Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Fishing Forum :: Most productive soft plastics
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Wally13 |
Thanks for your setup recommendations. Looking forward to giving it a try. I did some internet searching last night and looks like Gopher Tackle Mushroom Jigs may get the nod vs. ZMan Shroom Z. I like the idea of the keeper on the ZMan Shroom Z. Your thoughts? Also looked like 1/16 oz was best all round size among most fisherman posters but many pros go with the 1/32 size for a slower drop rate. Again your thoughts ? Thanks |
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mastertangler |
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Podunk |
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QueticoMike |
quote bassnet: "As a big fan of the Senko/ Sluggo style, i use a Pachinko, Made by MG Lures in Minnesota.. Tthey can be ordered with heavy salt(tad faster drop) and choice of scent. It is a custom pour place, so if you have a favorite, they can do it.... although they offer a rainbow of colors." What size do you prefer? |
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walleyevision |
Zman swimbaits YUM senkos |
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Wally13 |
I like your heat shrink trick instead of using O rings for wacky rigging Senko's. A couple of questions: You mentioned positioning hook through the heat shrink tubing and the Senko worm. How deep do you run your hook through the worm at a 90 degree angle? Right through the middle ? Also, what "hook model and size hook" do you use for thicker 5 inch worms and thinner 4 inch worms. Do you feel you have to increase hook size when you use tubing because you are threading the hook through the worm and tube? When I use O rings I am sliding the hook right under the O ring and most of the hook is exposed. Also, since I fish Quetico and I have to crimp down the barb ... should I go to a larger size hook? When using O Rings the hook is positioned "parallel" to the worm ... do you feel a 90 degree perpendicular angle with your heat shrink setup gives you better hook sets when smallmouth fishing? Guido Hibdon Shrink Tube Any helpful wacky rigging input from fellow bwca fishermen would be appreciated. Her is another tip I found online while searching Wacky Riggin': Another Senko worm tip |
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BnD |
We use all the same soft plastics already mentioned strike king tubes (thicker/tougher), berkley powerbait 3” tails (Walleye white and chart.), Zman zenkers (a little slow and fussy but effective), Zman shad. We use a lot of soft plastic and our biggest concern with soft plastics is the weight really adds up so we use as much Zman products and super glue as we can to reduce weight. |
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mastertangler |
What do you use to heat the tubing? I typically use a propane torch when working electrical connections but something tells me that might not work so well on a worm. Do you rig your wacky worms before you go? Have any problems melting the worms? |
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BnD |
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Nomadmusky |
1. 3" Mister Twister curly tail grub: white, char, and black over a green tail if I can find it. I bring a handful of jigs and some spinner harnesses, (think a beetle spin), and I can fish any depth of water with that simple set up. It's always been good to me. Nomad |
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bassnet |
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carmike |
Soft plastic jerkbaits Curly tails Tubes Senkos Gulp minnows If they won't bite on one of those, I'm changing lakes. :) |
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oth |
quote lundojam: " " I usually wacky rig like this; often with an o-ring and often with a nail weight or screw in flat end. you can also do a drop shot rig. I like the nail weight better in river or narrows/current. Also; on a curly tail grub....I have taped down the grub tail flat , masked off the grub body and spray-painted ONE flat side of the tail for extra attraction. There are times when this turns the bite ON. Usually siver to a white grub or gold on a black. This tip has pleasantly surprised me more than once when the bite was slow for whatever reason. My favorite "factory" color list on grubs includes a salt/pepper smoke clear or pearl and on senkos I prefer a green cast. |
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gqualls |
#1 : Three inch curly tail in smoke/flake color scheme fished on an unpainted 1/8 ounce ball jig head. #2 : Three inch curly tail in motor oil color scheme fished on an unpainted 1/8 ounce ball jig head. #3: 4 inch worm with curly tail (black, brown, watermelon) on a 1/16 ounce Charlie Brewer slider head. I usually do not fish deep water. My largest Pike and Walleye have been caught on one of these soft plastics. I have never gone to the BWCA without a good supply of plastics and jig heads. Thanks for all the other ideas. I do have some zman baits but have not had a chance to fish them yet. |
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GBTG |
Why do the elaztech baits have a different name every year....... Our we in jeopardy of them going away..... My favorite plastics in the BWCA are the Moxi in orange red core and the ZTOO in ice both on 1/4 to 3/8 oz BFishn precision jigs sometimes with a small spin in front. |
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bassnet |
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QueticoMike |
quote bassnet: "Well, QM, i have purchased a jig mold and Some Zman products.... time to start pouring, doing some reading(while bow hunting!), and get ready for a Ned Rig spring!........might extend it into the summer........." Let me know how it goes, Good Luck! |
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MeatGun |
Berkeley 3" power bait grubs- chartreuse or black Toss up between Senkos (297) and tubes ( currently I like Mizmo). I had some fun experimenting with Jackall clone fry on a drop shot rig for walleye. |
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FishermanTed |
For smallmouth 4 inch is the key. They have much smaller mouths and I find we get better hooksets with a 4 inch model. Watermelon -FT |
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mastertangler |
quote QueticoMike: "quote FishermanTed: "Senkos. Its all about a Senko. That was my first thought. I had good luck at Presque Isle using Senkos and mushroom jig heads (Ned rig). |
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QueticoMike |
quote mastertangler: "quote QueticoMike: "quote FishermanTed: "Senkos. Its all about a Senko. I don't know how often FT frequents this site, but I know there are some monster smallies in his lakes up there. Just curious about his rigging. Maybe it is a simple wacky rig? |
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shock |
quote AmarilloJim: "3" curly tail is all I take."+1 on a jig or a jig spinner is always my go to especially if fishing is slow , my #1 color would be yellow , Mr.twister brand |
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QueticoMike |
quote FishermanTed: "Senkos. Its all about a Senko. How are you rigging your Senko? |
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MEPPS |
Gulp Minnows Zulu's |
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Bdubguy |
Swimbaits would be in my top three, YUM Money Minnows mostly. Have only recently tossed Zulus. Have yet to pitch a senko. Want to try Ned rigs too. I am really sold on the Z-man plastics. But I have literally boxes of the other stuff I feel I need to use up... |
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QueticoMike |
quote Bdubguy: "In my early years, used 3" twister tails almost exclusively. White and chartreuse for walleyes, smoke and pumpkinseed for smallies. Then transitioned to jig worms for smallies, 4" green pumpkin or similar. Yes, the Z-man plastics are so much better than Zoom flukes, I am surprised to see that people still use them. If they saw how much stronger and durable those lures made from ElaZtech are maybe they would switch. They last 10 times longer than flukes, just seem like a "no- brainer" to me. I have yet to have anyone tell me they have caught 75 to 100 fish on one fluke. I don't think I have heard anyone say they have caught more than 10 on one. Save some money, buy ZMAN. |
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Captn Tony |
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Basspro69 |
4 inch Berkley black power worm with a Charlie brewer slider head 3 inch Berkley power twister tails |
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QueticoMike |
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amhacker22 |
I feel like some familiarity with plastics will be critical to future Q trips, and a whole lot easier to haul into bwca than live bait. |
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Spookmeister |
2. Flukes/zulus as a topwater alternative 3. 4" Dead Ringers for neutral/negative fish. Similar to Mastertangler's 4" worm setup. No color preference on the senkos. Watermelon and shad colors on the flukes, and watermelon the clear top choice for Dead Ringers. |
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ParkerMag |
quote QueticoMike: "quote AmarilloJim: "3" curly tail is all I take." Kalin's, white or bluegill. |
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bassnetAmbush |
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QueticoMike |
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iwegean |
Dark colors work too at times....I bring too much stuff. |
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AmarilloJim |
quote QueticoMike: "quote AmarilloJim: "3" curly tail is all I take." Mister twister or Cabela's brand. White, milktreuse, chartreuse, black, orange. They all seem to work well. I mainly pitch currents for walleye. |
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AmarilloJim |
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QueticoMike |
quote AmarilloJim: "3" curly tail is all I take." What brands do you use? Any colors more productive than others this year? |
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Podunk |
quote tarnkt: "1) 4” senko or generic stick worm equivalent wacky rigged weightless on a wide gap hook Never had any luck with a 4" last time I was up there. Nothing. But had a lot of with the 5". Same down here in Indiana, 4" just didn't seem to entice them like a 5" |
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mastertangler |
The Big Bite Baits Warmouth is an impressive little package but I have mostly been using it as a Chatterbait trailer rigged sideways. The pros like this bait quite a bit. I have had excellent success however with a Charlie Brewer 4" motor oil worm colored worm (the one with the orange tip on the tail) coupled with a 1/16 oz slider head. This combo on light line has accounted for the majority of my larger bass and is particularly effective in tough situations like clear water and sunny days. Pretty much can't miss, they will eat it if your line is light enough. |
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zski |
quote AndySG: "The Only One I take. Bass and walleye eat 'em. a couple years ago i found a gulp alive minnow in the stomach of an LT that we had for dinner... :-) |
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24kGold |
6" Z-Man lizards in green pumpkin silver flukes grubs worms (Get the idea? I have great luck with pretty much any soft plastic I use up there. Just depends on the time of year, water temp and where I am.) Terry |
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tarnkt |
2) Berkley ripple shad 3” or 3.5” either vertically jigged or used as a swimbait 3) soft plastic jerkbait (fluke, Zulu, etc) |
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HowardSprague |
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QueticoMike |
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zski |
4" twister tail creature: someone i was with a couple years ago caught a nice walleye on a creature. He wasn't even trying. the lure was hanging in the water off the edge of the canoe and wham. |
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mastertangler |
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QueticoMike |
Everyone knows my top one..... 1) ZMAN Shadz - 5 inch jerk shad ( AKA StreakZ, Zulu, and Z-Too ) 2) Strike King Green Pumpkin Tubes ( 3.5" and 4.5" ) 3) ZMAN RaZor |
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timatkn |
Walleyes: 3-4 inch Northland Impulse twister tail or B-fishin tackle 4” AuthentX Moxi. I like white and chartreuse the most I want to start doing more swimbaits and zulus. T |
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AndySG |
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bassnetAlsike |
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