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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Listening Point - General Discussion It CAN (and just might) happen to you |
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08/12/2018 04:12PM
Most of us think we are careful. We plan, prepare, and try not to take unnecessary risks while in the wilderness. We think that will prevent accidents. 99% of the time, we are right. That 1% of the time doesn't enter our minds. Well, that changed for me on my recently completed trip.
At the bottom of the cliffs on the south side of Winchell, I was stepping from a moss covered rock to another rock a little higher than the one I was on. It was one easy step away, something I've done 1000's of time. I have no memory of what happened next, but my 17 yo son thankfully was only several steps behind me and saw it all. I slipped, fell, and lurched forward. I crashed into the side of the rock ahead of me, my head hitting the rocks about waist height, and crumpled to the ground. I came to as he reached me (2-3 seconds?) and reached into my pocket to try to answer the phone that I thought was ringing. There was no phone. In that 2-3 seconds I had imagined a phone call as well as my wife's voice telling me I had missed a call. I then realized my head hurt, and those were the first words out of my mouth. I was dazed and slightly bleeding from my cheek, ear, and arm all as a result of the rest of the fall after my body went limp from hitting the rock with my left eye area.
All in all, I was lucky. I did not have a concussion. My memory from just before that accident, as well as right after the accident was still fully intact. Other than some initial dizziness and a headache for a couple days, I was able to continue my trip as planned. I did end up with one hell of a black eye. It could have been much, much worse, and even with help from my son, it would have been a chore to get back to our site which at that time was about 4.5 miles of paddling and a portage away. If I had fallen harder, or on a more jagged rock and cracked my skull, our small first aid kit (which was with us) would not have done much. It will be a learning experience to draw from for years to come, but really was nothing more than what it was- a freak accident doing something I'm likely to continue doing.
Please, be careful out there at all times and don't take for granted how quickly a seemingly safe activity can turn into a potentially bad situation.
At the bottom of the cliffs on the south side of Winchell, I was stepping from a moss covered rock to another rock a little higher than the one I was on. It was one easy step away, something I've done 1000's of time. I have no memory of what happened next, but my 17 yo son thankfully was only several steps behind me and saw it all. I slipped, fell, and lurched forward. I crashed into the side of the rock ahead of me, my head hitting the rocks about waist height, and crumpled to the ground. I came to as he reached me (2-3 seconds?) and reached into my pocket to try to answer the phone that I thought was ringing. There was no phone. In that 2-3 seconds I had imagined a phone call as well as my wife's voice telling me I had missed a call. I then realized my head hurt, and those were the first words out of my mouth. I was dazed and slightly bleeding from my cheek, ear, and arm all as a result of the rest of the fall after my body went limp from hitting the rock with my left eye area.
All in all, I was lucky. I did not have a concussion. My memory from just before that accident, as well as right after the accident was still fully intact. Other than some initial dizziness and a headache for a couple days, I was able to continue my trip as planned. I did end up with one hell of a black eye. It could have been much, much worse, and even with help from my son, it would have been a chore to get back to our site which at that time was about 4.5 miles of paddling and a portage away. If I had fallen harder, or on a more jagged rock and cracked my skull, our small first aid kit (which was with us) would not have done much. It will be a learning experience to draw from for years to come, but really was nothing more than what it was- a freak accident doing something I'm likely to continue doing.
Please, be careful out there at all times and don't take for granted how quickly a seemingly safe activity can turn into a potentially bad situation.
08/12/2018 04:46PM
Two thoughts:
-->That 1% comes out of nowhere, doesn't it? No means to foresee such a mishap.
-->You are tough as nails. Took a beating and kept on trekking.
-->That 1% comes out of nowhere, doesn't it? No means to foresee such a mishap.
-->You are tough as nails. Took a beating and kept on trekking.
“If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Sir Isaac Newton
08/12/2018 11:00PM
Any second,when you least expect it.
Two weeks ago,I did the last 50 miles of RAGBRAI. I was proud of myself as I have a bad leg. I finished the ride and was peddling down the bike path to catch a boat ride across the river to pick up my truck.
We were approaching a intersection and I started to turn right. Some clown didn't feel like slowing down and tried to pass in the dirt on the right and hit my handlebars and takes me out.
I remember hitting my head on the ground really hard... MY HELMET SAVED ME. Ended up with two broken ribs. I was 300 feet from the end.
Two weeks ago,I did the last 50 miles of RAGBRAI. I was proud of myself as I have a bad leg. I finished the ride and was peddling down the bike path to catch a boat ride across the river to pick up my truck.
We were approaching a intersection and I started to turn right. Some clown didn't feel like slowing down and tried to pass in the dirt on the right and hit my handlebars and takes me out.
I remember hitting my head on the ground really hard... MY HELMET SAVED ME. Ended up with two broken ribs. I was 300 feet from the end.
Ah retired @ 50
08/12/2018 11:02PM
Mocha: "curious if you visited your doctor when you got home? i would think any head injury such as yours might warrent a look-see. "
Since I wasn’t/still am not having any issues related to this other than tenderness at the main injury site, no, I didn’t. Not saying that’s the right choice, but if I did anything further, like slightly crack my orbital bone, there is nothing else a doctor will do other than recommend ice, ibuprofen, and avoidance of contact to the area (we have had this issue in the household due to sports injuries twice before).
08/12/2018 11:07PM
pswith5: "glad you are ok. On a silly note; did anyone think you looked like a pirate in your canoe?"
Sort of, my son kept telling me to find a purple marker so I could add color to the good eye and look like a girl doing her makeup for the first time.
08/13/2018 12:33AM
I have to say it sounds like you might well have experienced a concussion. Loss of consciousness, headache, ringing in the ears, dizziness- all symptoms of concussion.
Nobody exists on purpose, nobody belongs anywhere, everybody’s going to die.
08/13/2018 02:38AM
It is amazing how quickly a slip can turn into something more serious. And hitting our heads on a rock can be anywhere from mild to deadly. Glad you are ok. However, I second the thought that you may have had a concussion. Mentioning it to your doctor might be worthwhile, if only to keep track of it for the future.
08/13/2018 04:37AM
naturboy12: "Mocha: "curious if you visited your doctor when you got home? i would think any head injury such as yours might warrent a look-see. "
Since I wasn’t/still am not having any issues related to this other than tenderness at the main injury site, no, I didn’t. Not saying that’s the right choice, but if I did anything further, like slightly crack my orbital bone, there is nothing else a doctor will do other than recommend ice, ibuprofen, and avoidance of contact to the area (we have had this issue in the household due to sports injuries twice before). "
Well, it surprised me that you haven't had some level of medical attention. umm....how about doctor ruling out a blood clot or something to that effect. The body responds differently as we age.
@ yogi59weedr: "clown" is too kind a word.
“If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Sir Isaac Newton
08/13/2018 07:35AM
Banksiana: "I have to say it sounds like you might well have experienced a concussion. Loss of consciousness, headache, ringing in the ears, dizziness- all symptoms of concussion."
I was thinking the same thing! Since you said you've had expreience with this before with the kids, I was curious what made you dismiss a concussion? My son was diagnosed with one just last week with those same symptoms you had. Not that it matters at this point, since you;re doing fine (glad to hear). Just curious.
08/13/2018 09:34AM
I was in a car accident 4 1/2 years ago, only a small bump on the head. My memory of right before and after was fine, I did not black out and the medics on the scene thought I was OK. Concussion symptoms started nearly a week later and persist to this day. My life has changed immeasurably.
08/13/2018 12:51PM
newguy: "Oof. Where were you staying? We were on Brule from Wednesday the 8th through Sunday the 12th, and were up at Winchell fishing on Friday the 10th. "
We were on the western end of Gaskin until the morning of Aug 8th and then moved to Meeds for a few more days after that. The fall happened in the morning on Tuesday Aug 7th.
08/13/2018 12:53PM
Seems like your 1% has happened to at least 2% so the rest of us should be ok. Haha. Thanks for taking one for the team. Haha.
Yes, yes... If this happens a quick doctor visit on your return never hurts... Well, until you get the bill. Haha. But seriously it could have long term effects.
Yes, yes... If this happens a quick doctor visit on your return never hurts... Well, until you get the bill. Haha. But seriously it could have long term effects.
Nctry
08/13/2018 02:24PM
You are all some persistent people, but if I didn't value your advice, the next paragraph wouldn't be happening.
I have a Dr checkup scheduled for tomorrow. They are most concerned about the length of time from my last tetanus shot and will likely be giving me a booster since I had cuts/scrapes exposed to the dirt of the outdoors for a few days. As I'm past the "acute" phase for concussions, they aren't concerned about that unless of course I would start having symptoms. They will also be checking out my orbital bone to make sure I have no fractures.
I have a Dr checkup scheduled for tomorrow. They are most concerned about the length of time from my last tetanus shot and will likely be giving me a booster since I had cuts/scrapes exposed to the dirt of the outdoors for a few days. As I'm past the "acute" phase for concussions, they aren't concerned about that unless of course I would start having symptoms. They will also be checking out my orbital bone to make sure I have no fractures.
08/13/2018 04:33PM
I had an incident where I was slipping and was trying to regain my balance on a slick rock surface that was at a good 45 degree incline. As I was getting closer and closer towards the water , with my arms and legs flailing away...I realized that there were some very large rocks with sharp corners awaiting me and most likely cause injury. I managed to get myself ( at the last possible moment) to a position that I could leap out beyond the edge of the rockline/shoreline and upon doing so, I managed a half passed cannonball. My kids who were 20 feet away but just out of eyesight, didn't understand why I felt the need to jump in the lake when it was raining.
I got real lucky on that one!
I got real lucky on that one!
I couldn't wait for success, so I went ahead without it!
08/13/2018 05:46PM
It can happen anywhere.
Friend tripped over a curb in a parking lot and ending shattering a bunch of bones in her ankle.
Another fell off a bike a couple years ago and wiped out her ankle. She is now spending the summer recovering from artificial ankle surgery (didn't know they did that)
I saw a lady hobbling up to the post office. Fell off the riding lawn mower and really did a number to her hip.
I was jumping off my tractor in a back field into a old plow furrow that was grassed over and sprained the hell out of my ankle a few years ago.... hard to walk in a dairy barn with the bucket and black bag when a guy can hardly walk
in the bwca...seems like getting stuff in/out of canoe when water levels are low is when it is a great time to do a number of yourself.
dr bob
Friend tripped over a curb in a parking lot and ending shattering a bunch of bones in her ankle.
Another fell off a bike a couple years ago and wiped out her ankle. She is now spending the summer recovering from artificial ankle surgery (didn't know they did that)
I saw a lady hobbling up to the post office. Fell off the riding lawn mower and really did a number to her hip.
I was jumping off my tractor in a back field into a old plow furrow that was grassed over and sprained the hell out of my ankle a few years ago.... hard to walk in a dairy barn with the bucket and black bag when a guy can hardly walk
in the bwca...seems like getting stuff in/out of canoe when water levels are low is when it is a great time to do a number of yourself.
dr bob
Dr Bob
08/13/2018 07:22PM
All of this advice to go see a doctor is well intended. I played Junior hockey in the USHL after high school, then played 4 years of College hockey out east. I have been diagnosed with 3 confirmed concussions, and plenty more that weren't (puking on the bench, then going out for the next shift feeling like the rink was tilted). If you have had a concussion in the past, what can a doctor really do? Serious question.
08/13/2018 09:54PM
There are specific instructions for care that a doctor or trained medical professional will issue to prevent further damage and ensure a healthy recovery. It's worth the visit and follow-up.
"It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.”
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