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yogi59weedr
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03/21/2018 11:12PM  
I know it's a canoeing website, but does anybody have or own a Lund Fury 16 foot with 25 horse Mercury looking to buy a new one? Just curious if anybody had any knowledge of them.
 
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03/22/2018 05:00AM  
I do own one. I bought it to access all the 25 horse limit lakes up by the BWCA. It has been a great set up for me. I prefer the tiller model. Another great advantage is the ease of towing , and how easy it is to launch and load by yourself.
 
Arcola
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03/22/2018 05:51AM  
I've repaired hundreds of them, not because they fail, but because the owner failed.
One of the toughest boats you can buy.
 
mgraber
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03/22/2018 10:26PM  
Have a buddy with a 2014 model, but it has 30hp 2 stroke. Runs in the 25-27mph range loaded and is a really great performing bulltproof boat with a lot of floor space for the size. It handles rough water almost as well as my 17ft Lund. It is a side console. Great no frills mid size boat. IPS hulls are great.
 
missmolly
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03/23/2018 07:14AM  
I've owned a couple Lunds and would buy another in a New York minute. I also prefer tillers because consoles gobble space.
 
03/23/2018 10:43AM  
missmolly: "I've owned a couple Lunds and would buy another in a New York minute. I also prefer tillers because consoles gobble space. "

+1
 
yellowcanoe
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03/23/2018 01:00PM  
Id love an 18 foot Lund Alaskan
Not for lake use. For nearshore ocean use where waves can get up to four feet on a calm day.
 
ellahallely
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03/23/2018 05:20PM  
We have 2 lund boats, both tillers. Between the 2 boats they have seen about 100+ bwca trips, mostly Basswood. 1 has a false floor. Because of the extra weight of the floor I prefer the boat without the floor. If you don't ever plan on using portage wheels it might not matter to you. Both good, strong, stable, big water boats.
 
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03/23/2018 08:02PM  
I've owned a 2012 14' Fury, and currently own a 2017 16' Fury, both with the Mercury 25 HP 4-stroke tiller. What specifically are you curious about? Also have a 14' Lund WC with a 8 HP Mercury with a rock hopper...that's my winter beater and super skinny water boat...love that little beater! Wallee hit the nail on the head...Fury's are a joy to tow and even old bald guys like me can launch them easily solo. Haven't bought one in a New York minute yet, but I did buy one in New York Mills once;)
 
yogi59weedr
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03/24/2018 05:12PM  
I thought about a 14 and decided on a 16. Curious if the 25 was enough motor when a 40 is max. Can you load it with out getting your feet wet.
Probably not going to use postage wheels.. use the truck portage at prairie .
Maybe the rollbar portage into triangle..
Other than that just the motor lakes around and south of ely...
 
missmolly
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03/24/2018 07:47PM  
Congrats!
 
mgraber
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03/25/2018 11:52PM  
yogi59weedr: "I thought about a 14 and decided on a 16. Curious if the 25 was enough motor when a 40 is max. Can you load it with out getting your feet wet.
Probably not going to use postage wheels.. use the truck portage at prairie .
Maybe the rollbar portage into triangle..
Other than that just the motor lakes around and south of ely..."


Since you will be a little under powered you just need to be sure that you are propped right for maximum speed and planing ability. Pretty much every factory rigged boat is over propped which is not only hard on the motor, but also hurts performance. If you can put a tachometer on it, try to prop it to reach maximum rated rpm at the lightest weight it will ever carry. That is the ideal prop, as it will usually still be in the operating range when loaded (or as close as is possible), but will not be capable of over speed. It is important to be in the rated rpm range when full throttle to avoid eventual engine damage/shortened life. This can be difficult without a way to try different props and measure rpm but is well worth the effort. I apologize if I am speaking about something that you already know, but it may help someone else. Good luck and enjoy your new boat!
 
missmolly
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03/26/2018 07:38AM  
I didn't know that, so thanks!
 
yogi59weedr
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03/26/2018 09:15AM  
Thank you.
I will have to bring this up to the salesman.
 
03/27/2018 09:08PM  
If I was buying a boat that was only going to have a 30 I mean 25 :) it would be an SSV 18. The bigger boat weighs almost nothing more, the longer length keeps from doing a wheelie when alone, and the massive increase in boyancy due to our friend Archimedes means the boat will have more freeboard and less draw so it floats higher and planes faster and reaches higher speeds with less friction at play. Honestly I think the longer boats launch easier in primitive shallow landings because the deeper water is out further and the back end needs the most depth due to motor and pilot weight assuming it’s a tiller. I’d add a super light aluminum floor to it but that’s it.
 
GeoFisher
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03/27/2018 09:46PM  
Arcola: "I've repaired hundreds of them, not because they fail, but because the owner failed.
One of the toughest boats you can buy."


What have you had to repair?
 
yogi59weedr
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03/28/2018 10:38AM  
Walllee, what's your opinion on the 16ft with 25 getting out of the hole and on plane?
9 yrs ago hired a guide for basswood. 3 of us in his 16 with 25 and I was amazed how well that boat ran with a load.
I'm thinking about a new evinrude e-tec 2 stroke and not the merc 4 stroke. For more power out of the hole. I think once on plane both motors would be identical.
 
Walleye6
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03/28/2018 02:01PM  
Most prop shops will let you trial different props. They usually just have you put a deposit down, which you get credited for when you purchase your prop.

I believe a 25 hp would push that boat fine even with a heavy load if the prop is sized accordingly. You may not be the fastest boat on the water but as long as you can get on plane quickly you're in good shape. It would probably be best to have two props, one being a lower pitch for tripping with heavy loads and a higher pitched prop when you're fishing alone on day trips.

mgraber: "
yogi59weedr: "I thought about a 14 and decided on a 16. Curious if the 25 was enough motor when a 40 is max. Can you load it with out getting your feet wet.
Probably not going to use postage wheels.. use the truck portage at prairie .
Maybe the rollbar portage into triangle..
Other than that just the motor lakes around and south of ely..."



Since you will be a little under powered you just need to be sure that you are propped right for maximum speed and planing ability. Pretty much every factory rigged boat is over propped which is not only hard on the motor, but also hurts performance. If you can put a tachometer on it, try to prop it to reach maximum rated rpm at the lightest weight it will ever carry. That is the ideal prop, as it will usually still be in the operating range when loaded (or as close as is possible), but will not be capable of over speed. It is important to be in the rated rpm range when full throttle to avoid eventual engine damage/shortened life. This can be difficult without a way to try different props and measure rpm but is well worth the effort. I apologize if I am speaking about something that you already know, but it may help someone else. Good luck and enjoy your new boat!"
 
03/28/2018 03:20PM  
yogi59weedr: "Walllee, what's your opinion on the 16ft with 25 getting out of the hole and on plane?
9 yrs ago hired a guide for basswood. 3 of us in his 16 with 25 and I was amazed how well that boat ran with a load.
I'm thinking about a new evinrude e-tec 2 stroke and not the merc 4 stroke. For more power out of the hole. I think once on plane both motors would be identical.
"
I have the Merc 4 stroke on mine. With two people, with just fishing gear it does just great as far as getting on plane fast. When I’m loaded with a ton of camping gear and a couple people it still does a o.k. Job.
 
03/28/2018 03:38PM  
yogi59weedr: "Walllee, what's your opinion on the 16ft with 25 getting out of the hole and on plane?
9 yrs ago hired a guide for basswood. 3 of us in his 16 with 25 and I was amazed how well that boat ran with a load.
I'm thinking about a new evinrude e-tec 2 stroke and not the merc 4 stroke. For more power out of the hole. I think once on plane both motors would be identical.
"

You will love the new E-Tec. Sips gas & oil, no fumes and is quiet. Don't tear the back of the boat off taking off to plane and just don't go trolling for rocks with it 4 hours after you buy it!
 
03/28/2018 05:34PM  
I would also recommend getting the 3rd seat option . Didn’t think it was necessary but my boat came with it. Glad it did !!!
 
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03/28/2018 09:29PM  
Sorry, took me a while to respond; I'm not on every day like a lot of you lucky ones. Anyway, the 16' Fury by all standards is a very light boat for it's size. First off, I don't want to offend anyone, but I have heard so many horror stories about E-techs that I simply would not take the chance with one. I know it's a Ford-Chevy type argument, but until my Mercury 25 hp gives me a reason otherwise I'll never cheat on her! On top of that Mercury's are just so damn pretty hanging off the back of a Lund. That said, I'm 170#, my wife is 125# (so in female weight-figuring let's pretend 140# and never bring it up again), and my 16' Fury will do 25 mph all day and closer to 30 mph under ideal conditions (no water or fish in the livewell, leave the big box at home, half full gas tank, no beer, wind at our back and going downhill). J/K about that last part! So, is it a speed demon? No. Will it get you where you want to go safely and "quick enough"? Yes. Will it pull Aunt Bertha on a tube all 4th. of July weekend? Heck NO! Is it faster, easier, and more comfortable than a canoe? Of course! One last thing...I run a rock hopper on mine and you would think it would cut speed and wreck hole-shot, but you'd be wrong...in my mind, for the type lakes we're talking about in N. Mn., it's the best thing since sliced bread and worth EVERY PENNY! I haven't hit anything up North, but I've hit every rock and deadhead in the upper Croix so hard I've practically lost fillings, and I can tell you my prop looks like a new born baby and as shiny and new as the day I bought the boat.
 
yogi59weedr
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03/29/2018 04:02AM  
Thanks for the replies... very helpful.
 
Walleye6
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03/29/2018 10:16AM  
Regarding the Evinrude vs Mercury thing, if you're buying new you honestly can't go wrong with any of the major outboard makers. That includes Yamis and Suzis. Especially in the 25hp class, these motors are 1000x more reliable than anything from the past. Most of the horror stories you hear are from the big block outboards due to them trying to squeeze so much HP out of an engine that still has to hang off the back of a boat. I'm talking the 200-300 HP motors on tournament style boats. Even the 90-150 HP motors (probably the most popular range) are generally bullet proof between manufacturers. Sure you'll get a bad egg here and there, but those gremlins will usually rear their ugly head during the warranty period.

Pick the one you get the best deal on, get the right prop and go fishing!
 
missmolly
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03/29/2018 11:03AM  
: "Sorry, took me a while to respond; I'm not on every day like a lot of you lucky ones. Anyway, the 16' Fury by all standards is a very light boat for it's size. First off, I don't want to offend anyone, but I have heard so many horror stories about E-techs that I simply would not take the chance with one. I know it's a Ford-Chevy type argument, but until my Mercury 25 hp gives me a reason otherwise I'll never cheat on her! On top of that Mercury's are just so damn pretty hanging off the back of a Lund. That said, I'm 170#, my wife is 125# (so in female weight-figuring let's pretend 140# and never bring it up again), and my 16' Fury will do 25 mph all day and closer to 30 mph under ideal conditions (no water or fish in the livewell, leave the big box at home, half full gas tank, no beer, wind at our back and going downhill). J/K about that last part! So, is it a speed demon? No. Will it get you where you want to go safely and "quick enough"? Yes. Will it pull Aunt Bertha on a tube all 4th. of July weekend? Heck NO! Is it faster, easier, and more comfortable than a canoe? Of course! One last thing...I run a rock hopper on mine and you would think it would cut speed and wreck hole-shot, but you'd be wrong...in my mind, for the type lakes we're talking about in N. Mn., it's the best thing since sliced bread and worth EVERY PENNY! I haven't hit anything up North, but I've hit every rock and deadhead in the upper Croix so hard I've practically lost fillings, and I can tell you my prop looks like a new born baby and as shiny and new as the day I bought the boat."


Whoever wrote this, you are funny! Informative too.
 
03/29/2018 11:29AM  
Walleye6: "Regarding the Evinrude vs Mercury thing, if you're buying new you honestly can't go wrong with any of the major outboard makers. That includes Yamis and Suzis. Especially in the 25hp class, these motors are 1000x more reliable than anything from the past. Most of the horror stories you hear are from the big block outboards due to them trying to squeeze so much HP out of an engine that still has to hang off the back of a boat. I'm talking the 200-300 HP motors on tournament style boats. Even the 90-150 HP motors (probably the most popular range) are generally bullet proof between manufacturers. Sure you'll get a bad egg here and there, but those gremlins will usually rear their ugly head during the warranty period.


Pick the one you get the best deal on, get the right prop and go fishing!"


+1 Well said Walleye6

My E-Tec also came with a 7 year warranty.
 
03/29/2018 03:14PM  
I would try and buy local. Dealers tend to give priority to past customers on warranty work (or any work for that matter).
 
yogi59weedr
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04/10/2018 08:02PM  
Ba. boom.
Just sold my old boat. Gonna pick up the Lund on the 22nd.
2 days before my 59 birthday.


Sold my 14 ft alumicraft. 1967 no leaks
With a 15 horsepower evinrude. Tailor.
Life vest 2 seats.
Minkota stern mount endura.
Hummingbird depth finder 2 tanks 2 anchors.

For 600.00.
Motor runs like a top....

P.s. I got boat motor and trailor 10 yr ago for 400.00 from a very generous older guy....
Passed it on.



 
Mnpat
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04/10/2018 08:26PM  
If you have a mercury 4 stroke efi you can use Tohatsu props. They have more pitch options available. I had a 16’ lund rebel. On my 30 with the 25 sticker I ran a Tohatsu 10 pitch. It would hit the rev limiter around 28 mph and plane a full camping load no problem. I had the biggest optima deep cycle and a terrova on front.

Never heard of problems with the smaller etecs. I fish with a guy in the east coast of Costa Rica who has 2 25 hp etecs with thousands of hours no issues. Quiet powerful motors.
 
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