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Elydog
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10/22/2018 06:53AM  
Thoughts? Looks pretty awesome to me (though I would want a lid...)
https://www.bearminimum.org/
 
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10/22/2018 08:45AM  
I wouldn't have much use for it, but others may.
 
10/22/2018 09:18AM  
It isn't expensive, Elydog. Why not buy it, test it, and give us a report with pros and cons?
 
10/22/2018 09:52AM  
I would have loved to see how the Sharks reacted to it. Wonder when the last time was any of them slept outdoors on the ground, or even in a hotel that cost less than $500 a night?

I'm not really getting what it's advantage is. It's not meant for open flames, so doesn't work well as a survival tool. The smallest one weighs the same as a small Mors pot, and a bit more than a titanium pot, which come with lids and could hold whatever stove you bring. I give them high points for creativity and design, but I'm not seeing the benefit.

 
thebotanyguy
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10/22/2018 12:11PM  
A cooking pot that folds flat is an advantage because ?????

A regular cooking pot is stuffed full of things when packed for transport, so there is actually no wasted space. There is no advantage for the flat storage that I can see.

Square corners in a cooking pot is a bad idea for even cooking. There is a reason cooking pots are rounded - it's easier to stir for even cooking.
 
10/22/2018 01:19PM  
First thought- Being square could be a pain getting everything out off it with a utensil. Round pots or bowels don't have little corners food can hide in.
 
em8260
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10/22/2018 01:44PM  
ill pass..
 
dex8425
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10/22/2018 03:48PM  
Yeah, that'd be really hard to clean, especially with my finger and a tiny bit of biodegradable soap back in the woods.

Also, it weighs more than my titanium pot and my pot holds my cook kit (stove, lighter, utensils, windscreen, and fuel) so the folding aspect doesn't really help me that much.
 
andym
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10/22/2018 03:52PM  
Seems like I'm going to agree with most of the points above.

On the good side, you can unfold it to clean out the corners. On the bad side, you will need to unfold it because stuff will be stuck in the corners. Also it is not recommended for cooking over a fire and will waste fuel because of the lack of a top. And I'm generally not in favor of anything that an animal might easily bite through and create a hole. Had that happen to some silicone bowls. Similarly, we have some fold up bowls but always wind up taking our hard plastic ones.

I agree that the space inside my pots is not wasted. Things are nested inside them very efficiently. Get rid of that and those things are now loose.

I can see that in some emergency situations it could be handy but in those I would want to be able to use it over a fire. Which you can try but it isn't recommended to be done over and over again. So, I guess you could use it that way in a ditch kit.
 
BuckFlicks
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10/22/2018 04:20PM  
Neat gimmick, but not practical, methinks. I like new ways of thinking about old outdoor gear, so I applaud the inventor for that kind of thinking. But I think overall for me the cons outweigh the pros.

I looked at the FAQ on their website and it said it's not meant to cook over an open flame. Uhhh... what other kind of heat sources are there in the outdoors? Camp stoves are all flame-based. I'm not being snarky... I don't understand the distinction. Maybe they mean the sides aren't made to withstand open flames that may creep up, where the bottom is more durable and cook stoves are more focused and aren't likely to spread flame up the sides?

My cook pot weighs less than that, and it holds my stove, knife, lighter, kitchen towel, and spoon. Someone else mentioned the same...

I do like the collapsible bowl/plate things. I have a couple sets of those and they're pretty handy.
 
BuckFlicks
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10/22/2018 04:33PM  
Ah... I see a picture of one in the wild... apparently, it sits on a metal plate which interecepts the flames from the burner and distributes it to the "pot."

Seems like that would be inefficient.
 
Savage Voyageur
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10/22/2018 06:55PM  
A titanium pot is just as light and way more durable, practical, you can use Titanium on a fire. Most of all the stove and fuel tank with a lid tops it off so zero wasted space. Sorry but I would not even consider this for anything but a couple of miles from home. The woods tend to weed out the sick gear pretty fast.
 
10/23/2018 06:29AM  
Maybe for a car survival kit? But I don't get the no open flame thing.
 
10/23/2018 10:01AM  
Looks like a food number of folks here see it the same way I did above, but I'll point out two things for y'all to ponder.

1- REI has several collapsible bowls and cook wear items, mostly fro Sea to Summit, and I saw some folding bowls at Midwest Mountaneering once. Somebody out there must think flatness is a virtue or they wouldn't make the shelf space.

2- I looked up how the show went. The Sharks liked it, one offered $100$ for 33% of the company, and another offered $100k for 20%, which is what they were asking.

I think Ausable is on the right track. They are cheap, so someone should try them. Maybe Adam could open the forum purse and get a couple to give away as prizes for photo or trip report contests?
 
BuckFlicks
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10/23/2018 12:06PM  
I think the issue is that those who would be likely to find this foldable concept most useful are backpackers. If you're car camping, there's no need to fold it down. And if you're carrying your gear, a titanium pot for a similar price is more durable, has a lid, can sit on open flame, and when filled with stuff takes up the same amount of pack space as this contraption. At less weight for the same pack space and more versatility, the titanium pot wins every time for me (a backpacker.)

A foldable bowl presents more advantages than disadvantages to me, unlike this cook pot.

I agree, that they are on the right track... reduce the weight, make it a little more sturdy where open flame is concerned, and make a lid, and I'll give it some consideration.



 
awdriven
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10/25/2018 06:57PM  
Their own FAQ says that if you over-temp the pot, it will leach materials. I stay away from PTFE (Teflon) cookware and this is made of PTFE-coated fiberglass. I'd think that with the flexing, that the coating would be even more likely to crack and shed into your food. Do your own research and decide.
 
andym
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10/25/2018 10:03PM  
Jaywalker: "
1- REI has several collapsible bowls and cook wear items, mostly fro Sea to Summit, and I saw some folding bowls at Midwest Mountaneering once. Somebody out there must think flatness is a virtue or they wouldn't make the shelf space.
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REI used to sell chopsticks that unscrewed in the middle. I’m trying to imagine the pack where that was necessary to fit them in. Sometimes shelf space at REI just means it will sell as a cute gift. But I’m sure some people like the stuff that folds flat. I was intrigued by the Sea to Summit bowls and tried them. I just didn’t stick with them after a mouse or squirrel nibbled some holes in them. But I haven’t heard anyone else having that problem.
 
mjmkjun
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10/31/2018 07:04PM  
wonder what the thing would look like after a few camp meals. looks like an Easter basket and about as useful.
 
brotherbear
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11/04/2018 04:30PM  
I got one as a Christmas present 2 years ago...have not found a time to use it yet...there are just too many better options out there.
 
straighthairedcurly
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02/10/2019 01:00AM  
I think they are a better idea for a bug-out bag than for serious camping. The shape makes it possible to just slip in a pocket which could have its role at times.

I got one just to try it. The snap that held one side kept popping open and dumping the contents. Fortunately that just meant 32 oz of water splashed across the kitchen floor not my dinner dumped in the dirt. Always test the gear before the trip, eh. I had to return it.
 
Flashback
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02/10/2019 09:23AM  
Looks like an overpriced, gimmicky, gadget to me.

If you're patient, and frequent thrift stores, resale shops, or yard/garage sales; you might find one for sale for a buck or two, in a couple of years. That's likely where the majority of them will end up, or in a land fill.

I wouldn't give two bucks for a brand new one right now.



 
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