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mastertangler
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05/14/2018 02:28PM
This is, without question the best vid I have seen on Chatterbait fishing.

Chatterbaits excel in canoe country. Easy to fish, strong vibration and will catch anything. I have even caught a lake trout on one in West Lake. These walleye were suckers for a Chatterbait in WCPP

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AmarilloJim
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05/14/2018 03:04PM
MT you are a marketers dream!
Mad_Angler
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05/14/2018 03:50PM
MT. I just went from 2 plano boxes to 5. I am not buying any more fishing stuff...

At least not for this trip...
mastertangler
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05/14/2018 03:50PM
AmarilloJim: "MT you are a marketers dream!"

I know right! Gotta have one of each size! I picked up on pak of every size VMC Neko hooks they offered so I could decide which one I liked best. Naturally there will be some spillover to other applications. Those Neko hooks are flat out AMAZING! I am a huge proponent of offset hooks and these are just a tad offset. I like the size #1 or 1/0 for wacky rig with a 6.5 straight tail. But their 2/0 and 3/0 would be fantastic for bigger worms like a 9". How about that, finesse fishing a 9" worm. I wonder why a guy couldn't Neko rig an Octo Mugambo grub (8").........just have to find the right size O ring at the hardware store. Might be interesting.

I might even use these Neko type hooks for live bait chub and crawler fishing. The size #6 is very impressive for a nose hooked crawler. I might have to get a few more LOL.

Just got the Sutton spoon size chart today. Might have to place a little order with them as well ;-)

But I am digressing from Chatterbaits...........if you haven't tried Chatterbaits in the shield you are missing the boat. Truly a very versatile lure and will fish open water as well as rocks and weeds without hanging up. I bet jigging at night (lift and fall like in the video description) would be excellent for big smallies in canoe country as well as walleye. That vibration is very intense.

mastertangler
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05/14/2018 04:04PM
Mad_Angler: "MT. I just went from 2 plano boxes to 5. I am not buying any more fishing stuff...


At least not for this trip..."


Get rid of some of that other stuff and add a few Chatterbaits. Make sure you get the right trailers. I was digging on that big double curly in the video.......gotta get a pak of those. I usually use the Big Bite Bait Warmouth and rig it sideways. A drop of super glue keeps it in place. You can thank me later.
05/15/2018 03:30AM
AmarilloJim: "MT you are a marketers dream!"

Understatement of 2018.
mastertangler
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05/15/2018 06:17AM
BnD: "AmarilloJim: "MT you are a marketers dream!"


Understatement of 2018."


Ah, I believe in abundance and blessings (Thank you Jesus ;-)

Although I must admit a twang of guilt in buying those boots. I could of sponsored another Kid from Compassion for 10 months with what I spent on those. Lots of needy kids which need a meal, a uniform, and some schooling. Only $30 per month. My little girl in Haiti, Weedline, (who calls their kid "Weedline"?) is growing up. I have her most recent picture on my desk. An excellently run charity.
Bushman
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05/15/2018 11:30AM
I've never fished a chatterbait before. Very cool. Need to shut down all fishing research now or I'll end up double portaging for sure! LOL
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05/15/2018 01:06PM
Great video, and I also loved the 'Cowboy' trailer...name cracked me up and was so fitting for the profile......now, what can I compress in my tackle tray to fit a chatter or two in there?????
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05/15/2018 01:06PM
mastertangler
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05/15/2018 03:48PM
Yes I keep throwing up the Chatterbait to guys on the forum here but seem to get a lukewarm response. Just trying to help..........Try them, you will get bit, I promise.

They burst on the scene over a decade ago in a big way winning a major tournament here on lake Okeechobee. I have the inside skinny on that from a couple of my bass pro buddies. Apparently the winning angler was fishing shallow clear water and ripping the Chatterbait but then stopping it and letting it rest on the bottom for a while. And then ripping it again. Probably the bass would meander over to give the thing the eye and then it would suddenly take off.......Pow!

I have a hard time watching a fishing vid for a 1/2 hour but by the time I finished watching the Tactical bassin Chatterbait vid I felt it was time well spent and feel like I got educated in a big way. I never made the connection of just how important the trailer was.

Yes, I have to get some of those cowboy trailers, they look killer. Not a fan of the other trailers he showed however except I liked the trick with cutting the paddle tail and turning the bait upside down. I am quite settled on my trailers which I believe make a better canoe country package.........a bit tighter and better for walleye and smallmouth IMO.

These are the trailers I use...........I rig them sideways and add a drop of super glue. Very impressive action and beautiful color combinations. Cant miss combo!

Big Bite Bait Warmouth
Mad_Angler
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05/15/2018 03:56PM
mastertangler:"...
Get rid of some of that other stuff and add a few Chatterbaits. Make sure you get the right trailers. I was digging on that big double curly in the video.......gotta get a pak of those. I usually use the Big Bite Bait Warmouth and rig it sideways. A drop of super glue keeps it in place. You can thank me later. "


Fine. You talked me into it.

Now for the specifics... What exact bait and trailer do you recommend for early season fishing? I'm thinking something with a swimbait or zulu trailer...
mastertangler
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05/15/2018 03:59PM
Mad_Angler: "mastertangler:"...
Get rid of some of that other stuff and add a few Chatterbaits. Make sure you get the right trailers. I was digging on that big double curly in the video.......gotta get a pak of those. I usually use the Big Bite Bait Warmouth and rig it sideways. A drop of super glue keeps it in place. You can thank me later. "



Fine. You talked me into it.


Now for the specifics... What exact bait and trailer do you recommend for early season fishing? I'm thinking something with a swimbait or zulu trailer..."


Nay way on the zulu trailer........watch the vid and use his suggestions as per lure choice. I like his reasoning, seems solid. But be advised, his advice is for largemouth bass fishing when it comes to his trailer choices.

If you notice in the pic I posted I am using a gold blade which I generally prefer in dark water........my guess is the silver would work as well but I have always favored gold in the shield. Take note of the color combo of that trailer. The link is in the post above. Rig it sideways. It needs be straight and you must add a drop or two of super glue or it will eventually start to slide off with use or with fish. One trailer can last a while so don't balk at the price. Those little tails work like magic with all the turbulence washing over them. Don't forget.........sideways, not up and down.

Here is what I would get (probably already have as I have at least a dozen chatter baits) probably 1/4 oz for spring and get heavier as the year progresses. I like the sun perch color or that Breaking Bream and then add the big bite trailer in the pic. Guaranteed or your money back ;-)

Chatterbait custom
Mad_Angler
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05/15/2018 04:53PM
mastertangler: "...
Here is what I would get (probably already have as I have at least a dozen chatter baits) probably 1/4 oz for spring and get heavier as the year progresses. I like the sun perch color or that Breaking Bream and then add the big bite trailer in the pic. Guaranteed or your money back ;-)

..."


That sounds great. But I leave home tomorrow and start paddling on Thursday. I'm going to have to make due with what I can find locally.

So... what sort of standard trailer would you recommend?
Mad_Angler
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05/15/2018 07:02PM
You're a bad influence...

mastertangler
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05/16/2018 06:08AM
Mad_Angler: "You're a bad influence...


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Ha! Nice color.

Trailer? No time? I guess you will just need to toss on a 3"curly tail grub. Double if you have it but single will work. Don't forget the super glue and don't glue your fingers shut.

You will like fishing these. They are easy to fish and offer a little different feel and look than most other presentations. Single hook makes for easy catch and release. They are fairly snag free so don't be afraid to toss them into some junk.

Good Luck!
Mad_Angler
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05/16/2018 06:13AM
I've seen lots of references to using swim Senkos as trailers. I have some of those.

I also have some Strike King basstricks. I've seen folks use those.

And other folks have used paddle tail swimbaits. I have some of those too. I thinkI'll covered
Selfsuffi
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05/16/2018 09:04AM
I just got one of these in my "mystery Tackle Box". Never used one before so this was a well timed thread. Thank you all for the input on trailers. My kids got me this for a Christmas present and I thought it would just be a bunch of junk but it has actually been pretty fun seeing what they send and all of it has been usable and made me re-think some of my old mindsets. Like this chatterbait did...haha.
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05/16/2018 09:20AM
Ive heard jigs are pretty versatile.
mastertangler
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05/16/2018 09:52AM
Lotw: "Ive heard jigs are pretty versatile. "

Just tools right? I really like dropping Chatterbaits into weeds........they are fairly weedless and that vibration can be felt even if the lure cant be seen.

I also think the Chatterbait might just put the biggest smally of your life in the boat if fished at night.......again that vibration is something.

Jigs are tough to beat for their versatility and fish catching ability and all thing being equal they would likely be my first choice if I had to bring only 1 lure. But I enjoy fishing other lures more........like a Chatterbait...... Its just funnerer ;-)
Lotw
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05/16/2018 10:53AM
lets be honest, you just like saying it.

Oh and be careful in your google search for chatterbaits.
mastertangler
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05/16/2018 11:05AM
Lotw: "lets be honest, you just like saying it.


Oh and be careful in your google search for chatterbaits. "


Ha! Yup, gotta be careful.........my buddy told me about the slim beauty knot and I could just google it.........um, hello! (I already have one of those, thank you very much and moving right along > Yikes!)
Mad_Angler
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05/16/2018 01:37PM
AmarilloJim: "MT you are a marketers dream!"

MT, I have done some more research. I have a lot of new lures to try this year. I have to say that the chatterbait is very close to the top of the list. I can't wait to try it out.

In case you were wondering, the top of the list is occupied by Shock's F18 gold Rapala...
05/16/2018 05:04PM
MAN!!! Just when I thought my tackle box was full!!

Thanks MT! ;-)
mastertangler
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05/16/2018 07:37PM
Mad_Angler: "AmarilloJim: "MT you are a marketers dream!"


MT, I have done some more research. I have a lot of new lures to try this year. I have to say that the chatterbait is very close to the top of the list. I can't wait to try it out.


In case you were wondering, the top of the list is occupied by Shock's F18 gold Rapala..."


Yes the gold F18 in spring would be hard to beat. I also love the perch color.
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05/16/2018 09:07PM
Selfsuffi: "I just got one of these in my "mystery Tackle Box". Never used one before so this was a well timed thread. Thank you all for the input on trailers. My kids got me this for a Christmas present and I thought it would just be a bunch of junk but it has actually been pretty fun seeing what they send and all of it has been usable and made me re-think some of my old mindsets. Like this chatterbait did...haha."

Thanks for posting that about MTB. Same as you, got it for Christmas. Saw your post and checked the box I just received, and sure enough, there is one in there. Mine is pretty much black in color, so should I try it, or go for the recommended colors?
Selfsuffi
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05/17/2018 05:53AM
Mine is black with a touch of green in it. I am going on a trip to BWCA in mid June and I am going to try it out then. I will post a trip report and I will mention how it worked for me. Remember I haven't fished a chatter bait before so it will be a learning process.
mastertangler
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05/17/2018 06:48AM
I typically gravitate towards natural colors in canoe country and strongly believe that black is a very underutilized lure color. I like black, browns, greens and if I am going a bit loud I like a combination of chartreuse and white.

If you fish the Chatterbait without the right trailer you are reducing its effectivess by at least 1/2 IMO. Part of what makes the bait so effective is that blade creates a lot of turbulence which of course washes over the trailer making it "come alive".

With the dark skirts I like the idea of creating a crawfish imitation and that means a double tail grub (curly tail). Stay dark but you don't have to match exactly rather have slightly contrasting. Like a black skirt and a green pumpkin grub.

Fish it near bottom and don't be afraid to vary the retrieve by throwing in some short bursts of speed and then letting it drop. Pay attention as you will get bit on the drop. Set hooks with authority even if you think it is just a weed.

But one of the positives about a chatter bait is there is no wrong way to fish it. Mindless casting and retrieving also catches plenty of fish as does drifting and jigging.
Selfsuffi
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05/17/2018 07:08AM
I don't have any double tail but I do have some green pumpkin grubs that I like a lot and have had good luck with down in Illinois. That is what I plan on adding as a trailer to start and then I will mix it up from there. Thank you!
Abbey
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05/17/2018 04:34PM
AmarilloJim: "MT you are a marketers dream!"

MT - I’m just glad you aren’t posting all the extra gear I “need” for fly fishing too.
mastertangler
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05/17/2018 07:11PM
Abbey: "AmarilloJim: "MT you are a marketers dream!"


MT - I’m just glad you aren’t posting all the extra gear I “need” for fly fishing too. "


I wished sometimes that I lived in Montana or Idaho so I could take up fly fishing. Seems like it would be very useful and fun.
mastertangler
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05/17/2018 07:16PM
Selfsuffi: "I don't have any double tail but I do have some green pumpkin grubs that I like a lot and have had good luck with down in Illinois. That is what I plan on adding as a trailer to start and then I will mix it up from there. Thank you!"

You will do fine. I know I sound like a broken record but take some super glue and add a drop where the head of the grub contacts the jig head. It will secure it for an extended period of time and salvage your trailer and you won't have any wasted casts as well. If your like me, you might need some readers to apply the drop, it also helps in not glueing your fingers together (no it didn't happen to me but I have heard of it happening).
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05/17/2018 11:41PM
MT posting a TacticalBassin vid? I assume you'd heard of them before, but if not, I hope my suggestion re: the senko video wasn't the start of you binge-watching their whole canon. If so, that could get expensive. :)

Either way, cbaits are a fish magnet. 'nuf said. Crazy good for pike and bass and a few walleyes, too. No big need in many lakes to stick to natural colors, either. Bright trailers and skirts have far surpassed more natural colors for me more often than not in the Q/BWCA.
mastertangler
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05/18/2018 07:15AM
carmike: "MT posting a TacticalBassin vid? I assume you'd heard of them before, but if not, I hope my suggestion re: the senko video wasn't the start of you binge-watching their whole canon. If so, that could get expensive. :)


Either way, cbaits are a fish magnet. 'nuf said. Crazy good for pike and bass and a few walleyes, too. No big need in many lakes to stick to natural colors, either. Bright trailers and skirts have far surpassed more natural colors for me more often than not in the Q/BWCA. "


Personal preference I guess. I have always had better luck catching bigger fish in clear water with natural colors, unless it's rough out or early/late in the day or raining. I am definitely not a numbers guy. I do like chartreuse and white however...........lots of guys catch nice fish on straight white but it just doesn't do it for me.

I have had good luck with walleye on the Chatterbaits quietly drifting through big weed beds and jigging and ripping right below the boat. Seems to get their attention in a way that other lures do not.

And if the eyes are fairly shallow the bladed jig catches them really well IMO. I like keeping the package tight however when fishing for walleye and smallies. Those Big Bite Baits Warmouths sideways as the trailer makes for an impressive combo.

I haven't really spent much time deep jigging them either. The Picasso bladed jigs come in sizes as heavy as 2 oz. Who knew? I caught an unexpected Laker on an regular chatter bait when changing spots I stuck the lure in the rod holder to paddle to another point, Bam.
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05/18/2018 12:30PM
I agree they're incredible in weeds...Probably my favorite "weed" bait in canoe country, in fact. I tend to use them for pike, not walleye, so that might be part of the difference in success rates with different colors. And I often try to find "tannic" or slightly stained water, so that might also have something to do with it.
mastertangler
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05/18/2018 01:09PM
carmike: "I agree they're incredible in weeds...Probably my favorite "weed" bait in canoe country, in fact. I tend to use them for pike, not walleye, so that might be part of the difference in success rates with different colors. And I often try to find "tannic" or slightly stained water, so that might also have something to do with it. "

Great minds think alike ;-)

Instead of casting and retrieving them try drifting them across deep weed beds in say around 8' of water and work them more or less straight down below the boat. I have found a surprising amount of walleye which seem to bury up and remain more or less dormant during the day while their brethren might be on some offshore reef. Just a "tick" and it gets down and dirty in the weeds, no place for finesse and heavy straight braid rules. Good thing they usually are equipped with a fairly beefy hook.

Despite my insistence on using them I actually don't use them that often since my trips are largely taken in August and stealth trolling crank baits or Shadzillas has been 80% of what I have done recently.

But every time I use the bladed wonder I get chewed. Definitely a confidence bait. So this year I plan on doing more casting and the Chatterbait will be my #1 option. As per my "marketers dream" reputation I had already picked up quite a variety of Chatterbaits last year along with one Pak of every color offered in the Big Bite Bait Warmouth series. Good thing my addiction is fishing instead of on-line gambling.........although it may be a question to ponder what vice would be cheaper ;-)
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05/25/2018 01:21PM
Update: Used two styles of z-man chatterbaits with different trailers and had NO success on smallmouth. You read that correctly. I did not catch a single smallie on a chatterbait, and I tried relatively hard. Literally everything else seemed to catch them except for the chatterbait. I did however, have good success on pike with them, and caught one walleye using one. In the future I'm going to stick with my plastic jerk minnows, they're lethal.
mastertangler
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05/25/2018 02:54PM
TheTugistheDrug: "Update: Used two styles of z-man chatterbaits with different trailers and had NO success on smallmouth. You read that correctly. I did not catch a single smallie on a chatterbait, and I tried relatively hard. Literally everything else seemed to catch them except for the chatterbait. I did however, have good success on pike with them, and caught one walleye using one. In the future I'm going to stick with my plastic jerk minnows, they're lethal."

interesting........it may of been a time of year sort of thing, color you were throwing or your method. I would not abandon them so easily, there is a mountain of experience out there which suggests otherwise. Were you throwing silver blades? Bright colors? I have had my best luck with Chatterbaits with gold blades and rather drab colors fished on or near the bottom.

It is not my first option for smallmouths thats for sure but I cant help but believe they would be excellent at night for the big boys.

It is likely that 2 months from now your plastic jerk minnows fished shallow will catch very little........so its not always the lure but rather how, when and where it is fished. The same with the Chatterbait.

It is just as likely that you go next week, next month or next year to the same waters and the Chatterbait is the ticket. Just another tool in the box. i have usually had good luck with them but if I am not getting bit I change.
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05/25/2018 03:30PM
TheTugistheDrug: "Update: Used two styles of z-man chatterbaits with different trailers and had NO success on smallmouth. You read that correctly. I did not catch a single smallie on a chatterbait, and I tried relatively hard. Literally everything else seemed to catch them except for the chatterbait. I did however, have good success on pike with them, and caught one walleye using one. In the future I'm going to stick with my plastic jerk minnows, they're lethal."

What kind of plastic jerk minnows do you use?
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05/25/2018 04:32PM
Hooked another one!.
I will have get 2 of these and trailers...looks legit
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05/26/2018 12:30AM
That is funny.

I won a kayak bass tourney three way rigging a Sutton spoon (drift dropshotting, only a longer lead with a spoon, killer on deep shoal smallmouth).

And then I was immediately DQ'd because I was in a canoe instead of a kayak (Canadian kayak tourney rules).
2nd place was sponsored by Z-Bait, lol.

For the record the only decent fish I've ever caught on a chatterbait was a 10lb 30" Brown trout. While I was fishing for Sheepshead in Lake Ontario.
They're okay cast & retrieve lures, but a Rat-L-Trap works better.
mastertangler
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05/26/2018 05:01PM
Dilligaf0220: " That is funny.


I won a kayak bass tourney three way rigging a Sutton spoon (drift dropshotting, only a longer lead with a spoon, killer on deep shoal smallmouth).

"


Hey, thats right in my wheel house. Let me pick your noggin. I recently acquired a rather broad selection of Sutton flutter spoons with the intention of trolling them with snap weights and Offshore Tackle tadpoles (diving planers) and using a line counter out of a canoe.

Any tips? Right now I am in the process of ditching the winky little treble hooks. I picked up some Trokar Siwash hooks but the wire is sort of thick and has impacted the action somewhat. I have placed another order for Gamakutsu siwash in red and slightly smaller. It seems to me the bigger hook would grab the bigger fish better.

I was also thinking of adding a bit of thread material as a trailer of sorts.

But I am new to dragging Suttons and have much yet to learn. Thoughts?
mastertangler
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05/26/2018 05:08PM
LightFish: "Hooked another one!.
I will have get 2 of these and trailers...looks legit"


Two? Obviously you don't know me very well. 8 or 10 should suffice in various color combinations and just so we have the perfect trailer I will get one pak of every color offered in the Big Bite Bait warmouth series........NOW we are talking!

I dunno.......plenty of guys pooh poohing my Chatterbaits. Hey, they have won some big tournaments. But as i have already stated, I have not used them extensively. But it seems like whenever I do I get bit. I will be using them quite a bit this summer in WCPP. That will tell the tale. They caught the walleye on Musclow very well.........but on the other hand, ANYTHING caught the walleye very well on that lake LOL.
 
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