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05/07/2012 10:26AM
Camp chairs! I never imagined such a thing, but after reading about them here, I bought a couple and they're great.
A tarp. Again, I never imagined having a tarp on a canoe trip, but I have one now. I won't always use it, but I'll take it on some trips.
Plastics for smallmouth. I still haven't had much success with them, but I'm open to them now and will try them again this summer.
A couple canoeing buddies, one for this summer and one for next.
A better sense of the myriad canoes available, plus the impetus to buy a new canoe and go Kevlar.
How about you? What have you learned/acquired here?
A tarp. Again, I never imagined having a tarp on a canoe trip, but I have one now. I won't always use it, but I'll take it on some trips.
Plastics for smallmouth. I still haven't had much success with them, but I'm open to them now and will try them again this summer.
A couple canoeing buddies, one for this summer and one for next.
A better sense of the myriad canoes available, plus the impetus to buy a new canoe and go Kevlar.
How about you? What have you learned/acquired here?
I will paddle eternal, Kevlar and carbon.
05/07/2012 11:40AM
Well a picture is worth a thousand words to me and all of the pics of gear being used in a trip or at a campsite helped me immensly. Learned a lot about how to do a lake trip vs. the local river trips I was accustomed to. I've brought alot of it back home. Specifically portage packs instead of my hiking backpacks and the right way to portage.
05/07/2012 11:57AM
I think I have picked up many little tips and some good information. But you can do that on any website.
The value of bwca.com for me is in learning that you can actually form relationships with people you meet online. They will support you in times of crisis, pray for you when you need prayers, give you advice when you ask for it (and sometimes when you don't), give you a pat on the back when you deserve it, correct you when you are mistaken (usually quite politely, but not always), offer to loan you gear, take a trip with you, give you a ride or a place to stay. . . .and just generally care for you. Sincerely care for you.
That's a friend, isn't it? I have friends on the Internet.
To someone who is in their twenties, that probably doesn't seem odd at all, but to a conservatively-raised small-town woman in her mid-60's, that concept is, on many levels, quite remarkable.
I have friends here. That's what I've learned. And that knowledge is pure gold.
The value of bwca.com for me is in learning that you can actually form relationships with people you meet online. They will support you in times of crisis, pray for you when you need prayers, give you advice when you ask for it (and sometimes when you don't), give you a pat on the back when you deserve it, correct you when you are mistaken (usually quite politely, but not always), offer to loan you gear, take a trip with you, give you a ride or a place to stay. . . .and just generally care for you. Sincerely care for you.
That's a friend, isn't it? I have friends on the Internet.
To someone who is in their twenties, that probably doesn't seem odd at all, but to a conservatively-raised small-town woman in her mid-60's, that concept is, on many levels, quite remarkable.
I have friends here. That's what I've learned. And that knowledge is pure gold.
05/07/2012 11:59AM
- that there are other fanatics like meeeeeeee!
- that there are other good tents besides Timberlines
- concept of a ditch kit
- various safety scenarios
- it's OK to be a full time "innie", I'm in good company
- that there are other good tents besides Timberlines
- concept of a ditch kit
- various safety scenarios
- it's OK to be a full time "innie", I'm in good company
Wherever there is a channel for water, there is a road for the canoe. -Thoreau
05/07/2012 12:10PM
quote apugarcia: "... basketball nets for anchors..."
That's a big one, but also lots of recipes and route/lake advice. Also several gear threads have been helpful.
But it's hard to top interacting with a bunch of canoeing fanatics.
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
05/07/2012 12:17PM
quote cinna: "BTW...what's an "inne" ?"
Innie = a tent's "ground cloth" used inside the tent
Outtie = a tent's "ground cloth" used under the tent.
There are arguments both ways to which one is better. An "outtie" protects the underside of the tent's floor, keeping it clean and, in theory, protecting it from sharp objects, all while keeping water from leaching up through the floor fabric. The bad part about an outtie is if the ground cloth sticks out from under the tent, it can act like a rain catcher and trap water under your tent.
An "innie" is the same plastic (or whatever material) sheet that is normally placed under the tent, but it's placed inside the tent after the tent is erected. It acts like the last layer of protection if water leaches into the tent through the floor. The bad part here is you're resigned to the fact that water is going to get in the tent in the first place.
IMO, the only true method is to use both, but arguments can go both ways.
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
05/07/2012 12:21PM
Welcome to our crazy group, cinna! In no time you will feel like you fit in.
"innie" vs. "outie" is the constant debate about whether to put your plastic protective sheet underneath the tent or inside on the floor. People have definite preferences, and some odd folks like us even do both! LOL!
Oops. I see Jackfish beat me to the answer.
"innie" vs. "outie" is the constant debate about whether to put your plastic protective sheet underneath the tent or inside on the floor. People have definite preferences, and some odd folks like us even do both! LOL!
Oops. I see Jackfish beat me to the answer.
05/07/2012 12:39PM
To be honest, I haven't learned much more about the art of canoe tripping, but have gained a real appreciation for the wide variety of folks here who love the canoe country and canoe tripping. That's why I check out this site more than any other.
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.” -Edward Abbey
05/07/2012 12:48PM
I was an avid backpacker before, but completely green to the concept of canoe tripping. While there are lots of similarities, it is surprising how many differences there are. This site has been invaluable to my crossover.
"Once more unto the breach dear friends, once more."
05/07/2012 01:19PM
quote mc2mens: "too much to list all in one post..."
It would be faster for me to list the 4 or 5 things I didn't learn here
"...And the days I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, .......well, I have really good days". Ray Wiley Hubbard
05/07/2012 01:27PM
This is probably the one board with the greatest concentration of wilderness trippers compared to other forums
And gearheads! Now I won't look at a piece of gear unless I find recommendations here.
And I am always on the lookout for new menu ideas. And I do find them here.
And gearheads! Now I won't look at a piece of gear unless I find recommendations here.
And I am always on the lookout for new menu ideas. And I do find them here.
05/07/2012 02:39PM
1) Sawyer water filters
2) How to keep and spell leeches
3) be careful how you word a post (please don't be upset)
4) blue barrels for stashing vs. hanging (always a pain)
5) how to keep food cold
6) where to go (including places I don't care to go)
7) tons of laughs
8) many others also wet foot with wool socks and running shoes
9) portage etiquette
10)The boats with flying moose stickers hold friendly people :)
2) How to keep and spell leeches
3) be careful how you word a post (please don't be upset)
4) blue barrels for stashing vs. hanging (always a pain)
5) how to keep food cold
6) where to go (including places I don't care to go)
7) tons of laughs
8) many others also wet foot with wool socks and running shoes
9) portage etiquette
10)The boats with flying moose stickers hold friendly people :)
05/07/2012 03:11PM
Lots of info on fishing spots, lures and portages. Using an empty plastic gallon milk jug tied to the bow for a water container at camp, coffee in a tea filter for morning brews, foam piping on the gunnels to minimize leg scrapes during long paddles, a canvas remnant to keep fillets cool during the day.
Oh, and something about green poop! LMAO!
Oh, and something about green poop! LMAO!
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are -- Teddy Roosevelt
05/07/2012 03:32PM
Several tips on gear and places to go, etc. Most important is the capacity to share stories that trigger memories of BWCA/Quetico alive all year long and sharing those with others even though there is not campfire to sit around. Might be some of that camp coffee additive from time to time.
Also meeting people and looking forward to meeting more. Thanks all.
Also meeting people and looking forward to meeting more. Thanks all.
05/07/2012 04:31PM
quote OneMatch: "LIke Spartan2 and others: friends. Some incredibly special ones. Love that most of all."
What Jerry said. :)
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
05/07/2012 05:24PM
It's fun to get others thoughts before a big purchase.
One example:
Without others input I'd of bought the gravity filter that clogs more and with input I got one that can be back flushed to last longer.
And another plus to Spartan 2's post. It was very cool to have warm thoughts conveyed while going through the passing of my dad. And it's rewarding to me to be able to do the same to others.
Gear is gear and has a dollar value... Friendships like we have here are priceless.
Gonna miss the computer and this site when I'm gone so much.
One example:
Without others input I'd of bought the gravity filter that clogs more and with input I got one that can be back flushed to last longer.
And another plus to Spartan 2's post. It was very cool to have warm thoughts conveyed while going through the passing of my dad. And it's rewarding to me to be able to do the same to others.
Gear is gear and has a dollar value... Friendships like we have here are priceless.
Gonna miss the computer and this site when I'm gone so much.
Nctry
05/07/2012 07:33PM
The single best piece of gear I've ever taken is a Drift Sock.
WOW. I never knew what I was missing.
I also now take a lantern and a tarp. Things that rarely went 10 years ago. AND I now take some type of oven....either my Omnia or a reflector.
Speaking of my Omnia oven, check this out.
Wonder Pot
Later,
Geo
WOW. I never knew what I was missing.
I also now take a lantern and a tarp. Things that rarely went 10 years ago. AND I now take some type of oven....either my Omnia or a reflector.
Speaking of my Omnia oven, check this out.
Wonder Pot
Later,
Geo
05/07/2012 07:44PM
The special people I have been able to meet from this board has been a lot of fun! Adam, the Spartans 1&2, Satchmoa, Brad (Mooseplums), set-the-hook, paddlefasterpastorand more!! I am lookin, to try and meet more, this summer. It is difficult when you live so far away from the Wing nights.
Bruce
Bruce
Good Paddling, Great Fishing, and God Bless All...
05/07/2012 07:52PM
quote Arkansas Man: "The special people I have been able to meet from this board has been a lot of fun! Adam, the Spartans 1&2, Satchmoa, Brad (Mooseplums), set-the-hook, paddlefasterpastorand more!! I am lookin, to try and meet more, this summer. It is difficult when you live so far away from the Wing nights.
Bruce"
remember, let me know when youll be coming thru.
05/07/2012 09:56PM
Drift chute
Sitbacker
How to troll from a canoe
Sharing of solo anxieties
Many thoughts on equipment that helped me narrow my choices
Commiserating on aging
Sharing the loss of Gus, my dog
Sitbacker
How to troll from a canoe
Sharing of solo anxieties
Many thoughts on equipment that helped me narrow my choices
Commiserating on aging
Sharing the loss of Gus, my dog
The business of life is the acquisition of memories. In the end that's all there is. ___Mr Carson (Downton Abby)
05/08/2012 04:36AM
Canoe language and anatomy of canoes. Things like yoke, thwart, gunwales, trim, bow, stern, waterline, rocker, j stroke, c stroke, painter lines, hull, hull matsrials like kevlar, graphite, fiberglass, royalex, aluminum, wood and canvas, woodstrip. And so on and so on.
Tons about gear whether that be footwear, tarps, packs, tents, water filters or canoes and paddles.
Lots about tripping, how to trip, what to pack, where to go. Ive especially learned how to plan and route trips and am much better at figuring out where i can reasonably expect to make it on a day to day basis.
Tons about gear whether that be footwear, tarps, packs, tents, water filters or canoes and paddles.
Lots about tripping, how to trip, what to pack, where to go. Ive especially learned how to plan and route trips and am much better at figuring out where i can reasonably expect to make it on a day to day basis.
Richard "Bear" Brown
05/08/2012 06:32AM
quote GeoFisher: "The single best piece of gear I've ever taken is a Drift Sock.
WOW. I never knew what I was missing.
I also now take a lantern and a tarp. Things that rarely went 10 years ago. AND I now take some type of oven....either my Omnia or a reflector.
Speaking of my Omnia oven, check this out.
Wonder Pot
Later,
Geo"
Who knew that JMO's had been around since 1950's and invented in Israel? And with Jello roots from mid 1800's, I guess it took 100 years to figure it out.
05/08/2012 08:33AM
quote Jeriatric: "Drift chute
Sitbacker
How to troll from a canoe
Sharing of solo anxieties
Many thoughts on equipment that helped me narrow my choices
Commiserating on aging
Sharing the loss of Gus, my dog"
Yeah, it was cool to talk freely about growing old, wasn't it?
I will paddle eternal, Kevlar and carbon.
05/09/2012 04:25AM
More than one tarp (Tyvek)
BB net for an anchor
got some great,used gear from ewes people
BB net for an anchor
got some great,used gear from ewes people
Joy is a great teacher, but so is dispair. Wonder is a great teacher, but so is confusion. Hope is a great teacher, but so is disillusionment. And life is a great teacher, but so is death. To deny yourself any of those in any aspect is not experiencing life totally.
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