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DontPanic
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02/18/2018 08:55PM
I know there are a lot of people on here with CCS knowledge. I’m looking for a tarp. What is the difference in the 1.1 oz and 1.9 oz? The website is not very clear.

For informational purposes I will generally be going to the BWCA with a group of 4.
 
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mgraber
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02/18/2018 09:10PM
From heaviest to lightest weight.
1.9 urethane coated(most standard tarps) = 5# tear strength
1.9 silicone=15 # tear strength(CCS)
1.1 silicone=12.5 #tear strength(CCS)
DontPanic
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02/18/2018 09:44PM
mgraber: "From heaviest to lightest weight.
1.9 urethane coated(most standard tarps) = 5# tear strength
1.9 silicone=15 # tear strength(CCS)
1.1 silicone=12.5 #tear strength(CCS)"

Recommendation?
mgraber
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02/18/2018 09:45PM
For a group of four I wouldn't go smaller than 10 by 12. Above that ,it really depends on what you can afford and how much weight matters to you. In that size, the 1.1 would save almost a full pound, but cost 80.00 more. Be sure to consider getting the ridgeline stuff sack, it is worth every penny. There is a video on the CCS site and Youtube that shows a great way to have it all set up for quick and easy set up with the stuff sack. It's really a great system. I have the 1.1 because I am an ounce counter. You cannot go wrong with either. Some have mentioned that the 1.9 shades the sun better. Weight does add up though. If you really spend a lot of time under your tarp and like to spread out with chairs and stuff you might consider going up a size or two, but 4 can get pretty comfy under a 10 by 12, especially if it's mostly for foul weather and you move from site to site a lot. Both are VERY strong and VERY well made.
DontPanic
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02/18/2018 10:06PM
Thanks
Wick
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02/19/2018 04:50AM
I just unpacked my new 10x14 CCS tarp. It is definitely a piece of equipment, not like the fancy Farm and Fleet tarp I imagined when I first investigated them on this forum. I am happy I spent the money. Buy extra rope and some light tent pegs. You will need to learn at least three different knots.

I agree on the ridgeline bag. Go watch the video on the website and you will see the advantages of that.

I got the lighter version, 1.1 because I need to save weight to carry ice...
TipsyPaddler
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02/19/2018 04:57AM
I use a 1.1 oz CCS 10 x 12 tarp with the ridgeline sack.
I use it with groups of 1-4 people. Love it!
mjmkjun
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02/19/2018 05:26AM
Wick: "I just unpacked my new 10x14 CCS tarp. It is definetly a piece of equipment, not like the fancy farm and fleet tarp i imagined when i first investigated them on this forum. I am happy i spent the money. Buy extra rope and some light tent pegs. You will need to learn at least 3 different knots.


I agree on the ridgeline bag. Go watch the video on the website and you will see the advantages of that.


I got the lighter version, 1.1 because i need to save weight to carry ice,,,,,,"

LOL on the ice thing. (yes, I know you are serious.) Wait till you set up the CCS tarp when you make camp......you will appreciate it more then. A work of practical art.
I have a two ccs tarps in 1.9 oz. because I'm not an ounce counter. I purchased a 10 x 12 first; then a 10 x 14 on a sweet deal in the 'Items for Sale' on this site. The extra two feet is appreciated as I like to have a windbreak at my back + overhead coverage. It is overkill for a soloist but I have plenty coverage to wait out the rains. My knowledge of knots is lame so I use Nite Ize Figure-9 Rope Tighteners, as well. ;-)
Wick
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02/19/2018 06:07AM
mjmkjun:

My knowledge of knots is lame so I use Nite Ize Figure-9 Rope Tighteners, as well. ;-)"


I have some of those too, and have thought of using them on the tarp. Do you have a rope attached to the loop on the tarp, or do you go directly to the tarp with the figure-9? I saw a pic somewhere lately that went to rope,,was that you?

We are practicing our knots.
cyclones30
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02/19/2018 07:30AM
I have a 10x12 in the 1.9 and we love it. Keeps gear dry, you dry, sun shade, etc. Speaking of sun, the lighter the color, the more sunlight is let thru.
mjmkjun
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02/19/2018 08:55AM
Wick: "mjmkjun:


My knowledge of knots is lame so I use Nite Ize Figure-9 Rope Tighteners, as well. ;-)"



I have some of those too, and have thought of using them on the tarp. Do you have a rope attached to the loop on the tarp, or do you go directly to the tarp with the figure-9? I saw a pic somewhere lately that went to rope,,was that you?


We are practicing our knots. "

Nope, wasn't my pic. I tie onto the tarp with a simple overhand knot (doubled) and use the Figure 9 on the tree end. (usually a tree trunk, branch or root) Setup is a breeze. Take down is as simple. Being soloist, I am rarely in a hurry so I enjoy playing with configurations & setups. Changing it here; tweaking it there. What else am I going to do now that I am proficient at setting-up camp. Read a book? (Not gonna happen.)
DrBobDg
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02/19/2018 09:35AM
I got lured into the CCS booth at canoecopia (not going to be an issue this year :-)) and bought a CCS Lean 3 shelter which I often use as a tarp as well. At another show I picked up a couple sets of collapsible poles in case a tree is missing. I leave a piece of cord as a ridgeline to make setup easier. Once you get some practice setting it up things go easier.
You can never bring enough cord for various configurations. I like it a lot and enjoy using it.

dr bob
02/19/2018 10:14AM
Wick: "mjmkjun:


My knowledge of knots is lame so I use Nite Ize Figure-9 Rope Tighteners, as well. ;-)"



I have some of those too, and have thought of using them on the tarp. Do you have a rope attached to the loop on the tarp, or do you go directly to the tarp with the figure-9? I saw a pic somewhere lately that went to rope,,was that you?


We are practicing our knots. "


When I switched to the pre-rigged tarp and ridgeline stuff sack last fall, it made set-up very simple with a couple of easy knots - the Siberian Hitch to anchor one end and the Trucker's Hitch to tighten the other. The guylines are attached to the side loops with bowlines. The tarp is suspended from the ridgeline except for the two ends which are attached to prussics with S-biners to tighten it after it is positioned where wanted. I have some figure-9's, but no longer use them for this.

To set up the tarp this way, you simply attach the end of the ridgeline that comes out the bottom of the stuff sack to a tree using the Siberian Hitch. The Siberian Hitch is quick to tie after you learn it, holds tight, and unties easily with a quick pull. The other end goes around the other tree and is tightened with the Trucker's Hitch and tied off. The tarp is slid along the ridgeline to wherever you want it positioned and the Prussics are slid out to tighten it. Then the side guys are staked out and tightened with half hitches, although Figure-9's could be used.

The stuff sack stays on the ridgeline and the process is basically reversed to take down.

I can't help you with the ice, but it shouldn't be too hard, especially if it is not unseasonably warm. If you plan to use it to cool your drinking water while traveling, you'll need to have it somewhere easily accessible vs. buried deep in a pack while traveling.
02/19/2018 10:33AM
To the OP, mgraber pretty well covered it - weight & price. I have a 10 x 14 in 1.1 and it's nice to have the extra size when you want the windbreak as mentioned and if you are getting the 1.1 ounce, the extra weight is pretty minimal - I think the 10 x 14 probably weighs 4 oz. more than a smaller one.
02/19/2018 01:25PM
Mine is a 10 x 12 in 1.9. I use the Ridgeline stuff sack and it's very handy.

I also use the figure 9 carabiners. I have 20 ft. lengths of line at each corner. When setting up, I run the lines around trees, make a loop in the line a few feet from the tree and clip the figure 9 carabiners onto the loops.

02/19/2018 02:45PM
TipsyPaddler: "I use a 1.1 oz CCS 10 x 12 tarp with the ridgeline sack.
I use it with groups of 1-4 people. Love it!"


These are generally less weight and provide good value for the money. I have a 1.9oz 10 x 10 and it weighs 2lbs. That's not a back breaker by any means, however I would love to shed that 1lb.
treehorn
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02/19/2018 03:42PM
I also use the figure 9 carabiners.

These things are the best!
02/20/2018 03:42AM
I have 2 10x12 CCS tarps one is the 1.9 oz. and the other is the 1.1 oz. The 1.1 seems to pack much smaller than the 1.9 which something you might want to consider. The 1.9 is green and the 1.1 is the yellow, I much prefer the yellow. FRED
GreyOwl
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02/20/2018 09:18AM
I have 2 CCS Tarps.

For when the party size is 1-2 people it’s a 10x10 1.1oz tarp. It’s highly likely I’ll be carrying it.

For when the party size is 4 or more, it’s a 15x15 1.9oz tarp. It’s highly likely someone else will be carrying it. LOL

If base camping with only a few portage’s both usually go. The small one to shelter a cooking area and gear storage. The large one to shelter a seating area.

Both are pre-rigged with the CCS ridge line stuff sacks.
 
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