Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Listening Point - General Discussion :: Rough Start to 2018
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nctry |
I hope everyone has a better 2018 then it seems to have started. Any prognosis on how long the ankle is going to keep you down? Hang in there... Everyone! |
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Spartan2 |
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Northwoodsman |
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QueticoMike |
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andym |
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timatkn |
Of course it depends on the type of fracture, but most of the time you should be good to go by June. Do some rehab after it heals! Hope your wife finds a better job than before! T |
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TuscaroraBorealis |
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offroadjeeper |
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boonie |
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missmolly |
offroadjeeper: "Well thankfully I didn't need surgery. I have actually made a remarkable recovery in a few short weeks. I'm already walking without limping. I go to physical therapy 3 times a week for a couple months. No missed work. Unfortunately my wife is still unemployed. Really hoping that changes soon. Good news and good attitude! |
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ozarkpaddler |
missmolly: "offroadjeeper: "Well thankfully I didn't need surgery. I have actually made a remarkable recovery in a few short weeks. I'm already walking without limping. I go to physical therapy 3 times a week for a couple months. No missed work. Unfortunately my wife is still unemployed. Really hoping that changes soon. Certainly is a great, unselfish attitude; I certainly hope all goes well! |
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offroadjeeper |
Thank you everyone for your kind words of encouragement & prayers. I do know we don't have it near as bad as others. I see many people struggle with so much more than we're dealing with & my heart goes out to them. I have kept my head held high through this & have no worries. |
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scat |
I sincerely wish that the best of luck comes your way soon. If you don’t keep smiling, you’re just cheating yourself. Cheers, scat |
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mastertangler |
I for one, do not apply that scripture to my health for what glory does it bring To Christ if I am suffering in my body due to illness or accident? Would that interpretation not bring one to accept such things as illness being under the will of the almighty? Rather does not scripture clearly state over and over and over again that God is my healer? Should I rather not confess my healing as per His promises and then Christ can be glorified through the healing rather than suffering? Just something to ponder my dear friends. |
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mastertangler |
ozarkpaddler: "Well, Masterangler, my intent was to offer solace to a fellow BWCAW member, not to begin a debate on Bible scripture. But it IS obvious that Christ can and does ALLOW things to happen which may be terrible at the time. Why the offense? Why the accusatory unfair tone? I am trying to get folk to understand and believe that God wants you well, not sick. We need to agree with him and what he has promised. If you but put your pride aside and investigate the scripture for yourself you will find I speak the truth. The author of Romans concerning the scripture in question was speaking of the persecution that the church was experiencing at that time. Persecution that cost many a believer their lives. Hence the suffering that the scripture speaks of. We are not acquainted with such suffering in the United States........there are however, many places on the planet where people are persucuted and often killed or imprisoned for following Christ. Unfortunately there is a school of thought, not supported by scripture, that God causes or allows sickness on those he loves. I do not see chapter or verse to substantiate such beliefs. Rather we live in a fallen world which is under the curse. If we believe that our sickness and diseases are "Gods will" and such "sufferings" brings God glory then we will have a very hard time getting rid of our afflictions. But if we stand in faith, believing that God is who said he is and is the author of life and health and wants us well then we empower God to act on our behalf. On the other hand if you believe that it is Gods will for you to be sick and in your sickness and suffering you bring glory to his name you had better hope you have a good doctor. If you doubt my theology ask yourself this very simple question. When Christ was in his hometown he could NOT do many mighty works. Ever ask yourself why? It had everything to do with belief. Hate me if you must, but I have told you the truth. |
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mastertangler |
It was not my intention to bring about a religious discussion. But I could not refrain especially when people's health and livelihood may be shipwrecked by suggesting that it is Gods will that one suffer via disease, sickness or accident and such suffering brings glory to God. Rather, believing the vast multitude of scriptural references concerning healing and then standing and believing those scriptures puts God into a position to fulfill his Word which He is very desirious to accomplish. I have personally experienced several healings. A few would be considered miraculous (scar tissue being smoothed over and skin like new within a 10 minute period of time). Each event was precipitated by the confession of speaking and being in agreement of what God has clearly stated in his Word. Add in belief that God is able to do what He said and the supernatural power flows. I will continually set myself in agreement with Gods word concerning healing regardless of how I feel or what I see. If your confession, the words you speak, are in agreement with your illness (I have diabetes, I have the flu etc) then you are establishing the reality of it in your life. Throw in wondering wether such sickness / suffering is Gods will can sabotage belief that God wants me healed and well. God will not go against your own beliefs. A myriad of examples in scripture confirm this. The woman with the issue of blood kept saying to herself, " if I but touch the hem of his garment I WILL be healed". Google healing scriptures and spend some time reading through them. It becomes transparently obvious that the Lord God wants to heal........it is the children's bread. Daily dose healing scriptures |
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missmolly |
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Hoaf |
offroadjeeper: "Well I fractured my ankle at work last week. Then to top it off my wife lost her job the next day. If I hadn't hurt myself I could do overtime to make up for the lost income. All I can do at this point is put my trust in the Lord Jesus. I believe he has better things lined up for us. Really hoping I don't need surgery. Going to see a specialist on Monday. Gotta be all healed up for my trip come June. :-)" Best wishes for a favorable diagnosis and a speedy recovery. It really does suck when your plans are messed up by something bad, which unfortunately happens to everyone at some time or another. That said, one door closing can lead to something better that may not have otherwise transpired. We're only in control of how we respond. Best wishes to you both! |
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HowardSprague |
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IceColdGold |
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KevinL |
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Canoearoo |
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awbrown |
Whenever one door closes another always opens. Things will get better so keep your chin up. |
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andym |
Seriously, though, I’ve seen the same thing that Ben has found. People have amazing strength. And not just a few. Virtually everyone. We persevere and thrive through amazing challenges and will be pulling for you to rebound from these setbacks. And don’t worry, 7 of our boats are canoes. And I’m sort of looking for one more. |
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mastertangler |
Unfortunately many believe they are not "qualified" to receive the abundance that the Lord has for them. And indeed if we were to rely on our own goodness we would fall short. But Jesus has made us (those who put their faith and trust in Christ) acceptable and ransomed us (paid the debt owed) and even now is the mediator (lawyer). So, since scripture is abundant with healing and economic provision, approach with confidence and let your words be in agreement, never doubting ("geez, I hope so" etc) but rather firmly believing that He is able and willing. Do not waver, but rather having done all things, stand! While it is well and good for others to pray and stand for you, nothing is more powerful than personalizing Gods Word and praying it back to him in faith believing. After all, He does not lie nor is He a respecter of persons. |
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ozarkpaddler |
TuscaroraBorealis: "Romans 8:17-18 helps give me perspective. Gosh, you'all are in my thoughts and prayers too! Really puts things into perspective. I've been whining about all the things breaking, extra expenses and illness so far this year, but I feel ashamed for my petty complaints. Several folks here have expressed more eloquent words than I could come up with. But Tuscarora's scripture here always is on the tip of my tongue. That and a little further down in Romans 8:28 " And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, and who have been called according to his purpose." Again, my prayers preceded my finishing this comment and I truly hope things look better soon! |
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ozarkpaddler |
I myself went through a year and a half of chemo, surgeries, radiation, and was told to "Get prepared." It was Hell on earth. Yet, because of that experience, my life was transformed in many "Positive" ways. I ended up in the Nursing field, his "Mission" for me, meeting my wife, and other blessings that would take me hours to enumerate. And......forget it, I don't believe you have any interest in an opinion other than your own? And, my apologies to offroadjeeper, I will continue to pray for you'all! |
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Canoearoo |
And what of the book of Job? Or 1 Peter chapter 2? This post from Billy Graham himself seems aproperate right about now https://billygraham.org/story/suffering-why-does-god-allow-it/ To the original poster, I'm still praying things turn around for you |
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TuscaroraBorealis |
ozarkpaddler: "TuscaroraBorealis: "Romans 8:17-18 helps give me perspective. You speak wisely. Luke 9:23 confirms the Romans passage. Where Jesus himself says, "If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me." A 1st century Jewish audience (which was Jesus' audience) would have immediately understood the "cross" reference as the worst kind of suffering. Here's something that helps put this radical teaching into perspective. Suffering, both Christ's and ours is not an end in itself, but rather a bridge to eternal life. It is by our suffering that we participate in Christs' own sacrifice, and through it, come to glory of his resurrection. Peace comes from the sure hope that death does not have the final victory. Or as C.S. Lewis said' "we are made for another world." See John 15:18-19 Sufferings in this life are inevitable. But, they become meritorious when we unite them to those of Christs'. |
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scat |
Best of luck with your ankle. I have a broken ankle story, but I’ll save it for now. Cheers, scat |
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mjmkjun |
offroadjeeper, these bumps in our pathways bring on changes and calamities that don't appear to be good or easy to understand at first but are a (hidden) blessing in the long haul. Tru dat. I've seen this phenomenon revealed in my own life and have observed it in other lives. The abruptness is tough, though. I hope you heal fast and both of you are on the rebound and will be happier than before. |
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ozarkpaddler |
scat: "I’m not mad at God. I don’t think Jesus would have a problem with me. He would just be cool and rub some dirt on my forehead, bless me for I am a sinner, and send me on my way. God might take a second look. He seems like more of a hard ass. Well, before that day comes I wouldn’t mind if he could stop kicking me in the nuts on a regular basis. The best part of being hit in the head with a hammer is when it stops. It takes a hard head. Heheheh, how can someone NOT be cheered up by your posts, Scat (LOL)? You have such a funny sense of humor and I think your trials have served to stimulate it further! |
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ozarkpaddler |
Spartan2: "Well, I'm having a rough start to 2018 also, but after reading all of this, I am not sure I want to share. Blessings on all of you." There's always that e-mail icon, my friend! Here's a nice devotion I just read for you and Offroadjeeper. Praying for the "Spartans" and the "Jeeper" families! "No Fear" |
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Spartan2 |
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ozarkpaddler |
Spartan2: "Thanks, Terry. I just don't want to start any theological battles. :-) After all, it is only a hip replacement, and assuming I come out OK after the surgery, it should improve my 2018, not make it worse. But your prayers are appreciated, and I assume my husband will appreciate them, too, as he will have to be doing the meals and the laundry for a while." No such thing as a "Simple" surgery, they are all an "Insult" to the body and mind. And a hip replacement is not "Simple." Hope all goes well and you come out stronger on the other side! I cannot stress the two words "Physical therapy" enough |
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boonie |
Spartan2: "Thanks, Terry. I have had two knee replacements, so I am quite familiar with the Total Joint Replacement Physical Therapy facility in our town. They will look at me when I arrive and say, "What? You again?"" I hope it goes well, Spartan 2, and also for you offroadjeeper. My father's had a lot of joint replacements - three knees and two shoulders. He says, "Do you know the difference between a therapist and a terrorist? You can negotiate with a terrorist! He probably needs another knee replacement, but is not keen on going through it at age 93. Good luck to you both. |