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jhb8426
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quote Northland: "quote sedges: "Does there need to be a title, or other proof of ownership accompanying the boat?"
I can't imagine how a title could be required to be with the boat as one is not required for registration. I have had my Nautiraid folding kayak registered in MN for almost 10 years and have never had a title, since I bought it used."
Canoes and kayaks do not have titles in MN.
(See page 9-10)
MN boating guide
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Northland
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quote sedges: "There is nothing on the MN-DNR website about this. Some questions arise.
Does the watercraft need to be accompanied by the owner?
Does there need to be a title, or other proof of ownership accompanying the boat?
I think this makes things really complicated for law enforcement. Up to now, every boat had to have some visible proof of registration. Now they will have to stop and interview everyone without a sticker, many of which will be legal, making it a total waste of time.
I have only one canoe that I bought new and has a bill of sale. All the rest I built myself or bought used and didn't think to get a bill of sale because my state doesn't title or register paddlecraft.
I await clarification!"
I can't imagine how a title could be required to be with the boat as one is not required for registration. I have had my Nautiraid folding kayak registered in MN for almost 10 years and have never had a title, since I bought it used.
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Register a self-propelled watercraft with no motor?!? When pigs fly..
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Porkeater
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quote sedges: " Now they will have to stop and interview everyone without a sticker, many of which will be legal, making it a total waste of time.
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... or they could spend their time in more worthwhile pursuits, rather than hassling people who aren't breaking the law.
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Yellowbird
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quote OneMatch: "
I'm in Nashville Yellowbird. Where are you?"
Soddy Daisy
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mutz
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quote VoyageurNorth: "Got this in my email and thought people who have their own watercraft in their own states where they don't need to license it, might like to know new regulation.
From: Ely License Bureau
Date: Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 4:33 PM
Subject: New Boat Regulation for Out of State Visitors
To: fun@ely.org
Please forward this information to all the resorts and outfitters in the Ely area.
Starting July 1. 2017
there is a new exemption for boat registration;
Watercraft registration is not required for a watercraft that is owned by a person from another state and that state does not require licensing that type of watercraft and the watercraft has not been within this state for more than 90 consecutive days.
Thank you,
Penny
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I have read multiple responses to this new law, and I am baffled. Not sure what is not black and white about this. If you don't live in Minnesota and your state doesn't require a registration you don't need one. If I am checked I show my Michigan ID and say it doesn't need registration in Michigan. Not sure what could be more clear. Contact will take less than five minutes.
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billconner
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quote OldFingers57: "Well everyone here in Illinois can not have to worry now about if the Water Usage sticker is a valid registration in MN now. Now we can worry about other more important things like who to name interstates after in the Chicago area and promoting IL tourism in the Bahamas maybe even the state budget. Budget LOL!!!"
Not sure if you mean the water usage stamp will now unquestionably be acceptable OR since Illinois does not require "registration" technically that nothing is acceptable. Hmmmm. So if I don't paddle my canoes in Illinois, do I need to do anything?
Anyone know what other states would allow me to paddle with my unregistered Illinois canoe? I assume at least Wisconsin, Tennessee, and Mississippi. I think Missouri? And of course Canada.
Someone - like a canoe association or something - should maintain a database with this info - which states require what for residents and non-residents.
Double DOH! I took my own advice and googled it. Doesn't seem up to date but a start.
States With Canoe & Kayak Registration Requirements
Oh look - another! And seems slightly more up to date.
Canoe And Kayak Registration By State
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Spartan1
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quote IceColdGold: "I live in WI. It costs $9 for a three year voluntary registration for a canoe. ."
It is even cheaper in Michigan, $5.00 for three years.
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SourisMan
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IceColdGold: "I live in WI. It costs $9 for a three year voluntary registration for a canoe. When you register, you get a card for the boat, and stickers. I have stickers on one of my boats now. I have the stickers for the other two, but have not installed them yet. I am thinking that I will not apply the stickers and simply carry the registration card which has the serial number for the boat and my address on it. It's easy enough to just pull out the card if needed. It may still be worth the $3 per year to avoid any issue and make the wardens job a bit easier."
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Jasonf
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Man I got lucky, I am bringing 3 canoes from MI and was just going to go through the hassle of registering them. For some reason though I decided search the topic one more time and low and behold I come across this post.
Thanks for sharing.
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nlong
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I wish I had noticed this a couple weeks ago. I just renewed my registration and my last day in the BWCA yesterday, I met 2 guys from the DNR and they informed me of this as they were checking my fishing license. I asked If they needed to see my boat registration and they informed me of the change in the law. I could have saved $11. Oh well.
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DownStrm
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Bill,
Iowa does not require out of state canoes to have Iowa registration if they are properly registered in their home state and used in Iowa 60 days or less. I keep all my registrations in my wallet because Iowa requires the registration to be on board. Since Illinois no longer requires registration, you should be safe.
Iowa has several crystal clear rivers in the Driftless Region, such as the Upper Iowa, Yellow, Turkey, and Maquoketa Rivers.
"Head west, young man, head west!"
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SouthernExposure
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Well, this will certainly make it easier for me now. MS does not require registration of human powered water craft so I would do the following when I would bring my cedar strip canoe into MN. A friend in the state fish and game department would just give me two regular boat registration stickers. I would then order an inexpensive set of vinyl numbers and letters that, when the canoe was inverted on top of the vehicle, would actually spell out my name. No one ever questioned me about it. Once I get back home, I'd tear that ugly registration mess off of the hull.
I guess that I don't have to do that anymore. Cheers.
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IceColdGold
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I live in WI. It costs $9 for a three year voluntary registration for a canoe. When you register, you get a card for the boat, and stickers. I have stickers on one of my boats now. I have the stickers for the other two, but have not installed them yet. I am thinking that I will not apply the stickers and simply carry the registration card which has the serial number for the boat and my address on it. It's easy enough to just pull out the card if needed. It may still be worth the $3 per year to avoid any issue and make the wardens job a bit easier.
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Yellowbird
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My state of Tennessee requires no registration for canoe. So it had to be registered as a boat, renewed annually at $25. After moving down here from MI, I had to re-register it and therefore pay a required 10% sales tax.
The changed in MN law is much welcomed!
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OneMatch
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quote Yellowbird: "My state of Tennessee requires no registration for canoe. So it had to be registered as a boat, renewed annually at $25. After moving down here from MI, I had to re-register it and therefore pay a required 10% sales tax.
The changed in MN law is much welcomed!"
Yes! Now I can take that "TN 36054732 DD" off my canoe!
I'm in Nashville Yellowbird. Where are you?
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sedges
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There is nothing on the MN-DNR website about this. Some questions arise.
Does the watercraft need to be accompanied by the owner?
Does there need to be a title, or other proof of ownership accompanying the boat?
I think this makes things really complicated for law enforcement. Up to now, every boat had to have some visible proof of registration. Now they will have to stop and interview everyone without a sticker, many of which will be legal, making it a total waste of time.
I have only one canoe that I bought new and has a bill of sale. All the rest I built myself or bought used and didn't think to get a bill of sale because my state doesn't title or register paddlecraft.
I await clarification!
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syogod
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quote ozarkpaddler: "quote MHS67: "Just my luck! Got my Minnesota sticker last week."
I knew I should have waited to go in July? Got mine the last of June, too!"
Same here! Oh well, at least it wasn't too expensive.
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VoyageurNorth
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Got this in my email and thought people who have their own watercraft in their own states where they don't need to license it, might like to know new regulation.
From: Ely License Bureau
Date: Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 4:33 PM
Subject: New Boat Regulation for Out of State Visitors
To: fun@ely.org
Please forward this information to all the resorts and outfitters in the Ely area.
Starting July 1. 2017
there is a new exemption for boat registration;
Watercraft registration is not required for a watercraft that is owned by a person from another state and that state does not require licensing that type of watercraft and the watercraft has not been within this state for more than 90 consecutive days.
Thank you,
Penny
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LuvMyBell
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What a sensible rules change and a pleasant surprise that a state government would do it even though it means a loss of revenue. Well done Minnesota! Now I can get those nasty looking stickers off my canoes.
I'm guessing that someone in the group will have to ensure they have some ID like andrivers license showing your out of state address as proof in case you get stopped.
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ozarkpaddler
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quote MHS67: "Just my luck! Got my Minnesota sticker last week."
I knew I should have waited to go in July? Got mine the last of June, too!
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Zulu
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A question for those from Wisconsin. I understand a canoe used by a Wisconsin resident does not need to be registered and a fee paid. When you purchase a canoe from a Wisconsin seller on Craigslist is there any paperwork required that proves the canoe is yours? I would never do this but could A person sell all their canoes and kayaks to their brother in Wisconsin and then borrow them from him and use in Minnesota and make sure they don't stay in the state for 90 days? When asked It would be truthful that The craft was borrowed from a Wisconsin resident. It seems now when an MNDNR agent sees a canoe without a registration sticker they will want to see paperwork about that canoe. Is there any paper work associated with a Wisconsin canoe? This will require looking at a lot of canoes now.
The fees to register in Minnesota just went up.
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MHS67
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Just my luck! Got my Minnesota sticker last week.
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OldFingers57
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Well everyone here in Illinois can not have to worry now about if the Water Usage sticker is a valid registration in MN now. Now we can worry about other more important things like who to name interstates after in the Chicago area and promoting IL tourism in the Bahamas maybe even the state budget. Budget LOL!!!
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mirth
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Killing the ongoing quote. Also, yay for no registration required if the home state doesn't require it!
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