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Duluthian
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06/05/2018 10:16AM   (Thread Older Than 3 Years)
I'm going to be purchasing a hennessy hammock - the jungle expedition asym. Long time BWCAer thats relatively new to hammocking. I've watched a lot of shugs hammock videos and I think I am going to be getting whoopie slings for my hammock. With that said, I'm not sure what length of straps to go with - the 42", 72" or 96". I'm not one of those people that is all willy nilly on saving a couple grams/ounces at the expense of potential functionality. I'm usually a base camper and don't do a ton of portaging. Does anybody have any recommendation on strap length for the hennessy hammocks? I'm thinking either the 72" or 96" but I'm just not sure if it is a huge hassle to have straps that are way too long for some trees (I'd think you'd just be able to wrap around the tree a couple extra times if the strap is too long). Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
 
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06/05/2018 01:00PM  
What hardware will you be using to attach the whoopie slings to the tree straps?
 
Duluthian
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06/05/2018 01:37PM  
I was thinking a marlin spike toggle but am open to suggestions.
 
proepro
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06/05/2018 02:42PM  
This isn't meant to be a sarcastic answer but there are some big trees in the BWCA. If you hang from them you need big straps.

Last year I had some 14' straps that were just right for one hammock site with white pines. Then I moved to another with smaller trees closer together where I would have been O.K. with 6' straps. These were long straps without whoopie slings.

 
06/05/2018 02:46PM  
Marlin spike will be fine. I would get the 96" straps personally. Sometimes the right trees can be some distance apart, and it's better to have too much strap as opposed to too little.....
 
Savage Voyageur
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06/05/2018 07:00PM  
Get the 96” ones and you should be fine. I also use the marlin spikes with Whoopi slings. Some trees are spaced farther apart or they are a larger diameter so go big.
 
Duluthian
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06/06/2018 08:19AM  
unshavenman: "Marlin spike will be fine. I would get the 96" straps personally. Sometimes the right trees can be some distance apart, and it's better to have too much strap as opposed to too little..... "


Is there a set up with carabiners that is just as good or better than the marlin spike? Or any other recommendations on hardware with the whoopie sling?
 
jeroldharter
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06/09/2018 05:38PM  
No, on the carabiner option. Marlin spikes are the way to go I think, so long as you position the rope over the knot correctly.
 
06/10/2018 04:06PM  
Duluthian: "
unshavenman: "Marlin spike will be fine. I would get the 96" straps personally. Sometimes the right trees can be some distance apart, and it's better to have too much strap as opposed to too little..... "



Is there a set up with carabiners that is just as good or better than the marlin spike? Or any other recommendations on hardware with the whoopie sling?"

I personally use Dutch's Beetle Buckles. Check out his straps and huggers as well as all of the other awesome hardware that can make hanging easier. And have fun going down the rabbit hole!
 
06/11/2018 11:22AM  
unshavenman: "ly use Dutch's Beetle Buckles. "

Used my Chameleon with Dutch's straps and buckles in Quetico last week. Agreed - the only way to go. Virtually infinite in its adjustability, solid as a rock, fast, and simple. Pretty sure my straps are 10' or 12'.
 
Duluthian
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06/11/2018 03:17PM  

I personally use Dutch's Beetle Buckles. Check out his straps and huggers as well as all of the other awesome hardware that can make hanging easier. And have fun going down the rabbit hole!"


Thank you for the suggestion. So would these take the place of the standard straps that come with the hennessy hammock and would connect to the whoopie sling?
 
06/11/2018 03:21PM  
Duluthian: "So would these take the place of the standard straps that come with the hennessy hammock and would connect to the whoopie sling?"

No Whoopies needed with them - they're the strap and suspension combined. Loop from your gathered end hooks directly to the buckle. Whole package allows you to use trees three feet or so closer together than previously possible as a result.
 
06/11/2018 04:42PM  
ParkerMag: "
Duluthian: "So would these take the place of the standard straps that come with the hennessy hammock and would connect to the whoopie sling?"

No Whoopies needed with them - they're the strap and suspension combined. Loop from your gathered end hooks directly to the buckle. Whole package allows you to use trees three feet or so closer together than previously possible as a result."

Yep, what ParkerMag said. You can use whoopie slings with the strap and beetle buckle system but it's not required. I carry whoopie slings as well with a Dutchware Whoopie Hook in place of the bead. This allows me some flexibility if it's a really far stretch between trees. I can attach the hammock loop to the whoopie sling with the hook, then the whoopie slings attach to the straps with the Dutch Beetle. When the trees are close together I can attach the straps directly to the hammock loop.
 
ockycamper
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06/12/2018 08:12PM  
We have hammocked camped for years. Have also tried every type of suspension idea. The quickest and easiest is Python straps and carabiners. Carabiner hooked to each end of the hammock. Just slip the hammock strap around the tree, and hook the carabiner into a loop on each strap. Added bonus is that the other loops are great for hanging stuff. LIterally, can set up the hammock in less then 1 minute. Far faster and easier then whoopie slings. . .and will never slip or break.
 
06/12/2018 08:22PM  
The issue I have with the python straps is they are heavy and not very long.
 
ockycamper
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06/15/2018 03:12PM  
I tile a loop on the rope near the hammock, and another in the middle and another at the end. Then I use a carabiner to attach to python straps. That effectively doubles the reach to a tree, and still makes set up extremely quick. If I was backpacking perhaps I would worry about the extra ounces in Python Straps. But not in canoes.

I also have 20 foot long daisy loop straps from Amazon. I use them for tarp set up. Far stronger and easier then rope.
 
mags459
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06/28/2018 02:27PM  
The biggest issue I have had in the bwca is that the trees can be too close. Woopie Slings make that even more difficult. I like dutchware webbing, you can then use cinch buckles, biners or stick with marlin spike hitch. This allows you to get as close to the tree as possible. The loop webbing is just too bulky for my liking and really doesnt help with anything as you can just use a binner with single webbing without any issues.
 
OCDave
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06/28/2018 03:28PM  
Duluthian: "I'm going to be purchasing a hennessy hammock - the jungle expedition asym. Long time BWCAer thats relatively new to hammocking. I've watched a lot of shugs hammock videos and I think I am going to be getting whoopie slings for my hammock. With that said, I'm not sure what length of straps to go with - the 42", 72" or 96". I'm not one of those people that is all willy nilly on saving a couple grams/ounces at the expense of potential functionality. I'm usually a base camper and don't do a ton of portaging. Does anybody have any recommendation on strap length for the hennessy hammocks? I'm thinking either the 72" or 96" but I'm just not sure if it is a huge hassle to have straps that are way too long for some trees (I'd think you'd just be able to wrap around the tree a couple extra times if the strap is too long). Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks"


I am long time hammock camper and have tried multple suspensions. I carry one 8' and one 12' tree strap. (12 footer in case I need to use a big tree). With continuous loops larksheaded on the ends of my hammock, I can typically hang directly from the strap. In the event that the trees are too far apart to use the straps alone, only then to I add the Whoopie slings (with, as mentioned above, a whoopie hook in place of the bead). I hook into my continous loops and hang the whoopie from the strap with the Marlin Spike hitch.

While I admire the innovation that Hennesy Hammocks brought to the market, I found other hammocks to be more comfortable so, I have no experience hanging that model. Just keep playing until you find what works for you.
 
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