Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Listening Point - General Discussion :: Best Town for Weather Report?
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quark2222 |
Since most weather goes from west to east, it is decently accurate for the middle of the BWCA. Their radar is quite good. Once you use the Grand Marais airport location, the weather is pretty much passed by the whole BWCA. Plus, the weather at the end of the Gunflint is often a lot different than at the GM airport, which is only a little ways up the hill from Lake Superior. I may be wrong, but I think the GM airport is near Devil Track Lake, which is not that far from Grand Marais. From many earlier great posts, I would imagine that Whitewolf would be the guy to give the definitive answer. Tomster |
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thistlekicker |
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AJ2008 |
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bwcadan |
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LindenTree3 |
quote bwcadan: "I take a weather radio and find their forecast reliable and fairly broad based. Not sure where they broadcast from ." The forecast comes from Duluth NWS, they also cover lots of Wisconsin. I'm not sure where the transmissions are all broadcast from either. Probably various areas of the arrowhead, and northern WI. |
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GraniteCliffs |
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AJ2008 |
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jhb8426 |
This is for the Mpls area http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?map.x=197&map.y=146&site=mpx&zmx=1&zmy=1#.V79QjHUrLlY This is for Sawbill http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=47.86296199994874&lon=-90.8869743347168&site=dlh&unit=0&lg=&FcstType=text#.V79RnnUrLlZ Note that in the above link, you can put in the latitude and longitude of the point you want as well. Weatherundergound also lets you use a map to pick a location. This is for Sawbill https://www.wunderground.com/us/mn/schroeder/zmw:55613.1.99999 |
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jhb8426 |
This is for the Mpls area http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?map.x=197&map.y=146&site=mpx&zmx=1&zmy=1#.V79QjHUrLlY This is for Sawbill http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=47.86296199994874&lon=-90.8869743347168&site=dlh&unit=0&lg=&FcstType=text#.V79RnnUrLlZ Note that in the above link, you can put in the latitude and longitude of the point you want as well. Weatherundergound also lets you use a map to pick a location. This is for Sawbill https://www.wunderground.com/us/mn/schroeder/zmw:55613.1.99999 |
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Minnesotian |
When camping on the eastern side of the BWCA, I use Finland, MN as my long range weather forecast. When camping on the western side, I look at Ely and International Falls for long range forecast. I never look at Grand Marais due to the fact they are right on Lake Superior and all the weather on the shore is wildly different from anything happening just 30 miles inland. |
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WhiteWolf |
IF it comes from a site other then NOAA such as ACCuweather/ Weather Underground , Weather Channel etc and on... (I'am not trying to sell you on NOAA,, just the facts-- and BTW-- I have serious issues with NOAA,, but that is for another day) then I can explain what is likely going on -- your likely getting two different model data sets for each location-- one for Ely and the other for Buyck. The are likely the "Same" computer model,, just initialized at different times. This is why you see your phone weather apps "flip flop" in the extended for even the same location. The reason for this is that there is little to none human augmentation of the raw computer model data that gets fed into these apps. Without a trained professional to realize which tool is not needed , or is needed, (picking which model to go with) -- past 5 days -- it's usually garbage in - garbage out and hence the flip flopping. There are other possibilities -- but for the sake of brevity -- I will stop. I hope this helps. |
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AJ2008 |
quote WhiteWolf: "For an extended forecast (5 days and out-- really 3 days out) the distance between Ely and Buyck shouldn't be that much different in having the nearly the same forecast. It shouldn't matter which town you are using at that distance for an extended forecast. If you are seeing large differecnes like you mentioned from a NOAA point and click forecast seen here -- between Buyck and Ely,, that doesn't make sense in my time in the weather field. Send me an email when/if this happens and will contact people in the know and find out why it is like that when it shoudn't be. Yes, this totally makes sense. As always, thank you for your insight. I should also clarify. The drastic differences I was seeing were on the sites you mentioned above. After looking at the NOAA forecasts, there was not a big difference. BTW, You sold me on pivotalweather.com!! Now I just need to research the models more! |