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BasecampMom	12/13/2017 07:17PM   My husband and I enjoyed walking out to the Hegman pictos in the winter.
Grandma L	12/13/2017 08:00PM   Check out Magic on the Rocks Michael Furtman's book On LLC at Irving island - just north of Warrior Hill
Frenchy19	12/13/2017 09:04PM   To be respectful, please do not take pictures.
firemedic5586	12/13/2017 10:39PM   Frenchy19: "To be respectful, please do not take pictures. " Please explain..
CanoeViking	12/13/2017 04:21PM   I have not had the privilege yet of getting to see any of the pictographs yet. I was wondering three things... 1. What tribe(s) created them? 2. What was their source of "paint"? 3. Where would you recommend going to see some good, clear pictographs? Thanks, CV
ellahallely	12/13/2017 04:30PM   The easiest ones to get to are on the Island river south of Isabella lake. Maybe 2 or 3 mile paddle or ice travel. Also North Hegman lake off the Echo Trail. I know of some on Burntside but they are on private property.
Savage Voyageur	12/13/2017 04:51PM   As far as the tribe, I’m going to say the Anishnabe or Ojibway tribe. The rest of your questions can be answered HERE
dentondoc	12/13/2017 04:47PM   If you are interested in Quetico: This panel is on Quetico Lake. You'd pass it headed east if you were on the approach to the portage into Kasakokwog Lake. There are a number of other pictographs on Quetico Lake, including this one which is west of the one pictured above. There are a number (something like 8 different sites) on Agnes Lake, including a panel on roughly the same scale as the one on Quetico. Agnes also has the distinction (I believe) of being the only lake also having a petroglyph (west side, north of the portage into Silence Lake). You will find additional panels on Lac La Croix (just north of Bottle Portage), Darkwater (southeast shore of the lake) and other places. However, the best single site I've seen is a panel on Artery Lake on the Bloodvein River a bit east of the Manitoba border. This picture is only a small part of the overall panel. dd
CanoeViking	12/19/2017 11:27AM   It would be very interesting to hear the story behind all the pictographs, till then I will just enjoy looking at them. Thanks again for sharing the useful info and I think we will be visiting the Hegman Pictos this summer and hopefully a couple others.
Grandma L	12/18/2017 09:06AM   Are we - they - sure pictographs are not just ancient graffiti? or some kind of territorial markers? You know - see who can paint on the rock the highest above the water? or the moose I killed is bigger than yours? or my new canoe is better than you canoe? Just asking? None of the books seem to really tell the "meaning" of these drawings - They only seem to make guesses. Wait a few hundred years for someone to find the sculpture garden at Loring Park-Art Museum in Minneapolis. What will they think of the "Spoon and Cherry"?
bobbernumber3	12/18/2017 09:59AM   Grandma L: "...pictographs are not just ancient graffiti? ." Just ancient graffiti? Paint 'em over with modern graffiti should not be an issue then... who cares? Its just older graffitti...
Grandma L	12/18/2017 04:52PM   I do not support the vandalism!! Whatever they mean, they are historic, come from a culture we should value and traditions we should respect.
firemedic5586	12/18/2017 04:59PM   I picture a handful of teenagers getting their butts chewed on by "Dad/Elders" for taking the family canoe and Tagging rocks in the Hood.. Resulting in NO CANOE for you for a month and you can't hang out with those kids anymore...
CanoeViking	12/17/2017 02:42PM   Thanks everyone for the helpful info. I’m looking forward to checking out some of the ones that we’re mentioned. Is there any other Indian or Voyaguer sites interesting to visit?
Goldenbadger	12/17/2017 03:44PM   The pictos on the Basswood River are amazing and there are a lot of them. I'm not sure why pictures would be disrespectful. Just don't touch them. Michael Furtman's book is excellent.
bobbernumber3	12/17/2017 09:09PM   firemedic5586: "Frenchy19: "To be respectful, please do not take pictures. " Please explain.." Descendants of the people believed to have created the pictographs believe that a photograph "takes away" some of the original image and thereby harms the pictograph.
bobbernumber3	12/17/2017 09:14PM   CanoeViking: "I have not had the privilege yet of getting to see any of the pictographs yet. I was wondering three things... 1. What tribe(s) created them? 2. What was their source of "paint"? 3. Where would you recommend going to see some good, clear pictographs? Thanks, CV" 1) Ojibwa or their Algonkian-speaking ancestors. 2) Rusted iron ore (red ochre) was mixed with a binding agent, possibly bear grease or sturgeon oil. The binder left no film between the pigment and the rock, creating a permanent bond better and longer-lasting than modern paint which would blister or flake with changing temperatures. 3) Pictograph sites in Ontario
Pinetree	12/18/2017 05:43PM   Goldenbadger: "The pictos on the Basswood River are amazing and there are a lot of them. I'm not sure why pictures would be disrespectful. Just don't touch them. Michael Furtman's book is excellent." No expert on this issue at all. But to me,pictures make it available for others to see these past artifacts and maybe appreciate Indian culture and the area if pictures taken? A lot of the pictographs to me show and tell a story of hunting and it is a message to pass on? Also with zero reference on my part,I know various groups of Indian tribes say pictures should not be taken. I just wonder how and when they determined that? There was no cameras back than so no one or group at that time could say pictures would affect the Pictographs in anyway? Like I am saying I have no reference on my part,but wonder how and when they determined it was wrong to photograph? Just wondering?
andym	12/19/2017 06:46PM   I highly recommend these guides for use on your trips to pictograph sites. They are clear, make it easy to find and learn about the pictographs. While not a replacement for longer books back at home or in the cabin, they definitely augment them. They were available in Ely for a while but are now easiest to get online from the author/publisher. Northwoods Memories Multimedia Productions pictograph guides