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03/03/2017 08:32PM
I bought some of this stuff because it was on sale at Amazon. I've used military Trioxane for a long time and I love it. The problem with Trioxane is, you can only get it from "war surplus" places and sometimes the life has been used up, you have to learn to look at the packages and know that it's still good. I've had this for a few months and finally used it tonight, it works great and I like it a lot. I don't sell this stuff, I'm not a company spokesman, just passing along the info.
"...And the days I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, .......well, I have really good days". Ray Wiley Hubbard
03/04/2017 01:58AM
I use the fire starters my daughter-in-law makes for me. She takes old candles melts them down then dips the little round pads women use in nursing bras, they are about the size of a 50 cent piece, lays them out on wax paper [not the nursing bra the waxed pads] to dry then into a baggie. Sometimes our packs smell a little "girly" but about midweek that is ok. They light easy, burn hot and last quiet awhile when lit. I dropped one in the lake, left it there a few minutes, picked it up shook off the water and it lite just fine. FRED
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03/04/2017 07:36AM
quote FOG51: "I use the fire starters my daughter-in-law makes for me. She takes old candles melts them down then dips the little round pads women use in nursing bras, they are about the size of a 50 cent piece, lays them out on wax paper [not the nursing bra the waxed pads] to dry then into a baggie. Sometimes our packs smell a little "girly" but about midweek that is ok. They light easy, burn hot and last quiet awhile when lit. I dropped one in the lake, left it there a few minutes, picked it up shook off the water and it lite just fine. FRED"
I have done the same using makeup removal pads that are a circular cotton pad. I just tear it partially in half when I want to light with a Fire Steel.
"Rivers know this: there is no hurry. We shall get there someday.” ~A.A. Milne
03/04/2017 07:48AM
quote NotSoFast: "Vaseline worked thoroughly into a cotton ball. Made with stuff we have around the house anyway. Burns many minutes (it has been years since I tested, so I don't recall precise length). Water resistant.
Dave"
Same here. Or birch bark taken from downed trees.
"The future ain't what it used to be" Yogi Berra
03/05/2017 09:21AM
quote NotSoFast: "Vaseline worked thoroughly into a cotton ball. Made with stuff we have around the house anyway. Burns many minutes (it has been years since I tested, so I don't recall precise length). Water resistant."
+1. I make sure everyone in the group has these in their PFD/emergency kits. I use small prescription medicine bottles and pack them full. I bring a couple extra bottles of them to use in camp also.
03/05/2017 06:22PM
I bring a couple of those fire sticks and some dry paper, tucked away in my dry pack. The vaseline and cotton ball idea sounds pretty genius though.
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03/05/2017 06:26PM
Looks like good stuff Maxx,
I use cotton balls and Vaseline also, put them in plastic film canisters....hard to find those these days :)
I like the 10 minute burn time on that stuff, that oughta do the trick in a rain!!!
SunCatcher
I use cotton balls and Vaseline also, put them in plastic film canisters....hard to find those these days :)
I like the 10 minute burn time on that stuff, that oughta do the trick in a rain!!!
SunCatcher
"WWJD"
03/05/2017 07:30PM
I have used Meeco SureStart firestarters for years and have found them to be very reliable. 1.5X1.5 inch X 3/8 inch thick. Sawdust impregnated with some kind of wax. Depending on what is being lit I will cut them in half or quarters or if the kindling is damp I use the whole square. Carry a few of them in a zip-lock bag. They come in a box of 144 squares - lasts years.
I buy them in the woodstove / fireplace section of Fleet Farm. Amazon has them but pricier there than Fleet Farm:
SureStart fire starters
I buy them in the woodstove / fireplace section of Fleet Farm. Amazon has them but pricier there than Fleet Farm:
SureStart fire starters
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03/05/2017 10:50PM
quote OldFingers57: "quote FOG51: "I use the fire starters my daughter-in-law makes for me. She takes old candles melts them down then dips the little round pads women use in nursing bras, they are about the size of a 50 cent piece, lays them out on wax paper [not the nursing bra the waxed pads] to dry then into a baggie. Sometimes our packs smell a little "girly" but about midweek that is ok. They light easy, burn hot and last quiet awhile when lit. I dropped one in the lake, left it there a few minutes, picked it up shook off the water and it lite just fine. FRED"
I have done the same using makeup removal pads that are a circular cotton pad. I just tear it partially in half when I want to light with a Fire Steel. "
Dryer lint dipped into candle wax or dribbled onto it. Same idea. I keep it in a quart ziploc bag with a bic lighter.
I also take 3 or 4 strike anywhere matches and put them together then wrap thread or cotton cloth around them to hold them together. Then I dip them into melted candle wax, leaving the heads exposed. They'll burn for at least 3-5 minutes on their own.
“It is clearly absurd to limit the term 'education' to a person's formal schooling.” - Murray Rothbard
03/06/2017 08:49AM
I use Webber grill starter cubes. I use them on my grill at home so I have them on hand and they work great. It doesn't take much to light them and they burn like a torch for a good 5-10 min. 6-8 inch flame that is intended to light standard charcoal. Hard to go wrong with that.
The only problem I have seen is that last year's cubes do not work this year. Once you break the seal on that cube, it should be used in a couple months. Only time I ever saw this happen was when I had a baggie of cubes from the previous year, but the same package, which has foil over individual cubes in an ice cube tray style container, worked just fine.
The only problem I have seen is that last year's cubes do not work this year. Once you break the seal on that cube, it should be used in a couple months. Only time I ever saw this happen was when I had a baggie of cubes from the previous year, but the same package, which has foil over individual cubes in an ice cube tray style container, worked just fine.
03/06/2017 09:49AM
quote maxxbhp: " I bought some of this stuffbecause it was on sale at Amazon. I've used military Trioxane for a long time and I love it. The problem with Trioxane is, you can only get it from "war surplus" places and sometimes the life has been used up, you have to learn to look at the packages and know that it's still good. I've had this for a few months and finally used it tonight, it works great and I like it a lot. I don't sell this stuff, I'm not a company spokesman, just passing along the info. "
Thanks, Bill, so doggone hard to find Trioxane bars anymore. Since I live in the sticks, I used to use them quite a bit. Now the few I have left are in my First Aid/Survival canister.
The link doesn't work for me, though?
"Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." Mark Twain
03/06/2017 11:57AM
quote SunCatcher: "Looks like good stuff Maxx,
I use cotton balls and Vaseline also, put them in plastic film canisters....hard to find those these days :)
I like the 10 minute burn time on that stuff, that oughta do the trick in a rain!!!
SunCatcher"
I was going to suggest this storage method as well - you can jam dozens of them in there. Alternately, someone also mentioned an old Rx pill bottle - same capacity with a more secure lid.
I had a buddy bring some goo many years ago in what looked like a toothpaste tube - that stuff worked great, but it was heavier than cotton balls + Vaseline.
03/06/2017 12:02PM
quote ozarkpaddler: "quote maxxbhp: " I bought some of this stuffbecause it was on sale at Amazon. I've used military Trioxane for a long time and I love it. The problem with Trioxane is, you can only get it from "war surplus" places and sometimes the life has been used up, you have to learn to look at the packages and know that it's still good. I've had this for a few months and finally used it tonight, it works great and I like it a lot. I don't sell this stuff, I'm not a company spokesman, just passing along the info. "
Thanks, Bill, so doggone hard to find Trioxane bars anymore. Since I live in the sticks, I used to use them quite a bit. Now the few I have left are in my First Aid/Survival canister.
The link doesn't work for me, though?"
I don't even know where that link came from, maybe one of the mods added it. I got those at Amazon, allegedly you can light them IN the water, although I'm not sure why you'd do that....:-)
"...And the days I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, .......well, I have really good days". Ray Wiley Hubbard
03/06/2017 12:03PM
I use the yellow tube stuff because it's easy to handle and one tube lasts several trips.
in the past I've used candle stubs which work really well because the wick will light with just a paper match and they burn on their own for a long time.the army blue tabs really lit with just a spark but the gel that replaced them was hard to light.the notes on the gel packs were instructive "if you can see the enemy he can see you"
maybe some camping outfit could make some,"if you can see the bear the bear has already seen you".
in the past I've used candle stubs which work really well because the wick will light with just a paper match and they burn on their own for a long time.the army blue tabs really lit with just a spark but the gel that replaced them was hard to light.the notes on the gel packs were instructive "if you can see the enemy he can see you"
maybe some camping outfit could make some,"if you can see the bear the bear has already seen you".
it's just a level trail thru the woods.
03/06/2017 06:22PM
I always take a baggie with cotton soaked in vaseline as part of my ditch kit, but to be honest, birch bark from dead birch trees is always abundant. I cut my kindling to dry wood, or use twigs if it's not raining and with birch bark I have a roaring fire in minutes.
I wish I was sitting in front of one right now!
Dave
I wish I was sitting in front of one right now!
Dave
03/07/2017 02:15AM
quote butthead: " Did someone mention firestarter ???
butthead"
Good stuff! Bagpipes, AC/DC, Kilts, and Fire, what's not to like on that video, 'eh?
"Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." Mark Twain
03/07/2017 06:39AM
I dunno.......I was always repelled by the thought of vaseline.......messy. And I avoid anything that has a smell to it as that is asking for uninvited company.
I use wet fire tinder which comes individually wrapped in a nice light airtight cube and fires up no matter what. Very convenient and light as air, tough to beat.
wet fire
I use wet fire tinder which comes individually wrapped in a nice light airtight cube and fires up no matter what. Very convenient and light as air, tough to beat.
wet fire
Lets Go!
03/07/2017 07:56AM
"I avoid anything that has a smell to it as that is asking for uninvited company."
"Vaseline Petroleum Jelly" is a highly purified tasteless, odorless, product of petroleum and mineral oils.
The original version, still sold sold in jars and cans has been used as a assembly lubricant for food/confection machinery for 100 years. Because it has no odor or taste that it can impart to your favorite chocolate confection.
butthead
"Vaseline Petroleum Jelly" is a highly purified tasteless, odorless, product of petroleum and mineral oils.
The original version, still sold sold in jars and cans has been used as a assembly lubricant for food/confection machinery for 100 years. Because it has no odor or taste that it can impart to your favorite chocolate confection.
butthead
"never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" George Carlin
03/07/2017 02:27PM
quote wetcanoedog: "
fooling around making fire starters!!
I made these years ago trying to get a "no fail" starter for my ditch kit."
Looks like the art projects that my kids brought home in 2nd grade. The one on the left is the Eiffel Tower, the one on the right is the Statue of Liberty.
03/07/2017 02:34PM
quote FOG51: "I use the fire starters my daughter-in-law makes for me. She takes old candles melts them down then dips the little round pads women use in nursing bras, they are about the size of a 50 cent piece, lays them out on wax paper [not the nursing bra the waxed pads] to dry then into a baggie. Sometimes our packs smell a little "girly" but about midweek that is ok. They light easy, burn hot and last quiet awhile when lit. I dropped one in the lake, left it there a few minutes, picked it up shook off the water and it lite just fine. FRED"
I use makeup remover pads for this same thing. Probably very similar. At the beginning of each trip I dedicate 1/2 of each of these per fire I think I'll start. I won't end up using that much, as 1/4 is usually more than enough, but using 1/2 per gives me some insurance.
03/07/2017 06:50PM
We fill egg cartons with wax from old candles and sawdust. Each egg compartment breaks off easily for each fire. I've never timed how long they last, but they do the job nicely. Dryer lint would work in place of sawdust. These are very cheap and effective.
03/08/2017 04:10AM
I use the smallest Dixie cup made, fill it with either wood chips or sawdust, and then pour melted was until cup is full. It lights easily, burn for 10 minutes, flame is 8-10 inches high. I use these at home for my charcoal chimney (I smoke a lot of meat) and they work great. I have taken them on my last two BWCA trips and they are very handy. I base camp so a little extra weight doesn't matter.
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