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Beaverjack

01/05/2011 09:49PM

I'm not satisfied with any of my frying pans. The Titanium one is too small for big fish. The 10" cast aluminum dutch oven does a great job, but is cumbersome to tote around. I've tried anodized aluminum, but the folding handle tore up the frying surface. What is THE WAY TO GO in this area, because I really haven't found it yet.

You cannot hope too much or dare too much. - R.W. Emerson

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ubbenholdthekraut

01/05/2011 09:58PM

Go with a frying pan conversion.

There is a good thread about it on Quietjourney.com

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mc2mens

01/05/2011 10:16PM

quote ubbenholdthekraut: "Go with a frying pan conversion. There is a good thread about it on Quietjourney.com"

I would guess there are some good ones here too.

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PortageKeeper

01/05/2011 11:33PM

quote Beaverjack: "I'm not satisfied with any of my frying pans. The Titanium one is too small for big fish. The 10" cast aluminum dutch oven does a great job, but is cumbersome to tote around. I've tried anodized aluminum, but the folding handle tore up the frying surface. What is THE WAY TO GO in this area, because I really haven't found it yet."

I've chosen to just bring one of Walmarts cheapest large fry pans and just throw it out at trips end.
Take the handle off and bring a pot grabber.

“The more you know, the less you carry” Mors Kochanski

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The Lorax

01/06/2011 04:20AM

Take a look at the heavier gauge GSI 10" aluminum fry pan (I believe the model is called the Bugaboo or something like that) at Gander Mtn or similar stores. It sells for about $28. It's got the non stick surface, but is also thick enough to disperse heat. Then go to Walmart in the cooking section and by a $3 lid for it.

With plates stacked inside, lid on top and the handle folded down, you take care of the problem plus have storage for your camp plates. I even set coals on the aluminum lid while cooking over coals and bake with it.

I love the smell of silnylon in the morning. It smells like........victory!

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Beaverjack

01/06/2011 05:39AM

Amazing that no one produces a good 10" cast aluminium frying pan with a folding handle.

You cannot hope too much or dare too much. - R.W. Emerson

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snakecharmer

01/06/2011 05:56AM

Walmart. $10-$12. Good for 3-4 years of camping, then I buy a new one.

"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after"
~ Henry David Thoreau

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Humdinger

01/06/2011 06:25AM

quote snakecharmer: "Walmart. $10-$12. Good for 3-4 years of camping, then I buy a new one.

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I saw similar Coleman pans like this on clearance at Target recently.

Otherwise find a stouter fry pan with a screw off handle and disassemble it.

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thlipsis29

01/06/2011 08:36AM

You really can't go wrong with cast iron. I know it's heavy and you need to season it properly, but I've never once been disappointed with it. Granted, our group base camps so weight isn't as critical as it might be for others. There was a thread a year or two ago on cast iron that was pretty informative, but I don't have the time to look for it now.

"While Jesus can make you wonderfully happy, he has no intention of making you normal." Erwin McManus

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Bannock

01/06/2011 11:37AM

quote Beaverjack: "Amazing that no one produces a good 10" cast aluminium frying pan with a folding handle. "

My buddy has the Coleman Frying Pan and it works very well for us.

In my solo kit I have a pan I purchased at Walmart (T-Fall?) and removed its handle.

Bannock

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SevenofNine

01/06/2011 11:54AM

quote snakecharmer: "Walmart. $10-$12. Good for 3-4 years of camping, then I buy a new one.

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Brand name? Thanks.

The best part of this journey here is further knowing yourself - Alan Kay

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tony

01/06/2011 12:18PM

quote Beaverjack: "Amazing that no one produces a good 10" cast aluminium frying pan with a folding handle. "

Here is one a little bigger with a removable handle. Cast fry pan Kind of heavy though

tony

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Troutman

01/06/2011 12:55PM

I agree with the cast iron pan. Nothing cooks as well over a fire, and clean up is by far the easiest, just hot water. I will also take a cast iron dutch oven on occasion.

"If dogs don't go to heaven then when I die I want to go where they are" Will Rogers

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Amok

01/06/2011 01:08PM

quote SevenofNine: "
quote snakecharmer: "Walmart. $10-$12. Good for 3-4 years of camping, then I buy a new one.

"

Brand name? Thanks."

Probably the $10 coleman. I've got one too. I even picked mine up at Wal-mart, lol

Trust, but verify. The Lord will provide !!!!

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nctry

01/06/2011 01:22PM

I like my GSI 10" frypan. The non stick is very non stick... The heat disperses pretty well. The only thing is after I bought it I noticed the packaging warned against cooking over the fire. That disappointed me.

Nctry

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KevinL

01/06/2011 03:40PM

10" GSI hard anodized aluminum Dutch Oven.

Yes it weighs 3 pounds 10 oz but you can use the lid as a fry pan, bake, cook, deep fry fish, and do your dishes all from one pot.

I'm glad I got it. Very easy to clean also.

KevinL

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inspector13

01/06/2011 06:02PM

I too have the 10” Colman fry pan that is pictured. I bought it around 11 years ago at Target. I used it at least two full weeks a year. Last year the coating started to flake off, but for the price it was worth it.

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snakecharmer

01/06/2011 06:50PM

quote SevenofNine: "
quote snakecharmer: "Walmart. $10-$12. Good for 3-4 years of camping, then I buy a new one.

"

Brand name? Thanks."

It's a Coleman.

"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after"
~ Henry David Thoreau

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Rob Johnson

01/06/2011 06:58PM

I've chosen to just bring one of Walmarts cheapest large fry pans and just throw it out at trips end.
Take the handle off and bring a pot grabber."

I took that advice 2 years ago and it has worked out great. The pan is light weight but thick enough to distribute the heat evenly. The only difference is that I don't throw mine out. It has gone on 2 canoe trips, and 3 family car camps.

I always wondered why somebody didn't do something about that. Then I realized I am somebody. Lily Tomlin

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TriTodd

01/06/2011 07:08PM

quote snakecharmer: "Walmart. $10-$12. Good for 3-4 years of camping, then I buy a new one.

"

I've been using this same Coleman fry pan with the folding handle on trips for about 4 years now, too. It works great, and it didn't cost very much. Allows me to use my money on other things that cost more than I want to pay.

My MSR pan is just too small to fry fish in. The 10" is the perfect size for me. As always, enjoy your camping!

Life is about being outside enjoying God's world...

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Traveler

01/06/2011 09:15PM

10" cast iron for me. Get one at a flee market for about 10 bucks and it will last forever.

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Humdinger

01/07/2011 06:35AM

quote snakecharmer: "Walmart. $10-$12. Good for 3-4 years of camping, then I buy a new one.

"

Side question SC - where do you buy that wind deflector and cost?

I'm thinking of buying or building a folding one like that.

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Humdinger

01/07/2011 06:39AM

quote nctry: "

I like my GSI 10" frypan. The non stick is very non stick... The heat disperses pretty well. The only thing is after I bought it I noticed the packaging warned against cooking over the fire. That disappointed me."

Another side ? - who makes that grate and cost?

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TriTodd

01/07/2011 09:09AM

quote Humdinger: "
quote snakecharmer: "Walmart. $10-$12. Good for 3-4 years of camping, then I buy a new one.

"

Side question SC - where do you buy that wind deflector and cost?

I'm thinking of buying or building a folding one like that."

I have two reflector shields by MSR. They work great, but they are designed by size to work with smaller pots, but, can be used together and go completey around a 10" fry pan if you need. MSR reflector shield.

Life is about being outside enjoying God's world...

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billconner

01/07/2011 10:45AM

quote Humdinger: "
quote snakecharmer: "Walmart. $10-$12. Good for 3-4 years of camping, then I buy a new one.

"

Side question SC - where do you buy that wind deflector and cost?

I'm thinking of buying or building a folding one like that."

Dare I say try Google?
folding windscreen

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BWPaddler

01/07/2011 10:54AM

quote inspector13: "I too have the 10” Colman fry pan that is pictured. I bought it around 11 years ago at Target. I used it at least two full weeks a year. Last year the coating started to flake off, but for the price it was worth it."

My coating flaked off immediately and I returned it.

What do you use a fry pan for, and how many people on the trip? I switched to bringing a griddle and I love it. Overkill for solo, but with three kids it's perfect and easy to store in a pack. I can do any kind of meal on it (eggs, pancakes, grilled ham/cheese, garlic bread, pizza, etc. etc.). Fits perfectly on my 2 burner Expedition stove, or the fire grate.

Wherever there is a channel for water, there is a road for the canoe. -Thoreau

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Bannock

01/07/2011 01:29PM

I like Campmor for many items.

This is what I use for a grate when I bring one.

Here's a similar windscreen to the one asked about.

Bannock

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Beaverjack

01/07/2011 04:09PM

My frypan is losing its coating too, after only a couple trips. I also have the GSI 10" dutch oven. Just a little too cumbersome and awkward. A 10" skillet and lid of the same cast material, with a folding handle would be perfect.

You cannot hope too much or dare too much. - R.W. Emerson

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Humdinger

01/07/2011 06:41PM

quote Beaverjack: "My frypan is losing its coating too, after only a couple trips. I also have the GSI 10" dutch oven. Just a little too cumbersome and awkward. A 10" skillet and lid of the same cast material, with a folding handle would be perfect."

Look for an older "chicken fryer". They are similar to a dutch oven except its a deep fry pan with a shallow fry pan lid or just a domed lid. Cast iron is easy to find and I have an old one in aluminum at my cabin so they exist.

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Miami1

01/07/2011 08:08PM

Got my windscreen from campmore about 12 years ago and I love it.
Anthony

searching for a 22 inch smallmouth

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Voyageur

01/08/2011 09:22AM

Like a lot of others said, I use a cheap Walmart Al kitchen no stick pan. I bought it as a disposable item and have used it for 6 years now. You can remove the handle and make your own removable conversion or leave the handle on depending on how you pack. I have one of each depending on crew size. I use 12" normally but have found a14" pan that is great for crews of 6 or more. I take cheap paper plates and use them as a scratch barrier between all my nested pots and the frying pan. This perserves the no stick surface longer. Also I only use wood or nylon implements with the cook set.

Remember this is fun... and your having it.

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Voyageur

01/08/2011 09:52AM

quote thlipsis29: "You really can't go wrong with cast iron. I know it's heavy and you need to season it properly, but I've never once been disappointed with it. Granted, our group base camps so weight isn't as critical as it might be for others. There was a thread a year or two ago on cast iron that was pretty informative, but I don't have the time to look for it now."

Cast iron really depends on the type of trip.
We used cast iron for years river tripping before going to the BWCA. Our first trip with cast iron was our last trip with cast iron. If you travel a lot or single portage avoid it. If you base camp it is great.

Remember this is fun... and your having it.

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wtgmonkey

01/08/2011 09:58AM

I use a cast aluminum griddle. I also use a wire type fish basket. The fish taste better with some olive oil from the griddle but the fish from the basket is good too. The basket offers no dishes to wash as it can be stuck in the fire and burned clean. The griddle can be no dishes also when combined with aluminum foil. I find this style to use less oil then normal frying as well.

Since I take 2 single burner stoves (1 as a backup if a small group) I can use the griddle over both burners in a fire ban. A lot of our evening meals are fish in foil on one side and taters and onions in foil on the other.

"Champions are measured by the adversity they overcome"

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Woodtick

01/08/2011 10:18AM

quote tony: "
quote Beaverjack: "Amazing that no one produces a good 10" cast aluminium frying pan with a folding handle. "
Here is one a little bigger with a removable handle. Cast fry pan Kind of heavy though

tony"

Has anyone tried this aluminum frying pan? Like? Dislike?

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billconner

01/08/2011 11:03AM

quote Woodtick: "
quote tony: "
quote Beaverjack: "Amazing that no one produces a good 10" cast aluminium frying pan with a folding handle. "
Here is one a little bigger with a removable handle. Cast fry pan Kind of heavy though

tony"

Has anyone tried this aluminum frying pan? Like? Dislike?"

Yes. Search for thread on square frying pan. Bought 6 for Scout troop in the fall.I have not taken it to boundary waters yet but have used it at home. Only fry pan some outfitters provide. We like them for size and deep sides.

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billconner

01/08/2011 01:29PM

here you go

square fry pan thread

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TriTodd

01/08/2011 01:55PM

quote Beaverjack: "My frypan is losing its coating too, after only a couple trips. I also have the GSI 10" dutch oven. Just a little too cumbersome and awkward. A 10" skillet and lid of the same cast material, with a folding handle would be perfect."

I started a thread about a rectangular fry pan I saw in and advertisement. Here is a link to the results from others postings.

Rectangular fry pan with folding handle.

Life is about being outside enjoying God's world...

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nctry

01/08/2011 09:02PM

quote Humdinger: "
quote nctry: "

I like my GSI 10" frypan. The non stick is very non stick... The heat disperses pretty well. The only thing is after I bought it I noticed the packaging warned against cooking over the fire. That disappointed me."

Another side ? - who makes that grate and cost?"

Nctry

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nctry

01/08/2011 09:02PM

quote Humdinger: "
quote nctry: "

I like my GSI 10" frypan. The non stick is very non stick... The heat disperses pretty well. The only thing is after I bought it I noticed the packaging warned against cooking over the fire. That disappointed me."

Another side ? - who makes that grate and cost?"

It's an Artic Fox EZ Roll up grill. Just happened to have one at Spring Creek Outfitters and Chuck had me try it out when I went to the WCPP. We don't know where it came from or what it goes for. I believe they are/were made in Mpls. I'm checking if they are manufacturing them anymore and will start a thread on it if and when I get that information. It worked well to raise pots from the stove and pot stability. Also small stick fires...

Nctry

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ZIMTLSA

01/08/2011 10:10PM

We use a virtually flat Alum. fry pan for most of our cooking. Packs well, light weight and can be used for eggs, pancakes, hashbrowns, fish, poatatos etc.. Oh yeah, works for steak also.
Todd

Semper Fi

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tobiedog

01/08/2011 10:35PM

I've had some guys try to talk me out of anything with a teflon coat on it. They say it's scary chemicals. I have some with teflon flaking off. Are you supposed to throw them away when this happens?

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thlipsis29

01/08/2011 10:40PM

Yep. There is data to suggest that the ingestion of Teflon is not good for the human body. I know one of the head chefs at Mayo Clinic tells people not even to bother with Teflon coated pans. He suggests stainless steel or cast iron.

"While Jesus can make you wonderfully happy, he has no intention of making you normal." Erwin McManus

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PineKnot

01/08/2011 10:41PM

quote tobiedog: "I've had some guys try to talk me out of anything with a teflon coat on it. They say it's scary chemicals. I have some with teflon flaking off. Are you supposed to throw them away when this happens?"

Depends. How old are you? :-)

Do what you can, with what you have, where you are -- Teddy Roosevelt

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Beaverjack

01/09/2011 08:12AM

The one on Piragis' site looks good, a bit heavy, but certainly will handle big fish and pack easily. I think I'll order one and see if I like it. Thanks for the help folks.

You cannot hope too much or dare too much. - R.W. Emerson

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Amok

01/09/2011 09:30AM

quote tobiedog: "I've had some guys try to talk me out of anything with a teflon coat on it. They say it's scary chemicals. I have some with teflon flaking off. Are you supposed to throw them away when this happens?"

Yes. Once the teflon starts to go, throw it out.

Some will also say that any aluminum pan is at least as dangerous as a 'failed' teflon pan.

Trust, but verify. The Lord will provide !!!!

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wtgmonkey

01/09/2011 09:39AM

Mine is Teflon covered aluminum. I guess using it for cooking food is like "playing with fire"

"Champions are measured by the adversity they overcome"

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Amok

01/09/2011 10:46AM

lol! nope. not until the teflon fails.

Trust, but verify. The Lord will provide !!!!

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Beaverjack

01/11/2011 01:26PM

The key with cast aluminum (no teflon) is to use plastic utensils only. My ex mother-in-law used metal on her cast aluminum rice pot and cooked with it about every day. She ended up with severe dymentia, but is still alive at 85.

You cannot hope too much or dare too much. - R.W. Emerson

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mjmkjun

01/11/2011 02:17PM

Mais. Aluminum was once thought to cause alzheimers/dementia. This has been disproven. Actually, it's more correct to state it's not been proven by any of the clinical/lab testings that were conducted.
Teflon, on the other hand, over a very hot wood fire gives off chemical fumes and begins to break down. Doesn't apply to heat of the small, packable camp stoves if I recall the article correctly.

“If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Sir Isaac Newton

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butthead

01/11/2011 02:18PM

quote tobiedog: "I've had some guys try to talk me out of anything with a teflon coat on it. They say it's scary chemicals. I have some with teflon flaking off. Are you supposed to throw them away when this happens?"

Teflon heated past 500 degrees gives of toxic gasses, aluminum is associated with age dementia. The amount of danger posed is questionable. I use nether for household cooking myself, but would for camp use. That said I found commercial grade pizza pans make good griddles/fry pans, from pancakes to fried fish.

butthead

"never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" George Carlin

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dsk

01/11/2011 02:34PM

Take a look at this:
http://tinyurl.com/ch4d82
It is not a joke. It is really great.
dsk

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ubbenholdthekraut

01/11/2011 03:43PM

Or try this one:

Ikea- W/Folding handle

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Amok

01/11/2011 04:40PM

quote mjmkjun: "Mais. Aluminum was once thought to cause alzheimers/dementia. This has been disproven. Actually, it's more correct to state it's not been proven by any of the clinical/lab testings that were conducted.
...
<<<
Yes, it has not been proven. But my grandparents ALSO used aluminum for years and she had dementia the final 4 years of her life. So I'm not going to say that aluminum has no detrimental effects on a person. It didn't kill her, it just took her mind away ... imo.

And any study that says "X does Y" will have another study within 6 months contradicting said findings. So .... believe what you want to believe, it's all relative.

Trust, but verify. The Lord will provide !!!!

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Amok

01/11/2011 04:44PM

ok. THAT reply looks weird. opps.

Trust, but verify. The Lord will provide !!!!

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Beaverjack

01/11/2011 04:46PM

Here's a cast aluminum grill griddle, less than a pound, no teflon, and it's on sale!

Cast Alum Grill

You cannot hope too much or dare too much. - R.W. Emerson

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TriTodd

01/11/2011 05:41PM

quote tobiedog: "I've had some guys try to talk me out of anything with a teflon coat on it. They say it's scary chemicals. I have some with teflon flaking off. Are you supposed to throw them away when this happens?"

I remember seeing Dupont discuss their Teflon product on 60 minutes. It was discussed that at higher heats, there are chemicals released that can cause temporary flu like symptoms. I usually never cook anything on high heat except when boiling water. And being out in a campsite, I'd say I was pretty safe.

I've added a link from Dupont's Q/A. Dupont Teflon Q/A.

I have also read articles about relation between aluminum and breast cancer. Studies showing the link and increase due to women shaving their armpits and the absorbtion of aluminum from the applied anti perspirant afterwards. I use an aluminum free deoderant that works great and is unscented by Tom's which can be found at a lot of HBA departments.

Life is about being outside enjoying God's world...

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dsk

01/12/2011 03:44AM

quote dsk: "Take a look at this:
http://tinyurl.com/ch4d82
It is not a joke. It is really great.
dsk"

Ikea 200 gram fry pan $3

This pan has seriously been tested in a lo cost backpack project, and it quit light weight 200 grams or 7 OZ.

Pre's:
*Low cost
*Relatively solid.
*Good nonstick coating.
*Good heat transport.
Cons:
*Not foldable.
*Not super light weight.

This pan in the Norwegian magazine Friluftsliv ("Outdoor life ")

dsk

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buz

01/12/2011 07:52AM

Bjack,

that is a nice looking grill for that price, but look carefully at the size, it is pretty small. Fine for 1-2 people, much more and you are cooking lots of batches.

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kbamg1

Guest Paddler

01/12/2011 08:50PM

Hey Beaverjack,
I have used the square aluminum frypan that I purchased from the Boundary Waters Journal tradingpost 4 years ago. It has worked very well for my family trips. The sides are deep enough for frying fish and making dinners, and it is light enough that it doesn't break your back. We use plastic utensils and have never had a problem.
I think the question of aluminum vs cast iron would depend greatly on the type of traveling you do. There is no question that the weight is different. I learned long ago that no-stick surfaces don't do well in the type of situations they are put through in the BWCA (or most other outdoor types of cooking).
Good luck in your search!

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Humdinger

01/13/2011 06:32AM

quote Beaverjack: "The key with cast aluminum (no teflon) is to use plastic utensils only. My ex mother-in-law used metal on her cast aluminum rice pot and cooked with it about every day. She ended up with severe dymentia, but is still alive at 85. "

Side comment - I would say that is normal aging dementia more than aluminum cooking. My father started having Alzheimer signs before age 65, confirmed at 70, and eventually died at age 75. My mother used cast iron and stainless steel cookware. Family history is a big factor and preventing it with mental & physical conditioning goes a long way. My paternal grandmother had Alzheimers so I know whats in my cards and hope medical science makes advances in the next 25 years.
Unitl then, work out, read, but I won't worry about my aluminum BWCA cookware for the limited exposure.

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Beaverjack

01/13/2011 06:48AM

quote Humdinger: "
quote Beaverjack: "The key with cast aluminum (no teflon) is to use plastic utensils only. My ex mother-in-law used metal on her cast aluminum rice pot and cooked with it about every day. She ended up with severe dymentia, but is still alive at 85. "

Side comment - I would say that is normal aging dementia more than aluminum cooking. My father started having Alzheimer signs before age 65, confirmed at 70, and eventually died at age 75. My mother used cast iron and stainless steel cookware. Family history is a big factor and preventing it with mental & physical conditioning goes a long way. My paternal grandmother had Alzheimers so I know whats in my cards and hope medical science makes advances in the next 25 years.
Unitl then, work out, read, but I won't worry about my aluminum BWCA cookware for the limited exposure. "

Me neither. I ordered the BWJ Aluminum Fry Pan. A little bigger than I wanted, but I guess I'll just fish for bigger fish!

Whodda thunk a thread about frying pans would get 59 reponses?

You cannot hope too much or dare too much. - R.W. Emerson

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wm5

01/14/2011 10:19AM

i usually just buy a used light fry pan at a garage sale to use , nothing to nice since it will get beat on.

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Royce

01/14/2011 06:46PM

I found that coleman frying pan at Target on clearance for $5

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overthehill

01/14/2011 09:33PM

quote TriTodd: "
quote Beaverjack: "My frypan is losing its coating too, after only a couple trips. I also have the GSI 10" dutch oven. Just a little too cumbersome and awkward. A 10" skillet and lid of the same cast material, with a folding handle would be perfect."

I started a thread about a rectangular fry pan I saw in and advertisement. Here is a link to the results from others postings. Rectangular fry pan with folding handle. "

I like the looks of this (except for the grill ridges on the bottom).I agree with some other posts;' cast iron is best' and cast aluminum second. Even with the perfect bed of coals or the most even spreading stove....the heavier the better. I have yet to find a way around it. The closest I've come is the 'Superior Quetico Dutch Oven' which is a 3" deep rectangular fryer (maybe 8" X 15" and fits a coleman 2 burner suitcase perfect although I don't tote one to BW) and a lid that doubles as a griddle at 1/2" deep. Heavy cast aluminum.(After smoked up it looks just like cast iron). The minimalist or backpacker would scream, "no way!" and even though we basecamp mostly I don't consider it worth the weight unless there are at least 4 hungry campers who love to eat hot food all at the same time.

Not to Hurry-Not to Worry

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Birdknowsbest

04/18/2017 08:22PM

quote KevinL: "10" GSI hard anodized aluminum Dutch Oven.

Yes it weighs 3 pounds 10 oz but you can use the lid as a fry pan, bake, cook, deep fry fish, and do your dishes all from one pot.

I'm glad I got it. Very easy to clean also.

"

Will it fit on a MSR dragonfly stove?

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KevinL

04/18/2017 08:33PM

quote Birdknowsbest: "
quote KevinL: "10" GSI hard anodized aluminum Dutch Oven.

Yes it weighs 3 pounds 10 oz but you can use the lid as a fry pan, bake, cook, deep fry fish, and do your dishes all from one pot.

I'm glad I got it. Very easy to clean also.

"

Will it fit on a MSR dragonfly stove?"

Yes the bag with all the stove parts will fit inside, and the oven will work with the stove.

KevinL

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