Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Listening Point - General Discussion :: Number one qualities
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Jackfish |
quote Zulu: "My sentiments exactly! Except I don't want my paddling partner wearing Green Bay Packer apparel or mentioning Aaron Rogers or Titles around the campfire. I want to hear only silence and natural sounds like.........Barrrroooooooooooooooooo!" LMAO |
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arm2008 |
I personally like a mix of silence and QUIET discussion. Loud talkers quickly wear on me. And if we are in a discussion time let me tell my stories, too. And if you have a fear of mud or water either stay home or quietly, quickly, and discretely deal with it. I don't want to be 1/2 way down the portage to find that you're still back there trying to figure out how to not get dirty or wet. |
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Kobykat |
2. Someone who you meet for the first time and doesn't ask, "what do you do for a living." (I hate that question.) |
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Zulu |
quote Basspro69: "The number one quality for me is that my partner has a true appreciation of nature. The woods are very personal to me and I have to be with someone that loves being there also. The second one is a quiet person who likes to hear natures chorus, and can sit around a campfire and reflect without feeling like they have to fill every second with conversation." My sentiments exactly! Except I don't want my paddling partner wearing Green Bay Packer apparel or mentioning Aaron Rogers or Titles around the campfire. I want to hear only silence and natural sounds like.........Barrrroooooooooooooooooo! |
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SaganagaJoe |
quote Basspro69: "The number one quality for me is that my partner has a true appreciation of nature. The woods are very personal to me and I have to be with someone that loves being there also. The second one is a quiet person who likes to hear natures chorus, and can sit around a campfire and reflect without feeling like they have to fill every second with conversation." Well said BP. |
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GeoFisher |
I love the social aspect of my trips, and as so, I generally put groups together that have a reasonable social aspect. I believe only one person in our 20-30+ group of folks have ever solo'd. And in most cases, most of the guys like to go on group trips with 4 or greater members. On most of our trips, we want to have guys just "do" work, and not be asked to do something. In almost all cases, this has not been an issue, but there are a few in our crew who have to be prodded. They are otherwise reasonably good people, so they get invites back, and will probably always get invites back. Group dynamics are a very, very critical component, as our trips are usually long. Fortunately, like I said earlier, our planning meetings start in Jan, and we usually have 20-40 folks come to those meetings. We usually have 4-5 groups that get planned out of that, and those 4-5 groups have varying skills. We NEVER take someone on a monster trip that has never gone to the BWCA/QUETICO before. If someone is new, they get "convinced" to go with one of the basecamp type groups. These groups are not always easy trippers, but they setup base camp, and usually one 0-5 portages into the BWCA. If they do good on that trip, they are invited to other trips......people don't always have the right "skills" and disposition to go on other trips though, and that is fine. There are a few guys that will never go on deep or hard trips. Lots of reasons for that, but they won't go. Now, they can put their own trip together and get folks to go with them, but most of the trips are planned and organized by the same 5-10 group leaders. I've been a group leader since our 3rd trip. If you've watched my website, you can tell that we have a core group of 4 guys, and 2 or 3 that are substitutes......and then we have 3 or 4 that have gone on these trips that have been members of other trips. Bottom line. It is really important to have the right mix, because we all have expectations on what we want on these trips, and 1 person can destroy a trip . Everyone should keep that in mind when tripping with other people. If you're having a bad day or whatever, unless someone specifically wants to know about your bad day, they probably don't want to hear about it. Fortunately, I've had very few "bad days" in the parks.... Later, Geo |
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DeanL |
2 - Being able to be a part of a team. No matter the size of the group, everyone has to pull their weight. We all have strengths and weaknesses. Learn what they are and figure out a way to capitalize on them. |
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GoSpursGo |
2 - Awareness and Consideration - Ive thought about this one a lot and I firmly believe the combination or lack thereof of these two things is what makes good people good and bad people annoying as hell. |
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Freddy |
Genuine and Altruistic. |
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Zulu |
2. Kindness. |
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andym |
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Jackfish |
In life, someone who has a positive attitude, is not a drama king or queen and has passion, whether it be work, play or love. |
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Podunk |
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boonie |
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QueticoMike |
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carmike |
A close second would be the person who doesn't do his/her fair share. I only rank this #2 because, in my experience, most people are willing to do more if asked. Seems like many times they just don't realize others are doing more work. |
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nofish |
However, a lot can be overlooked if the partner knows all of the fishing honey holes. |
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SaganagaJoe |
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paddlefamily |
My favorite paddling partner is my husband....and I've had a lot of paddling partners and wouldn't feel badly about naming another. But we've been blessed with a mutual love of wilderness and many years of outdoor adventures. Paddling comes easy together, so much so that we hardly have to communicate. Camp time is easy too, and we fall into chores that we tend to prefer - but we're both willing to do anything. Plus I just like him as a person. :) |
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lundojam |
I do enjoy good conversation, so "quiet" sometimes becomes "too quiet" for me personally. I also find myself liking folks who aren't afraid to be silly. Tough guys need not apply. Also, serious people bore me. |
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missmolly |
1. A sense of equity. It took a partner with a sense of equity to realize what I'd been missing. He paid for all the gas and all my transit meals, noting the cost of my equipment and the wear and tear to my vehicle. If I cooked the meal, he whooshed in to do the dishes. If I pitched the tent, he was purifying water. And so on. 2. In general, I admire hard workers. You can say compassion is tops, but sans labor, compassion is limp. |
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Mocha |
really appreciate the quiet so less talk is good. |
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Northwoodsman |
1. Someone who values the group as a whole, and carries their weight. Communication skills are a must. If I'm splitting firewood to cook dinner, they take it upon themselves to filter water. After dinner is done they have water warming up and all of the dishes collected to wash. When we hit the campsite for the night they help carry everything up to the site, help secure the canoe, and assist in formulating a plan before taking care of their own personal gear. When we get to a portage they help unload the canoe and get the gear out of the way before going to relax in the shade to take a water break. It seems like common sense but on a trip in recent times as soon as we hit a campsite the individual was setting up their tent before the community gear was even off the landing. While I was splitting firewood and filtering water, they were organizing their gear and setting up their sleeping gear for the night. While I was taking down the tarp, packing community gear and doing dishes, they already had their pack in the canoe. My tent was still set up but they "didn't know how I wanted it packed so they left it be". When we got to a portage this person would grab my pack and head across the portage, while I grabbed the canoe. On trip # 2 across they would hurry back to get the community pack and leave me to carry his pack which weighed 70 lbs. at least. 2. In general I value many of these same traits in a person. Someone who pitches in, or asks what they can do to help, instead of finding something else to do that is "busy work" to make it look like they are contributing. |
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yogi59weedr |
YOU GOTTA HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR.....IF YA DON'T LIFE WILL KICK YA IN THE AZZ |
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missmolly |
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ozarkpaddler |
One of my favorite trip partners I jokingly referred to as "The great Perch hunter." He would hunt for a "Perch" to sit on and tell stories while everyone else worked. But you know what, he was worth it because he was always smiling, laughing, and telling funny stories. If you ASKED him to do something, he would. He just never offered UNLESS asked (LOL)! Heck, I carried his heavy old 18' Grumman up the Stairway Portage (he paid for my pizza and beer afterwards) and I'd do it again if I could just to listen to that laugh and those stories! In the 4 or 5 trips old Bill took with me to the BWCAW he endured a trip with almost a week of rain every day, mosquito and black flies at their peak, crazy waves on Gunflint and Seagull, muskeg to his crotch on Lizz and on the Height of Land Portage, but NO adversity ever elicited a complaint from my friend. I sure miss him; God bless you, Bill! |
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missmolly |
quote ozarkpaddler: "A good sense of humor and no bitching. I can overlook a lot if someone is even tempered and doesn't complain about the mosquitos, the wind, the cold, the heat. Lovely epitaph, Oz. |
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Spartan2 |
While I am, by nature, a talkative person, in the wilderness setting--and particularly in the canoe--I am very quiet. Spartan1 and I will often go for an hour or more without saying a word. Just the sound of the paddle. It is what I value about the canoe country most of all: the silence. 2. The quality of a person in general is more difficult to pin down. As I look at the persons I respect and admire most, I keep coming back to "integrity". That covers a great many different aspects, I suppose. Honesty, truthfulness, honoring one's word, dependability, self-sufficiency. Most of my close friends are people of deep faith, people who have lived lives of hard work, of taking care of their own, and of giving to others. To me, "integrity" encapsulates all of those qualities and more. |
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mr.barley |
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