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Wick
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11/25/2017 05:59PM  
I weigh 251lb, and loosing! I cannot find a weight for the ultra landing pad to decide if it is too big or heavy to pack in a canoe with other gear. Anyone use one?

The wife is quite a bit lighter. Should i buy her the regular 3 inch thick, and not the ultra 4 inch?

Do they roll up small?
 
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yellowcanoe
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11/25/2017 06:42PM  
I cant find a weight for it. Looks incredibly bulky. No I dont use it
I use a Sea to Summit Comfort Insulated Deluxe Mat here

Our other mat is by Exped.
 
Wick
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11/25/2017 07:33PM  
Yes, it is bulky. I am 62 now and need something soft to sleep on. I have slept on many air mattresses in my life. I have had more miserable nights on them then i can count. I never had one that would stay up all night after they were not brand new.
 
11/26/2017 01:34PM  
I do not own nor have seen any, but ad info indicates 9 to 10 pound shipping weight, does not pack very small, and extra air can not be added to make it inflate fast of make it firmer. YouTube AIRE Landing Pad
What inflatable mattress have you used?
I have lots of use (years of frequent camping) between Big Agnes and Exped inflatables and am a satisfied customer.
I'm also over 66 years and 200 pounds, but vastly prefer my Exped Down Mat 5s.
Packs smaller than a can of Quaker Oats weighs less than 2 pounds and I can adjust the firmness as needed.

butthead
 
Wick
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11/26/2017 03:41PM  
quote butthead:
What inflatable mattress have you used?


butthead"


Wallmart, target, sears, coleman type,,those kind of airmattresses,,never from a store like REI or similar. I was at REI today looking at them, and was reminded how much they felt like all the others i have used. I keep thinking even if the air goes away, the foam would help me make it thru the night.

I am concerned with the bulk since we started adding everything up that we want to carry while browsing REI. Right now, all we have are the canoes, and the desire to go to the BWCA before i get too old!
 
11/26/2017 03:58PM  
Wick, I can't really comment on other mattresses but have owned multiple Big Agnes Insulated Air Cores, and currently use Expeds' Down 9 20x72 inch and Down 5s 20x60 inch. I normal get over 150 nites sleeping on an inflatable before any leakage, even then no complete in field failures and I do sleep outside very often and in all seasons. There is a huge difference between backpacking mattresses and the models you list.
Also a large variety of sizes and styles exist form very compact 3/4 length to long and extra wide, various thickness and insulation. I heartily recomend an insulated pad even in summer., non insulated allow air convection cooling and a cold nite. You do not have to buy at REI but they are a great place to see different makes and models.

butthead
 
yellowcanoe
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11/27/2017 08:22AM  
What you can't see is the innards. And a backpacking pad while it looks like any other air mattress is not the same inside
They don't bounce miserably; have a tough hide and are usually insulated. Check out the R value.. above 5 is OK for summer camping. They won't cold spot out.
The newer ones have a backup system if one side leaks. ( and they all come with a repair kit).

Thermarest makes foam sleeping pads but at 71 I got too old for mine.
The airmattress whether it be Exped Sea to Summit or Big Agnes or the Thermarest models are way more comfy.
 
Wick
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11/27/2017 09:52AM  
Well, if i take the chance these are good quality airmattress and won't go flat, i would pick the exped synmat mega 12. 75 denier, r value 5.3, wide and thick.

I think i will order one unless you guys tell me something bad about that one.

It is a lot smaller when packed, so that is a bonus.

 
DeuceCoop
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11/27/2017 11:53AM  
I have two Landing Pads (not the Ultra version). They are top notch and very comfy, but while they do roll up I'd never consider portaging one; far too large and bulky and fairly heavy. They're designed for raft (built burly to stand up to the rigors of western rivers) and car camping but I have canoe camped with one. Rather than rolling it I just laid it flat in the bottom of the boat. That works well, but my float camping is generally confined to gravel bars and as such doesn't require any portaging.
 
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