to keep working at the golf course one day a week..."

Do they have ponds you can fish?
jdevries
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10/24/2017 02:25PM
This would be a tough call without some hard data. For Fall Lake, I think you can count on the campground to be 75%+ occupied June through early September to get a revenue estimate but expenses would be the hard part. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of day to day maintenance required, but water, electric, landscaping, trash removal, wages for those that maintain the sites and restrooms would all be unknowns. I don't think you'd walk away a millionaire any time soon.

JD
bobbernumber3
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10/25/2017 08:07AM
Fall Lake Campground is a beautiful setting and has been well maintained. What happened to the current contractor? Can we expect a decline in services? Signed, Worried.
10/25/2017 09:55AM
quote bobbernumber3: "Fall Lake Campground is a beautiful setting and has been well maintained. What happened to the current contractor? Can we expect a decline in services? Signed, Worried."

Probably nothing happened to the current contractor. The Forest Service has to rebid these contracts every now and then. The current contractor very well may be the winner again.
 
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