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campnfish
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11/14/2017 11:20AM  
I have a new to me lean 3 and is not the + version, since i have not used this yet im curious about keeping things tight during weather, how are people securing the awning to the lean when you want it closed. Is it just getting staked at the bottom or are you tieing loops together somehow, i thought some Velcro up the edges at certain points would make for closing it up easier?
 
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11/14/2017 12:53PM  
I do not have much experience with my Lean1+, but I have just staked the awning around the corners. It is wider than the Lean and wraps around the front corners, making a pretty good seal against wind and rain with stakes set back from the front around the corners. I just reach around the corner to loop the awning on or off the stake. I don't think much, if any, moisture could come in and not far. It is quite windproof with the perimeter staked down. I try to set up with the entrance lower than the rear. Try it out at home if you get a chance. You can also pre-rig the front ridgeline the same way the tarp ridgeline works in the ridgeline stuff sack for a quicker, easier set up.
 
Northwoodsman
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11/14/2017 02:17PM  
I don't have any experience but I have wondered this same question many times. I recently purchased a Lean and it is on the way. My thought is to basically do what boonie does. If there is not a stake-out point in the right spot I would imagine that I will just put a stake in the ground with a small loop of cord on it and use a carabiner to connect the flap to the stake. I look forward to other responses. It seems as though some people use it only as a day shelter, while many also use it to sleep in. I plan on tripping with my Lean instead of a tent. Being a single walled shelter, with little to no airflow going through it when it is closed up, condensation could be an issue in the morning. It will take some trial and error but some challenges are fun and it will certainly cut some weight. I look forward to using it. Now the question is... do I take poles or not?
 
11/14/2017 04:10PM  
The awning is a couple of feet wider at the end than the Lean, so you have a foot on either side. I did not take poles, but did have a fairly long ridgeline and plenty of stakes.

If you pre-rig with a ridgeline, you can just attach one end to a tree, then tighten on the other end, stake it out, guy the sides and rear. I use prussics on each end loop of the ridgeline so I can slide it anywhere along the ridgeline, then tighten the corners with the prussics and stake and guy.
 
11/14/2017 04:51PM  
You do not have to stake the front to the end loops. I normally set my front stakes back at the second (or third) loop and pull the ends in to make a door frame. It's a Lean 1+, but adds more overlap with the awning when battened down.



butthead
 
11/14/2017 06:20PM  
I basically do what butthead does. Most of the time, I just stake out the front of the canopy so the front edge is a foot or so off the ground and I've never had rain get into the shelter.
 
Northwoodsman
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11/14/2017 06:39PM  
butthead, great photos. I like the way you set it up where the front is pretty much perpendicular to the ground vs. more at an angle. Is the mesh front taunt enough to operate the zipper one-handed? Is that a snake hanging between the two ropes on the left in the first picture?
 
campnfish
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11/14/2017 07:30PM  
Thanks for the photos butthead these help a lot.

Can anyone tell me a way to fix a hole in my lean 3, its small, probably the size of a penny, would tenacious tape on inside and out with silicone work?
 
Northwoodsman
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11/14/2017 09:50PM  
Nothing will stick to silicone (Silnyl) except silicone. Try Silnet, the same seam sealer that CCS sends out with their tarps. You can buy it from them or on Amazon. I have some left over from my previous CCS tarps and it comes in real handy. If you contact CCS they may be able to help you with a small patch. A penny is actually a fairly large hole. They will need to know the color and they may perhaps have a small scrap laying around from a project. I tried to patch a hole in my CCS tarp with Tenacious tape. It didn't stick for even a second. A piece of tenacious tape with the Silnet as an adhesive may work.
 
11/14/2017 11:44PM  
quote Northwoodsman: "Nothing will stick to silicone (Silnyl) except silicone. Try Silnet, the same seam sealer that CCS sends out with their tarps. You can buy it from them or on Amazon. I have some left over from my previous CCS tarps and it comes in real handy. If you contact CCS they may be able to help you with a small patch. A penny is actually a fairly large hole. They will need to know the color and they may perhaps have a small scrap laying around from a project. I tried to patch a hole in my CCS tarp with Tenacious tape. It didn't stick for even a second. A piece of tenacious tape with the Silnet as an adhesive may work."


A cheaper and more readily available option is "Flowable Silicone Windshield and Glass Sealer." I've used it, it just a thin silicone that's easily brushable. Dries fast.
 
11/15/2017 11:22AM  
quote Northwoodsman: "butthead, great photos. I like the way you set it up where the front is pretty much perpendicular to the ground vs. more at an angle. Is the mesh front taunt enough to operate the zipper one-handed? Is that a snake hanging between the two ropes on the left in the first picture?"


No snake there! As pictured one handed zipper function is questionable. That is addressed in actual setup.

This was at Fall Lake Campground after a very wet trip.

As for the hole patch Silnet sealer is thick enough to glue a nylon patch over the hole and seal it. Better yet apply a patch to each side with silnet, forming a patch/lean sandwich at the hole.

butthead
 
QueticoMike
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11/16/2017 09:55AM  
How much does this setup weigh?
 
campnfish
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11/16/2017 11:50AM  
Lean 3, no netting, im guessing Butthead's setup is lighter as its a lean 1+.

 
11/16/2017 12:20PM  
quote campnfish: "Lean 3, no netting, im guessing Butthead's setup is lighter as its a lean 1+.

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Not quite but, this is rigged with ridge and real lines Figure 9's and mini biners.
All up but without stakes.



butthead
 
11/16/2017 01:03PM  
I like the idea of turning the front corners in.
 
11/16/2017 01:05PM  
quote butthead: "
quote campnfish: "Lean 3, no netting, im guessing Butthead's setup is lighter as its a lean 1+.


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Not quite but, this is rigged with ridge and real lines Figure 9's and mini biners.
All up but without stakes.



butthead"


I haven't weighed mine, but it's light in relation to the space, although not as light as one of the solo "coffin" tents.
Does that include the floor, butthead?
 
11/16/2017 02:40PM  
Just Lean 1+ 30 ft ridge cord with mini biners at loops and Figure 9's at ends, 30 ft. cord for back tieups.
Not included, I use a solo footprint under my sleeping bag, about a dozen MSR Groundhog stakes.

Yes my coffin sized solo tents are lighter and smaller packages, BSI Chinook and BA Fly Creek Platinum. But the Lean will sleep 3 in a pinch, has room to sit and read and cook under shelter if need be.

butthead
 
QueticoMike
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11/17/2017 09:16AM  
Thanks for the input on the weight.
 
11/17/2017 09:21AM  
quote QueticoMike: "Thanks for the input on the weight."


Note also that a lot of people do not take a tarp when they use a Lean as it has room to sit, read, cook as butthead said. Some people also use one instead of a tarp, but not as a shelter for sleeping.
 
11/17/2017 09:24AM  
butthead-

I think I remember you had a bathtub floor like is often used in floorless shelters . . . ?
 
11/17/2017 02:13PM  
quote boonie: "butthead-


I think I remember you had a bathtub floor like is often used in floorless shelters . . . ?"


GoLite Shangri La floor_ now discontinued.

If I need to replace it, Bear Paw floors currently made and custom ordered to size.

butthead
 
12/05/2017 07:32PM  
I'm getting a lean 3 with footprint for Christmas. We will be using it as our main family tent. We went to look at the lean 3 at Dan's house and he showed us lots of ways to set it up. I'll take bunch of pics next camping season.
 
DrBobDerrig
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12/13/2017 12:26PM  
I use my Lean 3 as a tarp a LOT...I bought some of those poles CCS sells at Canoecopia and bring them along in case I am missing a tree. If the weather is crappy I bring the sides down and close it up.... It is a lot of fun to have.

dr bob
 
wifishncanoe
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12/21/2017 04:57PM  


A couple rainy day set-up photos. Both of these pics it rained all day with some heavy down pours. The last photo is just showing a versatile set-up at a site without many trees and on a nice warm dry night. We just folded the awning back over the top and staked out the lines.
 
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