Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Fishing Forum :: Canadian Border - fishing, customs
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timatkn |
But realistically if you venture up into Basswood or Gardner Bay for example for a fishing foray into Canada--what are the chances someone will stay on the water all the time. Most people will land at some point to stretch their legs, lunch, bathroom etc... I don't think it is realistic for someone to seriously fish the Canadian side and not ever land their canoe---but if they did not land then yes technically they MAY not need a Quetico permit. BUT a Canadian authority MAY also determine you are no longer "traveling" because you are so far up into Canadian waters and that they may give you a ticket for being in Quetico without a permit even if you do not touch crown lands. The only way you MAY not need an RABC is if you were fishing along a travel route right on the International Boundary. If you have ventured up into a bay well off of the known travel routes you are no longer following the Webster-Ashburton Treaty --you have entered Quetico. Once again the former is a very unlikely scenario, but possible. There are some gray areas depending on where or how far you plan to fish over the border. Some of it depends on how zealous the Canadian official that stops you is... Better safe than sorry. FYI---etiquette dictates you need to "link it" since you are challenging my original post---- so under your own guidelines you have failed to disprove my post as of yet :) . Also if you are wrong the repercussions are quite severe, if I am wrong what harm was done? |
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snakecharmer |
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freedom |
As far as Prarie Portage, does one go through customs there? I believe new laws mandate a passport going into Canada. Is a passport needed when crossing this portage even if staying in the land of the free? |
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timatkn |
The border treaty covers travel only, not fishing, hunting, or site seeing. There is no Canadian Customs station at Prairie Portage. You do not need a passport to cross Prairie Portage (Just don't pull out a fishing pole and cast from the portage as you are on Canadian Soil:) ) as this portage is covered by the border travel treaty. If you actually wanted to cross into Canada at Prairie Portage you would need a Canadian RABC (Remote Area Border Crossing permit), the Passport or passport card would only be required by the U.S. for re-entry into the U.S. The Canadians at Prairie won't care about your passport. |
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Arkansas Man |
Bruce |
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Moosealicious |
Without it, you aren't supposed to be or allowed to be in Canada. |
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kanoes |
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MJG |
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timatkn |
There was recent changes from the Canadians that you may fish border waters without an RABC at LOTW and Rainy River. Not sure about other border waters? Until this new rule (and that might still be the case) you would need an RABC, Ontario outdoors card, Ontario fishing license, passport or passport card, and a Quetico permit or day permit if the border water in the BWCAW was in Quetico. Also technically you would need to check in at the U.S. Customs station upon re-entry into the U.S. stations in Ely and Grand Marais although inconvenient. There have been posts and reports of Canadian officials fining people for fishing in Quetico on border waters, them pulling out the GPS and showing paddlers they are over the border. Also remember Quetico has a barbless and live bait ban. Even if you are a little over the line no matter what the new rules allow for border water fishing you have to comply with their regulations. The lure on your line has to be barbless and you cannot have any live bait in your possession while you are on the Canadian side fishing. T |