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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Gear Forum Stuff or roll? |
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01/22/2018 05:37PM
I have done both. I currently roll my tent around the poles, but have stuffed others before and just packed the poles in their bag separately. It's six of one, a half dozen of the other.
I stuff the sleeping bag and clothes, roll the sleeping pad. Tarp is just stuffed (sort of) in the ridgeline bag.
I stuff the sleeping bag and clothes, roll the sleeping pad. Tarp is just stuffed (sort of) in the ridgeline bag.
01/22/2018 05:37PM
We stuff our sleeping bags. For our tents though we fold and roll them. They are never folded the same way. Plus it’s a bit easier on the zippers. I’ve never had problems with ruining a tent due to folding and rolling it. They come that way from the manufacturers.
"Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We shall get there someday.” ~A.A. Milne
01/22/2018 05:42PM
boonie: "I have done both. I currently roll my tent around the poles, but have stuffed others before and just packed the poles in their bag separately. It's six of one, a half dozen of the other.
I stuff the sleeping bag and clothes, roll the sleeping pad. Tarp is just stuffed (sort of) in the ridgeline bag."
I did see that video where they showed just stuffing the ccs tarp in the bag.
01/22/2018 07:01PM
A CCS tarp and a tent are very different. The tarp doesn't have zippers, poles or mesh. Zippers break, poles put holes in things, and mesh tears easy. I purchased a CCS pole bag to keep my poles and stakes in. It's way more durable than what comes with your tent and will protect your tent better. It's very light. Just don't forget your poles at home.
01/22/2018 07:24PM
I use to be a roller and then I became a stuffer. After only a couple years of stuffing the seams started failing on my tent and fly. I don't know if it had anything to do with stuffing, but it seams to me that by rolling your seams stay straighter and are maybe less apt to crack. Maybe. Who knows.
serenity now
01/22/2018 07:38PM
Have done both but mostly roll. Fast mode: I stuff tent in its bag, tarp in its bag and sleep bag, too, when I have an impulse to break camp and move on to another lake or site. (usually late in the day) The air mat always gets rolled neatly. I discovered I can break camp really, really fast that way--in case I ever need to do so. It's good to know I can cut the time in half if need be. What helps is I keep a tidy campsite. My stuff is never scattered about.
“If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Sir Isaac Newton
01/22/2018 08:07PM
Coming from a backpacking approach I stuff tents, sleeping bags and tarp into compression stuff sacks. Unless it is a 0 degree bag, I can get all three (plus sleeping pad) into the bottom section of my backpack.
Tent poles in a separate bag that is usually attached to the outside of the pack.
I have done this for years and never had a problem with the tents. My old Sierra Designs tent was good for 17 years. Current MSR Hubba Hubba went into service in the summer of 2012 and has well over 100 nights in it. Still looks new.
Tent poles in a separate bag that is usually attached to the outside of the pack.
I have done this for years and never had a problem with the tents. My old Sierra Designs tent was good for 17 years. Current MSR Hubba Hubba went into service in the summer of 2012 and has well over 100 nights in it. Still looks new.
01/22/2018 10:42PM
After rolling for years, I converted to a "Stuffer." Don't notice a difference except it's quicker. As for the "Poles" question, you just put poles in first, then "Stuff" around them.
"Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." Mark Twain
01/22/2018 10:53PM
Backpacking tents, I stuff. Generally put the fly in, then some of the tent, then slide the poles down the side, then stuff the rest of the tent and follow with the ground cloth.
Big tents I usually fold/roll as its much easier. I've been told, but only seen it a couple of times that if your not careful folding and fold it in the same spot all the time, the material and waterproofing wears.
Big tents I usually fold/roll as its much easier. I've been told, but only seen it a couple of times that if your not careful folding and fold it in the same spot all the time, the material and waterproofing wears.
01/22/2018 11:27PM
Current tent has some built in support rods and so needs to be folded and rolled. This also makes it easier to take it out and setup without getting the interior wet during rain. That’s all for this particular tent.
Sleeping bag and tarp are stuffed.
Sleeping bag and tarp are stuffed.
01/23/2018 01:16AM
I stuff. Many years ago (maybe 20+) , I ran across a discussion of this topic and the argument was made that when you fold/roll a tent, you tend to produce a "fold" in approximately the same places each time you put a tent away. Over the course of time, that produces a stress point in that area, which could ultimately produce an area where water could infiltrate. I've been stuffing ever sense (with no infiltration issues at all). The idea is that when you stuff, you create any folds/creases in different spots, thereby "distributing" the stress points with each packing.
Also, as indicated in previous posts, it takes less time to pack a tent by stuffing than by folding. My tents tend to come with a pole & stake bag. Those are placed in the stuff sack first and the fly, tent, and ground cloth are packed in around them (in that order unless I'm packing up wet ... then the fly is normally packed up separately to minimize water transfer to the tent body.
dd
Also, as indicated in previous posts, it takes less time to pack a tent by stuffing than by folding. My tents tend to come with a pole & stake bag. Those are placed in the stuff sack first and the fly, tent, and ground cloth are packed in around them (in that order unless I'm packing up wet ... then the fly is normally packed up separately to minimize water transfer to the tent body.
dd
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01/23/2018 07:10AM
andym: "Current tent has some built in support rods and so needs to be folded and rolled. This also makes it easier to take it out and setup without getting the interior wet during rain. That’s all for this particular tent.
Sleeping bag and tarp are stuffed. "
Mine also has support rods and the fly and body are attached - reasons for switching from stuffing to rolling.
01/23/2018 07:48AM
When I am out using my tent, I stuff - it is much quicker when packing up each day. When I put it away, I roll it. I know it is recommended to always stuff so you don't get crease wear, but I like a nice tidy roll when I put it away.
"Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit."
01/23/2018 10:36AM
I first heard this idea from Cliff Jacobsen at copia and found stuffing works way decent. My tents with plastic bottoms like a coleman I use at times doesn't stuff decent at all so I roll it. I have been stuffing my CCS lean 3 since I bought it and don's have any problems doing it so far. Sleeping bags fit better in a Duluth pack as well. So JUST STUFF IT !!!
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Dr Bob
01/27/2018 09:00PM
I don't roll and I kind of don't stuff either. Most of the time my tent is damp from from due or overnight rain so I drop the loose body of the tent in a large trash bag in the top of my pack after I seal up the plastic pack liner in my personal pack. It flattens out like a pancake and takes very little room.
The poles go in their own bag upright on the outside of the packliner but on the inside of the pack to prevent any punctures in the packliner. My partner carries the fly to the tent in the same manner.
This method also works if one person carries the full tent.
UP Boy
The poles go in their own bag upright on the outside of the packliner but on the inside of the pack to prevent any punctures in the packliner. My partner carries the fly to the tent in the same manner.
This method also works if one person carries the full tent.
UP Boy
I can only hope that when I die, my wife does not sell my fishing equipment for what I told her I paid for it
01/27/2018 09:00PM
I don't roll and I kind of don't stuff either. Most of the time my tent is damp from from due or overnight rain so I drop the loose body of the tent in a large trash bag in the top of my pack after I seal up the plastic pack liner in my personal pack. It flattens out like a pancake and takes very little room.
The poles go in their own bag upright on the outside of the packliner but on the inside of the pack to prevent any punctures in the packliner. My partner carries the fly to the tent in the same manner.
This method also works if one person carries the full tent.
UP Boy
The poles go in their own bag upright on the outside of the packliner but on the inside of the pack to prevent any punctures in the packliner. My partner carries the fly to the tent in the same manner.
This method also works if one person carries the full tent.
UP Boy
I can only hope that when I die, my wife does not sell my fishing equipment for what I told her I paid for it
01/28/2018 06:13AM
Bannock: "I start off rolled. Then after the first night, because the tent is usually wet because of rain/dew, I stuff. But not into the stuff sack, but rather into the pack as one of the last items outside of the pack liner."
I kind of imagined this happening with my stuff. Start off all neat and organized,,then cram it all in the pack to go to the next campsite. My wife and i had a conversation about it, since she knows my housekeeping habits. The conversation was sort of 1 sided, as she is the person that follows me around picking up at home, so there was no bull****ing her about it.
I am very happy to learn my style of suitcase packing is an acceptable way to do it, and will inform my woman of the plan. I will look like i know what i am doing!
01/31/2018 03:01PM
Sleeping bags & tarps get stuffed. The tent is usually rolled in a fashion similar to how it came from the factory.
You'll get people that say they've rolled a tent for 20 years and it still performs as new, just like you'll get people that say they always stuff with the same result. I think keeping the interior clean when using & especially before packing it up goes a long way. Grit is hard on urethane coated fabric.
You'll get people that say they've rolled a tent for 20 years and it still performs as new, just like you'll get people that say they always stuff with the same result. I think keeping the interior clean when using & especially before packing it up goes a long way. Grit is hard on urethane coated fabric.
When a man is part of his canoe, he is part of all that canoes have ever known. - Sigurd F. Olson, "The Singing Wilderness"
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