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Gadfly
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Visited the Grand Canyon in November a few years back. Stayed a night in Flagstaff and it cooled off well below freezing at night. I think I also remember seeing snow near the canyon. What I don't remember seeing are any lakes unfortunately.....
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nctry
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riverrunner: "I am sitting in AZ for the winter hit 80 yesterday. I do not miss the below temps
worked in them for a long time "
I'll be joining you in a few weeks. :)
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Pinetree
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Outside this morning and it was -22 degrees F. below and actually thought it was nice out. If it is possible my body is getting use to it.
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Pinetree
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riverrunner: "I am sitting in AZ for the winter hit 80 yesterday. I do not miss the below temps
worked in them for a long time "
I never been to the Grand Canyon or like the Arches, I always thought maybe this would be a nice time with temps moderate and maybe fewer tourists?
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Zulu
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Those places can still get cold at this time Pinetree. Especially the G.C. In my opinion late October early November or late March and April. Warmer and longer days. Tourist don’t usually get up until 9:00am so you can get a good start if you get up early.
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riverrunner
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I am sitting in AZ for the winter hit 80 yesterday. I do not miss the below temps
worked in them for a long time
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nctry
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WW... My email wouldn't send now only receives. Can you call the number I was able to send?
Banks... You home?
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WhiteWolf
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Banksiana: "JimmyJustice:
Why would more snow depth and greater area of snow coverage aided in lower temperatures? Inquiring minds want to know...
JJ "
Snow reflects the sun's radiation diminishing warming caused by sunlight heating the ground and vegetation. Albedo is the measure of the ability of a surface to reflect solar radiation- snow has a very high albedo, dirt and ground; not so much."
+1- also a deeper snowpack (especially a fresh one and in that case the most recent cold snap was aided by it) allows slightly more radiational cooling at night then a shallow one and thus a deep snowpack and large extent of it often "feed backs"on itself prolonging and in some cases intensifying cold air. It's often stated in the field that a fresh-deep snow pack compared to bare/brown ground is worth at least 10 degrees (cooler) at night.
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Wables
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WhiteWolf: "Banksiana: "JimmyJustice:
Why would more snow depth and greater area of snow coverage aided in lower temperatures? Inquiring minds want to know...
JJ "
Snow reflects the sun's radiation diminishing warming caused by sunlight heating the ground and vegetation. Albedo is the measure of the ability of a surface to reflect solar radiation- snow has a very high albedo, dirt and ground; not so much."
+1- also a deeper snowpack (especially a fresh one and in that case the most recent cold snap was aided by it) allows slightly more radiational cooling at night then a shallow one and thus a deep snowpack and large extent of it often "feed backs"on itself prolonging and in some cases intensifying cold air. It's often stated in the field that a fresh-dgeep snow pack compared to bare/brown ground is worth at least 10 degrees (cooler) at night. "
Whatever the meteriological explanation, cold temps at the Duluth Basecamp lead to fantastic sauna cool down conditions!
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Gadfly
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Just got back from that way. Spent a few days catching some pike on tip ups. Coldest temp we saw was -34 on Wednesday night. Burned a little more wood than an average trip but it was still a good time.
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JimmyJustice
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WhiteWolf: "-20F at my house just outside of Des Moines. First time -20F since I moved in 1998 and first time likely since all the records fell in FEB 1996. -20F with only a few inches of snow on the ground-- this air mass would have smashed records even further if the snow depth and extent of it had been deeper like it was in FEB 96'. Very similar setup weather map wise. "
WW
Why would more snow depth and greater area of snow coverage aided in lower temperatures? Inquiring minds want to know...
JJ
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walllee
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nctry: "walllee: "nctry: "walllee: "Sitting at Taste of Ely sipping coffee, having good conversation, getting ready to hit the great outdoors !! Heaven on Earth. Maybe I’m crazy, but lots better to me then a warm sandy beach!!"
Are you up for a few days?" Hi Ben . I will be around most of the week. Might head up to Grand Marais , depends on how fishing goes here."
Check your email..." Got it....
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Grizzlyman
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walllee: "Sitting at Taste of Ely sipping coffee, having good conversation, getting ready to hit the great outdoors !! Heaven on Earth. Maybe I’m crazy, but lots better to me then a warm sandy beach!!"
Definitely not crazy. -7 right now and I just got in from a 2 hr cross country ski through the forest under the full moon. I'll take that over a beach any day of the week.
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Banksiana
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JimmyJustice:
Why would more snow depth and greater area of snow coverage aided in lower temperatures? Inquiring minds want to know...
JJ "
Snow reflects the sun's radiation diminishing warming caused by sunlight heating the ground and vegetation. Albedo is the measure of the ability of a surface to reflect solar radiation- snow has a very high albedo, dirt and ground; not so much.
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walllee
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Hello Ben.... hoe you are doing well. I will be up the remainder of the week.
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nctry
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walllee: "nctry: "walllee: "Sitting at Taste of Ely sipping coffee, having good conversation, getting ready to hit the great outdoors !! Heaven on Earth. Maybe I’m crazy, but lots better to me then a warm sandy beach!!"
Are you up for a few days?" Hi Ben . I will be around most of the week. Might head up to Grand Marais , depends on how fishing goes here."
Check your email...
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Jaywalker
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nooneuno: "Nothing like hittin the beach with a cold beer.....  "
Ya know if you get one of them foam can cozies, it will help keep that beer cold longer.
Good for you, Wallee, get out there and go!
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yogi59weedr
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Gotta be a tough lake trout opener....
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WhiteWolf
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-20F at my house just outside of Des Moines. First time -20F since I moved in 1998 and first time likely since all the records fell in FEB 1996. -20F with only a few inches of snow on the ground-- this air mass would have smashed records even further if the snow depth and extent of it had been deeper like it was in FEB 96'. Very similar setup weather map wise.
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nctry
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nooneuno: "Nothing like hittin the beach with a cold beer..... "
Did you say cold beer or bear?
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nooneuno
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nctry: "nooneuno: "Nothing like hittin the beach with a cold beer..... "
Did you say cold beer or bear?"
Beer most definitely, I'm still affeared of bears and GIRL SCOUTS.
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Zulu
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I would rather be in Pasadena watching the Rose Parade. It’s a balmy 46 degrees there. I’ve been walking in this sub zero stuff the past few days and the wind is really hard on my face. I try to cover it but the frost build up bugs me. I walked into a restaurant after a 6 mile walk and I could tell from the look on the workers faces that the frostnip on my cheeks was visible. It looks like the white pads on a Bandaid against a bright rose colored background. I believe it kind of scares them so I just face the window and let it thaw slowly.
I must be a little sadistic to take that abuse but I like to see how I stand against it. I could go to SoCal for the winter anytime now but there is a certain honesty about this weather that I like. Plus fuel is about $4.00 a gal. there.
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Laketrout58
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It is beautiful and peaceful during the winter season. I was contemplating a hunting trip for brookies this weekend but it is too cold for me now. Ten years ago maybe. I sure would love to be standing on (enter lake name here) jigging for monster brookies! GO VIKINGS ! Marc
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nctry
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walllee: "Sitting at Taste of Ely sipping coffee, having good conversation, getting ready to hit the great outdoors !! Heaven on Earth. Maybe I’m crazy, but lots better to me then a warm sandy beach!!"
Are you up for a few days?
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Mocha
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sitting in my living room watching vikings. just made some deep fried shrimp from scratch (except the shrimp was purchased). very yummy!
it is cold here in new ulm but the sun is bright and warm.
where is taste of ely?
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nooneuno
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Nothing like hittin the beach with a cold beer.....
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bwcasolo
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not much above zero here past 2 days, wife and i riding fat bikes all over the place with 4 inches of fresh snow, it's a blast!
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bwcasolo
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nooneuno: "Nothing like hittin the beach with a cold beer..... "
that is awesome! whew buddy!
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walllee
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nctry: "walllee: "Sitting at Taste of Ely sipping coffee, having good conversation, getting ready to hit the great outdoors !! Heaven on Earth. Maybe I’m crazy, but lots better to me then a warm sandy beach!!"
Are you up for a few days?" Hi Ben . I will be around most of the week. Might head up to Grand Marais , depends on how fishing goes here.
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walllee
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Mocha: "sitting in my living room watching vikings. just made some deep fried shrimp from scratch (except the shrimp was purchased). very yummy!
it is cold here in new ulm but the sun is bright and warm.
where is taste of ely? " Just a few doors north of Piargis.
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walllee
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Sitting at Taste of Ely sipping coffee, having good conversation, getting ready to hit the great outdoors !! Heaven on Earth. Maybe I’m crazy, but lots better to me then a warm sandy beach!!
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arctic
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I agree. Had a great sub-zero ski yesterday, and I'll be out again this afternoon.
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missmolly
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That's the spirit, skiers!
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yogi59weedr
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I'm sitting at home, 2°.
I have strep throat.
I'm watching the Bears..
It's not that I'm feeling bad enough....
It's only 7 minutes into the game.
Think I'll go out to the garage and get my ice poles ready to go...
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