How do you guys carry fresh eggs in August for 7-10 trip? I know about the small and medium eggs having thicker shells but do I need to keep them in a collapsible container?
Hmmm. We always take fresh eggs, try to get mediums if we can, and are usually out 7-10 days, but we use them up within the first five. However, we have never gone in August. We go in late June normally, and have gone in very early September a couple of times.
We carry ours in the cardboard (not styrofoam) store egg carton, wrapped in two brown paper grocery bags, and duct-taped underneath the stern seat of the canoe. We have had almost no breakage that way, but if there happens to be an accident and any get cracked we have an omelet at the next meal or discard them. I do NOT cook them sunny-side up. After the first day I scramble them so that they are well-cooked.
If it is really hot, I would be wary of keeping them more than 3-4 days. I would try hard to keep them out of the sun at all times. As has been mentioned--do a search. There is a thread on the subject from the past with lots of info.
Small or medium size is a good idea. Whatever you do- do NOT wash them. That will compromise the shell and open the pores for microbes etc. Just keep them out of the sun and heat. You may even want to dunk them in the lake overnight in a waterproof container. They should stay edible for at least a week. Cracked shell? All bets are off!
I have tried the plastic egg carrier and had very bad luck. We do much better with the system I mentioned above. But whatever works for you; just remember to handle them carefully. :-) Keep them as cool as possible and cook thoroughly.
At the Midwest Mountaineering Expo I tried scrambled "Adventure Eggs " made from powder They tasted like regular scrambled eggs. So if you're scrambling or using it in cooking this would work too. I'm guessing Midwest Mountaineering carries these since they were at the Expo there.
"You guys might not know this, but I consider myself a bit of a loner. I tend to think of myself as a one-man wolf pack." - Alan Garner, The Hangover.
In August of 2009 I broke open 8 eggs into a regular nalgene drinking bottle the morning of the trip. I also packed a red sweet pepper, onion, portabella mushroom, and real butter. I put the works inside a lunch box size soft cooler. On the third morning we had scrambled eggs.
I liked the way it worked because I never worried about breaking the eggs.
I heard of transporting the eggs this way too. As far as the peppers and onions, I get the dehydrated ones at Cub or Penzey's. For the mushrooms I get dehydrated ones at Asian groceries. Though I've seen them at Cub and Rainbow. These re-hydrated mushrooms turn out really well.
"You guys might not know this, but I consider myself a bit of a loner. I tend to think of myself as a one-man wolf pack." - Alan Garner, The Hangover.
I would be very, very worried about keeping fresh eggs for more than a day after they had been removed from the shell. Even if well refrigerated, once an egg is broken it is very easy for contamination to occur. Personally I would never do the "break them into the nalgene" method. But I know people do it successfully.
We don't take any kind of cooler, though, so it is a moot point with me.
Here is what we do. We use the regular cardboard carton's, wrapped in one layer of bubble wrap. Put a couple of rubber band s around the bubble wrap or bungee deely bobs to hold in place. I broke one egg out of two dozen last year in middle of August on a five day trip. I carried the food pack and had the eggs on top. I was cognisant they were there, and thus was careful in handling of pack.ld get a large zip lock bag and zip lock the carton that way you do not have a mess if you do break one. Just what we do and it works. Nothing better then fresh eggs for a large group. If I were going alone or two people I would not take fresh eggs. Just me. I am contimpating liqud eggs for next trip the pre-scrambled kind (egg beaters) at least for the first or second day, I think would keep that long if kept out of sun? SunCatcher
Dad Always said "We don't Always catch fish...but we ALWAYS have a good time"
Egg beaters work great if your going to scramble them anyway. They come in a nice little container that I freeze before packing. We use them up in the first 4 days as it takes that long to thaw. Now if you want fried eggs...can't help you.
i think the other advantage of egg beaters besides being able to be frozen is they are pasturized. so, theoretically may last longer or less likely to spoil in the short term. discovering you've contract giardia the week you get back as opposed to food poisoning in the outback, think i'll take the chance with G.
If you can get 'freshly gathered' eggs right off the nest shortly before leaving home you should have no problems keeping for 5 days. Keep in shade of course.
I would NOT take them once they'd been out of their shells.
I don't know whether pasteurized eggs would be better, but these are available, with the eggs still in their shells.
I like Spartan2's idea. Haven't ever done that myself, but if I wanted to bring eggs, that's how I could carry them, I think. I personally would not be that concerned about them spoiling, especially since I'd go get some super fresh ones from my uncle. ;-)
I think it was in Outdoor Life, one of the more recent issues, that described how to keep eggs stable without refrigeration for several weeks.
Boil water, then drop in the eggs for 5 seconds, too much and you will get slightly boiled eggs, but at 5 seconds a film is created making the egg air tight and you don't have to refrigerate them.
The case that sloughman mentioned is the best way ive done eggs so far (medium eggs). But I don't think more than 5 days...Also, on a few trips we have frozen some milkjugs or old nalgenes that were 3/4 full of water and put them in a small squishy cooler. We still had ice on days 4&5 and had cold fresh water the next day. This would probably keep your eggs cold and fresher for longer.
“A sky as pure as water bathed the stars and brought them out”
I always take a soft sided cooler with fresh food for two or three days with everything frozen that is freezable,mourning we leave we crack open the eggs and put into two ziplocs then put into soft sided cooler,eat the eggs in breakfast burritos the first two mournings,never had a problem
I recall that eggs were never refrigerated on the farm where my grandmother lived. Googling egg storage I remain confident that for 10 days or so I'd have no problem with fresh eggs unrefrigerated. They will loose some taste but not much.
Dip them in sodium silicate (water glass - diluted with water 1:10) and they keep years - though they won't taste as good as fresh.
We take eggs in one of those plastic egg carriers and put them in a small foldup cooler on ice. Last several days and when the water in the cooler gets to a not so cool temp, eat them up.
Its a slow work day and I'm trolling the site right now. My buddy and I are going to try a creative approach to transporting eggs that we intend to eat the morning of day 2. Heres what we came up with:
Wide mouth nalgene filled 1/2-3/4 with water. Carefully place eggs into water (we fit 6 nicely), fill remaining space with water and seal. The water acts a shock absorber and the nalgene bottle absorbs the hard things in the pack. Best part is, afterwards just rinse out the bottle and you have another water carrier for yourself.
Half of cardboard egg carton and a couple of wraps of bubble wrap and lay ontop of food pack - sure seems easier - and no breakege since I started doing that.
Are you sure the eggs knocking against each other won't crack them?
BillConner1, they're in there fairly tight so there really isn't a lot of wiggle room for them.
Hugh, good point. We're adding a plastic bag that the eggs with be in and inserting that into the water.
I wanted to bring an egg carrier but my paddling partner doesn't like carrying something that has no use, ie the egg carrier after the morning of day 2.
Goby - I cut the empty part of the carton off and burn it each time we use eggs - so not much extra and not much weight to begin with. And I'm amazed how often I use the rubber bands that hold the bubble wrap for something else.
We always bring in fresh eggs. Usually a dozen and a half or two dozen. I have transported them in the plastic camping containers and the paper cartons. I can't recall ever breaking one using either method but some have gotten the hairline cracks in the paper cartons.
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I tried the link for AdventureEggs but it did not work.
Regular, dehydrated eggs are awful.
OvaEasy eggs are excellent though. I made some as an omelette for my 13 year old daughter the other day and she thought they were real eggs. They are easy to carry for as long as you like, much lighter than fresh eggs, and taste just as good. The only downside is cost.
Though I generally carry fresh, I liked adventure eggs also but seem to have disappeared more than a year ago. Honeyville gets good reports, but no personal experience.
This is how we did it... I gave one of the guys in our group the eggs and told him to treat them like his children... This picture always makes me laugh.. Never know what you will see on a portage... PS farm fresh eggs, not washed, had them days 3 and 6 in August, no problems. Our BW omelette is pepperoni fried til real crispy, cheddar cheese from a block, fresh eggs. GOOD eating on day 6...
I can explain this to you, but I cant understand it for you.....
the morning i leave for my trips i pack a medium shoulder strap cooler with frozen meats, bacon-jimmy dean sausage-steaks and crack 3 dozen eggs into a plastic container put those in the cooler and a group of 4 will have scrambled eggs every morning (5days) i also bring in some of those simply potatoes, mix that the eggs and meat and you have one awesome breakfast that sticks with you. yes my group eats good up there , but, it isnt like you have to haul it back out. LOL
I have not taken fresh eggs in, but if I did, I would not take them out of the shell (they will stay fresh longer and grow less bacteria in the shell). I would not trust them for more than a few hours outside the shell.
The evaporation technique to keep things cool also makes the most sense.
quote serenityseeker: "I have not taken fresh eggs in, but if I did, I would not take them out of the shell (they will stay fresh longer and grow less bacteria in the shell). I would not trust them for more than a few hours outside the shell.
The evaporation technique to keep things cool also makes the most sense."
Totally agree. It is dangerous to crack the eggs and keep them more than just a few hours. . .to keep them days is something I would never do. I do take eggs, but only use uncracked ones and we don't eat them unless thoroughly cooked.
Find a source of farm fresh eggs that have never been washed or refrigerated they can be kept in your pack without having to worry about keeping them cold we had ours for a solid week before our trip even started and they were fine people in other parts of the world don't refrigerate their eggs at all
Bad days fishing are still better than good days working -h
Farm fresh eggs are pretty easy to find. You can bet that the ones you buy in the stores are anywhere from 2-3 weeks old already. Ever crack one of each? Look at the difference in yokes. Farm fresh, nice orange yoke that sits up high. Store bought.....flat dull yellow.
Back in the day, eggs were kept in the kitchen drawer for days on end. As long as you don't wash them, (store bought eggs ARE washed, several times), you'll be just fine. Of course and cracked ones toss out. We raise egg laying chickens at our farm and am thinking about taking a couple of hens with us this year for our 2 week trek so we can have fresh eggs daily.
Not really, I made that last part up LOL. We really do raise egg layers though.....
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