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DeuceCoop
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11/17/2017 04:46PM
Thought y'all might enjoy a slightly different kind of trip report. Come down and join me on one!
Eleven Point Trip Report
 
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TomT
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11/17/2017 05:12PM
Nice! I did a 2 day trip way back in 1987 with my girlfriend now wife. Beautiful river and I also remember the two lane winding roads in the area.

Your pics are real nice. I remember the gravel bars. I'd love to go back.
11/17/2017 05:34PM
Thanks, nice report.
ozarkpaddler
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11/17/2017 06:10PM
Nice trip report, Luke, wish I could have joined you! As for Richard's his wife has been quite ill, I'll not say more to afford them their privacy. But Huffstedler's has been good for us the last few years. As for the changes in the river, Hall's Bay looked pretty benign? Looks like it's going the way of Mary Decker Shoal? Mary Decker is the 2nd picture you have. I can remember when those rocks were 5-6' out of the water at a higher water level. Over the decades, that run has silted in and the drop is barely noticeable. Here's a pic of Hall's Bay from a couple years ago; there's much more water going through:
DrBobDerrig
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11/18/2017 05:17PM
we have done day trips on the current river for about a week 3 times in the past during October....we stay at Pulltite with the other OZARK PADDLER ( Marty K) A great time to go...cooler, no bugs, no crowds..just a great river

dr bob
DeuceCoop
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11/20/2017 08:17AM
quote ozarkpaddler: " Nice trip report, Luke, wish I could have joined you! As for Richard's his wife has been quite ill, I'll not say more to afford them their privacy. But Huffstedler's has been good for us the last few years. As for the changes in the river, Hall's Bay looked pretty benign? Looks like it's going the way of Mary Decker Shoal? Mary Decker is the 2nd picture you have. I can remember when those rocks were 5-6' out of the water at a higher water level. Over the decades, that run has silted in and the drop is barely noticeable. Here's a pic of Hall's Bay from a couple years ago; there's much more water going through:
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Terry, as I understand it Richard finally lost his wife but I could be wrong as I'm certainly not a local. I too hate that you couldn't join us, and Amber asks about you every time we make plans to head that way. Next time!
DeuceCoop
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11/20/2017 08:33AM
quote DrBobDerrig: "we have done day trips on the current river for about a week 3 times in the past during October....we stay at Pulltite with the other OZARK PADDLER ( Marty K) A great time to go...cooler, no bugs, no crowds..just a great river


dr bob"


I haven't met Marty. I have a good friend who's spent quite a bit of time with him in years past. You've probably met him.
QueticoMike
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11/20/2017 09:15AM
Good report!
ozarkpaddler
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11/20/2017 11:35AM
quote DeuceCoop: "quote ozarkpaddler: " Nice trip report, Luke, wish I could have joined you! As for Richard's his wife has been quite ill, I'll not say more to afford them their privacy. But Huffstedler's has been good for us the last few years. As for the changes in the river, Hall's Bay looked pretty benign? Looks like it's going the way of Mary Decker Shoal? Mary Decker is the 2nd picture you have. I can remember when those rocks were 5-6' out of the water at a higher water level. Over the decades, that run has silted in and the drop is barely noticeable. Here's a pic of Hall's Bay from a couple years ago; there's much more water going through:
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Terry, as I understand it Richard finally lost his wife but I could be wrong as I'm certainly not a local. I too hate that you couldn't join us, and Amber asks about you every time we make plans to head that way. Next time!"


She's a "Sweetheart," I enjoyed her company too! Next time, I'm going to call in sick or something and make it happen (LOL)!

TomT
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11/20/2017 06:25PM
This is from my 1987 trip on the Eleven Point. Just a great time on a beautiful river.

scat
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11/20/2017 06:43PM
Very nice. I have fond memories of the mighty Eleven Point River. After my senior year of high school, this would be 1979, I went on a seven or eight day canoe trip on the Eleven Point. This was an Outward Bound led trip, and it was minimalist in nature. It was led by a hippie couple, and there was no toilet paper, they gave you one spoon, stuff like that. I remember us complaining, saying, I'm sick of eating this bird food. Granola stuff. We started in Missouri. Where we put in was literally where the river seemed to start. There was this huge spring shooting out of the ground, like fifty yards across, and shooting out of the ground twenty feet high, and it's like, wow, there is a river! Amazing. We put in just down stream of that natural phenomenon and as soon as my buddy put a foot in the boat, we and all our gear got soaking wet. This was a portend of things to come. I think our gear was soaked the entire trip. We meandered into Arkansas, the rapids becoming more difficult as we went. We did some spelunking, which was cool. The Outward Bound couple had nightly talks around the campfire about feelings and such. Me and my buddy weren't really into that. Things rolled along and in one rapid we were lead canoe, we usually were I think, me and my partner took a middle route, and in a boulder stretch, got turned too much sideways in heavy current and hit a rock broadside. I can still see Coop turn sideways letting all the water in the boat. It was his fault, for sure, I was just steering. If he was paddling harder... Not to mention he has the sense of balance of Humpty Dumpty. I pulled my feet up just as the canoe curled around the rock. And it kept curling. It goes in lurches, crunching. Then it stops and all you hear is the water. And you're standing on a rock. In the middle of a stretch of rough rapids. Everyone else took the outside route to the left. We had to throw our stuff downstream to the other boats while standing on rocks in pounding current. I will never forget, I took my boots, they were just work boots but I had them for a while, out of the bottom of the twisted canoe, and threw them downstream, and as soon as they left my hand, I was like, NO!, but too late, gone forever. Down they went. With water rushing all around, we jumped in the river and had to go three man in two boats for the last two days of the trip. Man, that was fun. There are some other stories associated with this trip, but it's just kids stuff. I like the Eleven Point. I have done some research on possible trips. Who knows, I could wrap another boat around a rock someday. Cheers.
OneMatch
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11/20/2017 08:27PM
A great read, Deuce! You have a gift with the written word!

I'm curious as to why you chose a raft instead of a canoe for this trip. Was it in anticipation of low water? Would a canoe have fared okay this time of year?

ozarkpaddler
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11/20/2017 11:58PM
quote scat: "Very nice. I have fond memories of the mighty Eleven Point River. After my senior year of high school, this would be 1979, I went on a seven or eight day canoe trip on the Eleven Point. This was an Outward Bound led trip, and it was minimalist in nature. It was led by a hippie couple, and there was no toilet paper, they gave you one spoon, stuff like that. I remember us complaining, saying, I'm sick of eating this bird food. Granola stuff. We started in Missouri. Where we put in was literally where the river seemed to start. There was this huge spring shooting out of the ground, like fifty yards across, and shooting out of the ground twenty feet high, and it's like, wow, there is a river! Amazing. We put in just down stream of that natural phenomenon and as soon as my buddy put a foot in the boat, we and all our gear got soaking wet. This was a portend of things to come. I think our gear was soaked the entire trip. We meandered into Arkansas, the rapids becoming more difficult as we went. We did some spelunking, which was cool. The Outward Bound couple had nightly talks around the campfire about feelings and such. Me and my buddy weren't really into that. Things rolled along and in one rapid we were lead canoe, we usually were I think, me and my partner took a middle route, and in a boulder stretch, got turned too much sideways in heavy current and hit a rock broadside. I can still see Coop turn sideways letting all the water in the boat. It was his fault, for sure, I was just steering. If he was paddling harder... Not to mention he has the sense of balance of Humpty Dumpty. I pulled my feet up just as the canoe curled around the rock. And it kept curling. It goes in lurches, crunching. Then it stops and all you hear is the water. And you're standing on a rock. In the middle of a stretch of rough rapids. Everyone else took the outside route to the left. We had to throw our stuff downstream to the other boats while standing on rocks in pounding current. I will never forget, I took my boots, they were just work boots but I had them for a while, out of the bottom of the twisted canoe, and threw them downstream, and as soon as they left my hand, I was like, NO!, but too late, gone forever. Down they went. With water rushing all around, we jumped in the river and had to go three man in two boats for the last two days of the trip. Man, that was fun. There are some other stories associated with this trip, but it's just kids stuff. I like the Eleven Point. I have done some research on possible trips. Who knows, I could wrap another boat around a rock someday. Cheers."

Scat, your put in sounds like you have to be talking about Greer Spring? It's really something. And I bet the place you had your "Carnage" was Mary Decker Shoal? It was quite impressive back in the '70's-'80's, when I first started paddling there. But in the '90's, it seemed to begin silting in more and more each year. Not much of a drop, now.

I've never paddled all the way to Arkansas, but we once paddled down to Hwy 143, another 10 miles below Riverton. It's a nice river and I'm fortunate to have it so close.
DeuceCoop
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11/21/2017 08:26AM
quote OneMatch: "A great read, Deuce! You have a gift with the written word!


I'm curious as to why you chose a raft instead of a canoe for this trip. Was it in anticipation of low water? Would a canoe have fared okay this time of year?


"


Thank you for the kind words! I don't even have a tandem canoe any more. It just never got used so I sold it. I have two solo boats, an Esquif Vertige and a Dagger Prophet. Both WW canoes but either would be fine on the Eleven Point as would a tandem canoe, even at that level. I just usually grab the raft for multi-day trips. In most cases I'm taking a non-boater or two along and I always want them to feel safe and comfortable, not to mention the fact that Blue Steel can carry considerably more gear and consumables than we could ever possibly need. I haven't begun exposing Amber to canoes yet but that's about to change, then I'll have to get a tandem or another solo so when she goes on WW trips with Little Deuce and me we can leave Blue Steel at home.
DeuceCoop
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11/21/2017 08:41AM
quote TomT: " This is from my 1987 trip on the Eleven Point. Just a great time on a beautiful river.


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Great pic! You'd have to leave that beer in the truck now. Fortunately these days we have an abundance of excellent canned choices.
DeuceCoop
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11/21/2017 08:44AM
quote scat: "Very nice. I have fond memories of the mighty Eleven Point River. After my senior year of high school, this would be 1979, I went on a seven or eight day canoe trip on the Eleven Point. This was an Outward Bound led trip, and it was minimalist in nature. It was led by a hippie couple, and there was no toilet paper, they gave you one spoon, stuff like that. I remember us complaining, saying, I'm sick of eating this bird food. Granola stuff. We started in Missouri. Where we put in was literally where the river seemed to start. There was this huge spring shooting out of the ground, like fifty yards across, and shooting out of the ground twenty feet high, and it's like, wow, there is a river! Amazing. We put in just down stream of that natural phenomenon and as soon as my buddy put a foot in the boat, we and all our gear got soaking wet. This was a portend of things to come. I think our gear was soaked the entire trip. We meandered into Arkansas, the rapids becoming more difficult as we went. We did some spelunking, which was cool. The Outward Bound couple had nightly talks around the campfire about feelings and such. Me and my buddy weren't really into that. Things rolled along and in one rapid we were lead canoe, we usually were I think, me and my partner took a middle route, and in a boulder stretch, got turned too much sideways in heavy current and hit a rock broadside. I can still see Coop turn sideways letting all the water in the boat. It was his fault, for sure, I was just steering. If he was paddling harder... Not to mention he has the sense of balance of Humpty Dumpty. I pulled my feet up just as the canoe curled around the rock. And it kept curling. It goes in lurches, crunching. Then it stops and all you hear is the water. And you're standing on a rock. In the middle of a stretch of rough rapids. Everyone else took the outside route to the left. We had to throw our stuff downstream to the other boats while standing on rocks in pounding current. I will never forget, I took my boots, they were just work boots but I had them for a while, out of the bottom of the twisted canoe, and threw them downstream, and as soon as they left my hand, I was like, NO!, but too late, gone forever. Down they went. With water rushing all around, we jumped in the river and had to go three man in two boats for the last two days of the trip. Man, that was fun. There are some other stories associated with this trip, but it's just kids stuff. I like the Eleven Point. I have done some research on possible trips. Who knows, I could wrap another boat around a rock someday. Cheers."

Scat, that is hilarious! Loved your tale. I think you need to get down here some time and let Terry and me take you out for another crack at it. He has lots of canoes and I'm sure he'd be happy to let you wrap one.
DeuceCoop
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11/21/2017 09:05AM
Halls Bay Chute at normal level.
ozarkpaddler
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11/21/2017 09:11AM
quote DeuceCoop: "quote scat: "Very nice. I have fond memories of the mighty Eleven Point River. After my senior year of high school, this would be 1979, I went on a seven or eight day canoe trip on the Eleven Point. This was an Outward Bound led trip, and it was minimalist in nature. It was led by a hippie couple, and there was no toilet paper, they gave you one spoon, stuff like that. I remember us complaining, saying, I'm sick of eating this bird food. Granola stuff. We started in Missouri. Where we put in was literally where the river seemed to start. There was this huge spring shooting out of the ground, like fifty yards across, and shooting out of the ground twenty feet high, and it's like, wow, there is a river! Amazing. We put in just down stream of that natural phenomenon and as soon as my buddy put a foot in the boat, we and all our gear got soaking wet. This was a portend of things to come. I think our gear was soaked the entire trip. We meandered into Arkansas, the rapids becoming more difficult as we went. We did some spelunking, which was cool. The Outward Bound couple had nightly talks around the campfire about feelings and such. Me and my buddy weren't really into that. Things rolled along and in one rapid we were lead canoe, we usually were I think, me and my partner took a middle route, and in a boulder stretch, got turned too much sideways in heavy current and hit a rock broadside. I can still see Coop turn sideways letting all the water in the boat. It was his fault, for sure, I was just steering. If he was paddling harder... Not to mention he has the sense of balance of Humpty Dumpty. I pulled my feet up just as the canoe curled around the rock. And it kept curling. It goes in lurches, crunching. Then it stops and all you hear is the water. And you're standing on a rock. In the middle of a stretch of rough rapids. Everyone else took the outside route to the left. We had to throw our stuff downstream to the other boats while standing on rocks in pounding current. I will never forget, I took my boots, they were just work boots but I had them for a while, out of the bottom of the twisted canoe, and threw them downstream, and as soon as they left my hand, I was like, NO!, but too late, gone forever. Down they went. With water rushing all around, we jumped in the river and had to go three man in two boats for the last two days of the trip. Man, that was fun. There are some other stories associated with this trip, but it's just kids stuff. I like the Eleven Point. I have done some research on possible trips. Who knows, I could wrap another boat around a rock someday. Cheers."


Scat, that is hilarious! Loved your tale. I think you need to get down here some time and let Terry and me take you out for another crack at it. He has lots of canoes and I'm sure he'd be happy to let you wrap one. "


I'd be happy to lend you a boat, Scat!
scat
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11/21/2017 05:40PM
Hey man, I'm going to take you up on that, seriously. I know where to find you. I love the Eleven Point. That is a serious wilderness river. Those are the types of trips you never forget.

You may have noticed I called my partner on that trip Coop. For Tom Cooper. He was my best friend in high school and beyond. Thought I'd mention it cuz you have Coop in your screen name. When the Outward Bound hippie couple group leaders had their nightly pow wow around the campfire, trying to get the group to express their feelings or some such, a fair share of the guys would bitch about their partners, 'I got really bummed out when Gerard yelled at me when our canoe got pinned against that log...' Ok, well let's work it out... Crap like that. Me and Coop were best buddies. We just rolled our eyes and snickered and would never say a word if they dared to ask. We were cocky and almost always took lead through a rapids. In hindsight this may have been why that canoe got bent. But me and Coop never had any doubt. We were best buddies. I miss that maniac.
scat
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11/21/2017 07:15PM
It's funny how when you sit a bit how details slowly come back. I remember the caves being really cool. Ever go in a cavern or two deep in a cave and then douse all the lights. You can't even see a millimeter in front of your eyes. Me and Coop were like tunnel rats, burrowing through channels barely wide enough to fit your body and not knowing what is on the other side, if anything. That was creepy. I think I remember having to back out of the last one. Hardly able to move. We were basically on our own in the caves.
I remember at the end of one spelunking adventure we were close to the entrance, now the exit of the cave. I can see this now clearly. One guy in our group was always bitching, complaining about this or that the entire trip. And he had a jerk face like Jay Cutler that was just asking to get punched. I told him if he didn't shut up I was going to jack him. He opened his pouty lips and bam, down he went. He slithered around in the rocks till we left. I kind of felt bad about it and being an Outward Bound led trip, they had been preaching teamwork and togetherness so I confessed to the school leader on the trip. He told me not to worry about it so that was the end of that. Those are my favorite stories about spelunking along the Eleven Point River in the glorious Ozarks. Cheers.
DrBobDerrig
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11/21/2017 09:44PM
quote DeuceCoop: "quote DrBobDerrig: "we have done day trips on the current river for about a week 3 times in the past during October....we stay at Pulltite with the other OZARK PADDLER ( Marty K) A great time to go...cooler, no bugs, no crowds..just a great river



dr bob"



I haven't met Marty. I have a good friend who's spent quite a bit of time with him in years past. You've probably met him. "


He has been a speaker at canoecopia as long as I can remember. he is a BIG guy..... at one of his first cooking demos he had a handout....at the top was the quote "Never trust a skinny Chef"

:-)
dr bob
ozarkpaddler
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11/21/2017 11:58PM
quote scat: "nightly pow wow around the campfire, trying to get the group to express their feelings ."

Your story reminds me of my first trip to the BWCAW. I'd planned a trip with my brother and he canceled a month before the trip. About that time, a mutual friend told me about 3 guys looking for a 4th for their trip, so we hooked up for the trip, my first BWCAW trip. Two of the guys were ok, but one was a Psychologist.
The psychologist nightly replayed your conversations then picked them apart and analyzed them. I wasn't the only one who found that trait annoying, because he'd been married and divorced a few times (LOL)! On the last night of the trip, I remember sitting there looking at the fire on Snipe Lake and saying something about missing my fiance' (who's now my wife of 33 years). He said something like "I can't understand how you could possibly "Miss" anyone when you are in the wilderness? You should be completely fulfilled by the wilderness experience!" I just sighed and thought "Maybe that's why you can't sustain a marriage!"

Scat, I think I'll add "Hippie Outward Bound counselors" to Psychologists and Psychiatrists on my "Do not trip with" list (LOL)?
 
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