Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Winter Camping and Activities :: Sand in the Stove?
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Doughboy12 |
quote Minnesotian: " I understand your concerns and they are not unfounded...just over stated. Unless you are planning on sucking on the end of the stack you don't have much to worry about. |
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Minnesotian |
If you go the route of using a galvanized sheet, make sure you burn a hot fire before taking the stove on your next camping trip. You need to burn off the zinc, in a well ventilated area, and don't breath in the smoke. Read all about it here: Metal fume fever Because of the concerns regarding galvanized metal, I would skip making a false bottom out of that. I picked up some 24 gauge sheet metal at a Big Box hardware store and made it out of that. |
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Jbuschie |
I just got back from Menards, and picked up an 8X20" piece of "duct end cap" for about $4.50, from the duct/vent section as recommended. I think having the edges already raised, and some holes will really improve draw/stove performance, and decrease my worries about wrecking my new stove. It won't cover the entire bottom of the stove, but the hottest part in the center should be adequate, I think. I drilled some holes, and filed down the burrs, will try it out in a couple of weeks, and post results- feeling better about not abusing my stove, and worrying about burning through the bottom. (I tried to attach photos, but was told I'm too new to the forum to post links, I think you can see them on my profile/I made those pictures public, I think) |
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Merlin |
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Arcola |
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ABisbee |
Merlin: "I snipped an old baking sheet into a couple of pieces that fit the stove. Its been used multiple times and is still doing its job." Yep. Invert a baking sheet. Available in all sizes from goodwill. $.99 |
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awbrown |
1. Sand, dirt or gravel 2. Fire Brick 3. Expanded metal 4. Sheet Metal Anything that helps to insulate the bottom from the intense heat of the fire would work. False bottom discussion |
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Cedarboy |
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Doughboy12 |
Did you go with galvanized? I would thing that ashes in the sand would require you to replace the sand every trip...do you leave it behind in a pile of ash? (Leave NO trace.) ~JK |
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awbrown |
quote Doughboy12: "100% sure one piece would have fit through the door...but the center ridge/leg really is the advantage of two pieces." I learned the hard way that this is not so, at least in the case of my stove and my floor making project. The width of the floor of my stove, a Kni-Co sold by Snowtrekker, measures 11 1/2" give or take a smidgen. The diagonal measurement of the door opening is 11 1/2". I took all necessary measurements and cut my sheet metal, planning on a 1/2" lip all the way around. The reason I could not get a one piece false floor in the door was because of the additional "thickness" created by folding the edges down. The opening is not wide enough, at the point where the folded edges must pass through, to make it. I suppose, if you took this into account, you could compensate by making the false floor somewhat smaller then the dimensions of the stove floor. I don't think this would really hurt the stove any. In any case, I made mine in two pieces. It's easy to get em in and out when cleaning the stove out and it makes the false floor more sturdy, as Doughboy12 already noted. |
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Doughboy12 |
quote Jaywalker: "Thanks everyone for your responses. I really like the idea of a false bottom. I wonder if if I can muster the metal working skills I learned in shop class (I think Carter was president then). I was thinking about the sand less for reducing metal fatigue and more for preventing melt below, but I think the false bottom would probably help with both. I'll start watching for sheet metal. Thanks" Go to the furnace duct area in your home improvement store of choice...no need to watch for it, it is readily available..;-) I was trying to think of a suitable product that could just be used instead of "made." I can't think of any at the moment but that is why I like to "shop." The wife doesn't often understand why I have to go down every isle in the store. But when I see a good item for an out of the box use, she sometimes comes around. |
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awbrown |
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