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mastertangler
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05/29/2018 05:49AM
I am completely torn between WCPP and doing something else. My heart is in WCPP but my mind suggests otherwise. At one point I was convinced of going through Prairie Portage up through Agnes and sliding over to Burt. But I didn't apply for a RABC permit and it seemed I just wasn't as into that trip as I should be.

Heres my question........if i decide last minute to go to the Quetico instead of WCPP can I just "show up" at the Beaverhouse check in and snag a permit?
 
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AmarilloJim
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05/29/2018 07:35AM
I would stop at the main park office in Atikokan. That way if by chance the Beaverhouse EP's are full you could get one for another northern EP.
Thwarted
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05/29/2018 08:06AM
Heres my question........if i decide last minute to go to the Quetico instead of WCPP can I just "show up" at the Beaverhouse check in and snag a permit? "
Technically, the Beaverhouse ranger station is on Beaverhouse Lake. Way too much trouble to get there so (of course) you should use the Antikoken or French Lake stations. But I would not just go there. I have always had great conversations with those two stations in person or by phone. Just pick up the phone and call them before leaving home. Their job is to get you into the park and they will do their best for you.

In general, I predict no difficulty at all.
Jackfish
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05/29/2018 08:38AM
You can always check the Ontario Parks online reservation page to see your options.

Here is an example of the availability. I chose July 15 as the entry date for this example. Quetico backcountry reservation calendar

Obviously, things can change between the time you check online and the time you arrive at the ranger station without a reservation, but in the case of the Beaverhouse entry, you have the opportunity to choose Cirrus or Quetico Lakes. It's pretty likely that one would be available.

I would still plan to pick up the permit in Atikokan instead of paddling to the BH ranger station. If you're driving east on Highway 11, Atikokan is 25 minutes past the Flanders turnoff to the BH Lake landing. Paddling from the BH Lake landing to the BH ranger station takes about an hour. If the only permit available is for Cirrus, you'll turn around and paddle almost an hour back to the portage that was 10 minutes from where you put-in. And if you already have your Quetico Lake permit in-hand from Atikokan, you can skip the triangular route and paddling time to the BH ranger station and go directly to the first portage from BH to the Quetico River/Lake.
05/29/2018 12:42PM
In a pinch you could also have an outfitter get you a permit. There is actually 2 quotas. One for Ontario Residents and customers of Ontario outfitters and one for non-residents. I didn't know about this until I started looking around for an outfitter for a Stanton Pick up. By the time I found one the date for Nym entry was filled. The outfitter said no problem and ordered the permit for me.

I don't know what you would have to rent, one I was just going to use a cabin and they offered to get my permit, but I am also bringing 2 small children so I maybe they are giving me more leeway?

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Eyedocron
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05/29/2018 08:30PM
Having gone on many trips in the 90's and 00's, when you got your entry permit at 7 AM 5 months ahead on their 800 # and later on line or you did not get your desired day, the idea of simply showing up at the Beaverhouse entry cabin, after driving 40 min down a logging road, parking and portaging an 800 meter abandoned railway, canoeing an hour or more across a wide and potentially windy lake, and expecting to find an available entry permit astounds me. I agree with those who suggest going to the park office in Atikokan, where you can find availability for three northern entries (plus Stanton Bay).
For the northern entries, you do not need a RABC, but you still need a Ontario Outdood Card ordered at least a month ahead, as well as the fishing license, both ordered on line.
Good luck on your trip. Why are you not deciding on your trip route until the last day?
mastertangler
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05/30/2018 06:43AM
Eyedocron: "Having gone on many trips in the 90's and 00's, when you got your entry permit at 7 AM 5 months ahead on their 800 # and later on line or you did not get your desired day, the idea of simply showing up at the Beaverhouse entry cabin, after driving 40 min down a logging road, parking and portaging an 800 meter abandoned railway, canoeing an hour or more across a wide and potentially windy lake, and expecting to find an available entry permit astounds me. I agree with those who suggest going to the park office in Atikokan, where you can find availability for three northern entries (plus Stanton Bay).
For the northern entries, you do not need a RABC, but you still need a Ontario Outdood Card ordered at least a month ahead, as well as the fishing license, both ordered on line.
Good luck on your trip. Why are you not deciding on your trip route until the last day?"

Cant argue with any of your points and certainly frames me in rather questionable intellectual light. The last few years I have been conflicted due in large part to some physical limitations which have pressed in and thus my indecision.

I have only been to the northern entry one time and did not take care of the permitting process and it "seemed" that we went to the Beaverhouse station to secure everything. Obviously that is incorrect and I thank all of you who weighed in directing me to Atitkokan which I had forgotten about.

Rough winter for me with way too much work and I am dragging, a tad out of shape and about 20lbs overweight to boot. When I get extra weight on, my back lets me know and I can't imagine being in the middle of WCPP with a back out. It was bad enough sitting in a recliner watching BBC Blue Planet and NAT GEO nature flicks for 10 hours per day for a week barely able to walk to the bathroom a few years back.

So, much like last year, I am reconsidering. Last year turned out wonderfully well and this year the thought of two or three weeks on Cirrus and Quetico Lake or Pickerel doesn't sound like a bad consolation prize. But I am still hopeful of going to WCPP and I have two months to lose some weight and see how a vigorous workout regiment effects things. I probably won't decide until a week or ten days out. I figure the odds are 75% WCPP. If I get nicked, I will try for Cirrus/ Quetico lakes.

Thanks again gentlemen for pointing me in the right direction. I already have my Outdoors Card, but I better get cracking on my fishing license.
Jackfish
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05/30/2018 07:58AM
mastertangler: "...but I better get cracking on my fishing license. "
No worries regarding your fishing license. You can buy it and print the paper copy five minutes before you walk out the door for your trip. See the thread I started above this one.

You're in Florida, right? Do you fly or drive on these trips?
mastertangler
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05/30/2018 10:38AM
Jackfish: "mastertangler: "...but I better get cracking on my fishing license. "
No worries regarding your fishing license. You can buy it and print the paper copy five minutes before you walk out the door for your trip. See the thread I started above this one.

You're in Florida, right? Do you fly or drive on these trips?"


I am originally a Michigander and still spend my summers there. Nothing going on in Florida during the summer but hot and hotter. I drive, drive, drive,...............and then drive some more ;-)

Good deal on getting the fishing license before I leave. Thanks for pointing it out! Bingo Presto!
 
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