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05/29/2018 02:04PM  
Made a trip into the woods last week leaving from Seagull and ending up on SAK. Due to windy conditions we made camp on Alpine for the night. Saturday 5/26. While bobber fishing from the camp, we witnessed very bright lights that seemed to be scanning the woods and shore line on the island and shoreline we faced, due North. It was between 10 pm and midnight, no campsites in the vicinity, and the lights really covered some ground. Did anybody else see these lights or have you seen anything like this before? Very strange... made hairs stand up and falling asleep a little tough...
 
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Bumstead
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05/29/2018 02:43PM  
Now that is a bit scary.....no explanation from me, that's for sure. Did you take turns on watch duty during the night? :-)
 
05/29/2018 02:55PM  
Where the lights coming from ground/water level?

If so it could have been people with bright headlamps or flashlights. Some of the lights on the market these days really pump out a lot of light. Could only speculate at what they might be doing.
 
tumblehome
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05/29/2018 02:58PM  
Completely agree with nofish. People in a canoe paddling near shore with intense LED flashlight/headlamps.
 
05/29/2018 03:03PM  
The lights looked to be on the shore line and also spent time a small distance into the trees..... Believe me , We thought about bright headlamps and flashlights as well, and I wont rule anything out because honestly I don't have a logical explanation for what we saw... But if that were the case there were more than one person with lights because of the distance covered, and we never saw more than one light at a given time.... I tried to get video but because it was dark and the distance was so far it only captured the light when it was directly facing us.... The sound of us being freaked out is more compelling than the Video:)
 
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05/29/2018 03:05PM  
 
Northwoodsman
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05/29/2018 07:15PM  
We were staying on Gaskin last fall when at about 9:00 p.m. 2 canoes from the campsite not too far from us with 4 or 5 people in them headed over to a peninsula near us and started walking around in the woods with their headlamps on. It was pitch black so we couldn't figure out what they were doing. At first we thought perhaps they were trying to dispose of fish guts, but why would it take 4 people in two canoes? The second thought was they were looking for firewood but they were staying fairly close to a burn area that was a gold mine for firewood. Never did figure it out.
 
analyzer
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05/29/2018 08:15PM  
Kinda reminds me of this post from Kensofe in (worst night in the woods):

"So, so right, people are the true danger....in the late 80s my best friend had just gotten his honorable discharge from the Air Force and we lived in Idaho, so we headed north to party somewhere around a hot springs and enjoy the weekend, Idaho is full of hot springs and finding them is sometimes just a matter of hiking in. We knew of one north of Lowman, Idaho that is kind of remote so we drove up there. We set up camp at a very nice camp ground near the hot springs, maybe 200 yards away. We purposely chose the farthest away campsite in case anyone else showed up. We made a campfire for later, got out some lawn chairs and enjoyed an afternoon of sunny conditions, watching elk graze on a far hillside as we drank a few beers. We put some beers in a cooler and decided to walk over to the hot springs to soak. I should mention here too that the beer was in glass bottles, dumb of us. The hot springs were a collection of rocks piled up over the years and about four feet deep at the deepest but you had to walk maybe 40-50 yards across rocks that are warm, wet, mossy, and slippery. We did OK on the way to the hot springs, got in and relaxed, enjoyed the afternoon around us and drank a couple more beers. After some time two guys and two girls showed up. These guys looked like they had just been released from prison, tattoos all over WAY before tattoos all over were common, this was mid 80s or so, and they had bad attitudes. These two guys were also very verbally abusive to the two girls along with them. The was a stream that ran very close to the hot springs, and these guys were encouraging the two women to dip the breasts in the cold water and give them a t*tty show...it was abusive and along with this they had a boom box. Keep in mind, this is fairly remote, my buddy and I cam there for peace and quiet and to enjoy some time together outdoors. They started playing the book box pretty loud, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, MegaDeath, Twisted sister, et al...even though this hot spring was kind of large and we were as far away from them as we could be, the music was intrusive. There are no park rangers or help up there, it is purposely remote, rangers rarely show up there. So, in between one of the songs, I had had enough and told them to "turn it off, leave it off". One of the guys clicked it off and looked, glared down at us and said "what did you say?" I said "We have heard enough, leave it off for awhile.."....the tension immediately ratcheted up, as you can imagine. The abuse of the women continued, the sun was going down and it was getting dark fast. My buddy and I decided to take the couple hundred yard hike back to our tent/campsite. We had to walk back across these mossy, slippery, wet rocks, only now in the gathering dark. I was carrying the cooler and slipped and fell- remember I said we were stupid enough to bring glass beer bottles? Now we had mostly empty glass bar bottles skittering all over the rocks and path to the hot springs. Not good....in the dark, I got up and started trying to find all the beer bottles, hoping none broke. My buddy helped and we did find them all, none broke, a miracle. We hiked back to our tent area, passing the convict tent area on the way. Thank God we did set up our tent at the far end of the camp area, but, still, I was uncomfortable with them even being in the same area. They were a bad vibe and looked and acted as bad actors.

It gets even stranger.....We returned to our campsite and started the campfire we had built earlier. It immediately got too large and we were concerned about it getting out of control...it did calm down after a bit and we relaxed in our chairs as we kept one eye down the way on the convicts distant campsite. We could hear them, barely, but they stayed to themselves, thankfully. It did get strange though.....

Later, quite some time later, we were still sitting around the campfire talking..... All of a sudden, across the short ravine just away from us maybe couple hundred yards, same area where we watched the elk grazing earlier, a bright light appeared on the ridge. This was a very steep ridge and no man or beast could maneuver as this did- this light moved rapidly up the ridge, across the steep ravine, down the ridge, then would shoot very fast along the short peak that climbed to the mountains behind it. My buddy and I watched this and became increasingly disconcerted, "what the hell is THAT?!!! What is God's name can move like that in that terrain?!!" It was unreal, to this day I get chills when I think of it. Nothing I am aware of can move like that though brush, some timber, and very steep inclines and rocky pitches. As we watched we got freaked out. We decided in our irrational state, we should get in my truck and lock the doors.....I had an old IH 4x4 that could push over what it couldn't clear- a beast of a truck but had no functioning door locks....so, we got in and tried to lock the doors which did not lock. We were semi-worked into a lather at this point, embarrassing, but true- this light and whatever it was freaked us out in a way that I can not even re-create today. And it went on for a good 30 minutes....up, across, down, over, and through this very wooded, rocky, steep, nearly impassable terrain. I still don't know what it was....

Anyway, we went back to the camp area and watched this light for a bit until it suddenly disappeared as mysteriously as it appeared, just all of a sudden, gone. Nothing further was seen of it. The fire died down and eventually we went to our sleeping bags, uneasily...at first light I awoke and we packed camp and got out of there. Not before I looked across at that ridge and wondered what the hell that had been. We went to the closest breakfast shop open down the mountain a ways and had a bunch of coffee and a massive breakfast. I stole a coffee cup from that restaurant to remember that time and still have it to this day......I will never know what that was and every time I see this long-term buddy of mine eventually that story comes up.... "

Kensofe
 
05/30/2018 12:06AM  
after reading analyzer's story , i thought i would share this one . (not BW) & a little O.T.
it's winter time on my local lake , lake waconia , this was before i owned a wheelhouse so we would just sit in the bronco and watch for flags/lights on our tip ups.
this was dusk time.
so i have to get out to take a piss , as i'm doing this (looking east over the top of my bronco) this burst of light in the sky caught my eye , it was an explosion of red's-oranges & yellows lights and then it started to move on a very straight line , i said to my buddy do you see this ,,,he said nothing so i just assumed he was seeing the same thing i was ,
Waconia is a round 3,000 acre lake and a person can see long into the horizon , this object of light continued on a very straight line , straight out to the atmosphere , it was completely out of sight in about 10 seconds , maybe 10 seconds. the speed was insane
i said to my buddy "tell me you just saw that ? " he said "i sure did and i was in the air force and we have nothing that moves like that"
since that late evening i always take notice of when a passenger jet passes over the lake and it takes awhile to be out of sight .
i understand fighter jets are very fast , but this thing went from a stationary object of light to being gone in under 10 seconds. Crazy !
 
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05/30/2018 03:34PM  
 
Brp1
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05/30/2018 06:42PM  
Could it have been a drone? Seems plausible.
 
05/31/2018 04:01PM  
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06/01/2018 11:12AM  
The thing about the dark and lights is that it can be very difficult to pinpoint the lights and how much ground they cover. You are mainly left without reference points, and distance covered when you can't see the light is deceptive. Not to cast doubt on the situation or write it off, but it could easily be a simple explanation for all we know. I'm sure lots of people do things that seem suspicious or strange when viewed or of context and from a distance.
 
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