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QueticoMike
03/19/2017 08:20AM
 
Heddon Lucky 13 in Bullfrog color.
 
Bdubguy
03/20/2017 07:42PM
 
I second the orginal floating rap. I typically use a #9 perch - twitch, twitch, pause, crank it down a bite, let it rise, pause, twitch, pause, etc...
 
Savage Voyageur
03/20/2017 09:13PM
 
So fun to post on an old thread by Jan aka Kanoes.
 
cheesehead
09/08/2007 07:25PM
 
then i suggest using frogs! and watch the water explode.
 
marc bates
09/06/2007 07:55PM
 
Early in the evening original floating Rapala in black and silver, later in the evening black Jitterbug.
 
woodpecker
09/08/2007 07:31AM
 
All you Minnesotans hate the smallmouth as an evasive species...and that said......I say although I agree, They are a blast to catch...


Woodpecker

CORRECTION: INVASIVE
 
buz
09/08/2007 08:22AM
 
Hey Woody,

I have luckily never found smallies to be too evasive from my lures, and thats a good thing!!!

As an invasive species, well I don't have a strong opinion, i'm with u, they are fun to catch!

How about a discussion of those Iowans and their treatment of the english language!! (just joking LOL)
 
cheesehead
09/08/2007 12:10PM
 
is it wrong to grab live frogs hook em in the hind leg?? i am more than positive this works.

 
woodpecker
09/08/2007 09:39AM
 
Thanks Buz I stand corrected

Woodpecker
 
kanoes
09/07/2007 09:06PM
 
how about this one? :)
 
kanoes
09/08/2007 02:17PM
 
its not wrong and its one hell of a great live bait presentation.
 
thlipsis29
08/30/2007 08:55AM
 
kanoes,

Rapala Skitter Prop chartreuse frog (I think #9). A couple of buddies laughed at me when I used this for the first time in 2002, but after watching me land a couple of smallies over four pounds that same lure showed up in their tackle box the following year and it's been a staple in my BWCA arsenal ever since.

thlipsis29
 
kanoes
08/30/2007 10:38AM
 
ONCE again...you just cant seem to grasp the original question...

"favorite surface LURE..." singular.

which ONE (singular) :) Jan
 
Bromel
08/30/2007 10:52AM
 
Hey Janet,

If you took time to read my entire message, you would discover that I answered your question. Time to pull your undies out.


 
kanoes
08/30/2007 11:16AM
 
nevermind....lol
 
kanoes
08/30/2007 11:31AM
 
refer to BASSMASTER's post. :)
 
timatkn
08/30/2007 11:38AM
 
geesh---so the guy likes to explain things big freekin deal. It must be a terrible thing to have someone on the board willing to share knowledge.

My second best topwater (first on my list was taken by The Great Outdoors) is D-Con ---those boogers will bite on anything you throw in the water.

Tim
 
Bromel
08/30/2007 11:49AM
 
Hey Great Outdoors,

I am surprised that, as a local outfitter, you would disparage the smallmouth bass? I would bet that about 50% of your out-of-state customers are coming to the BWCA due in part to the smallmouth bass fishing.
 
spookmeister
08/30/2007 12:52PM
 
My favorite is the Heddon Super Spook. Works best in slightly choppy waters. They don't have to be actively feeding--I think it just pisses 'em off and they slam it!

Hey Catfish---what cadence do you use with the big Chugbugs?
 
WishfulWalleye
03/22/2017 01:35PM
 
What happened to Kanoes? I'm new to the forums.

 
Basspro69
03/22/2017 08:01PM
 
quote WishfulWalleye: "What happened to Kanoes? I'm new to the forums.
"
He passed onto heaven RIP
 
buz
08/30/2007 09:17AM
 
Very old lure,Jitterbug by Arbogast, frog pattern. Still make them, but I have 3 different sizes that were my fathers lures, (and I'm holy crap, almost 50) Have to retrieve slowly, to get the right wobble, and its' irrestible to bass if they are looking at surface. And bringing it back slowly and/or stopping and going it, kinda makes it suspenseful for the angler, 'cause you know it will get slammed sooner or later, but when is the question.
 
catfish
08/30/2007 09:22AM
 
Chug Bug 3/8 oz, any pattern. I use them all (Jitterbug, Zara Spook, Torpedo, Jointed Rapala, Skitter Pop) but this one is the best! Casts like a bullet, pushes a lot of water and has a rattle. Out fishes the rest every time. Distant second is Zara Spook (Sorry old buddy, but I have a new favorite).
 
Georgiaboy
08/30/2007 10:46AM
 
Heddon torpedo's No this is not the gun post. It really doesn't matter what color etc. I use the small ones but the bigger ones work as well. If the bass are bedding you can throw anything at them and they will bite. We made lures out of bottle caps one year and tore them up.

 
BASSMASTER
08/30/2007 11:01AM
 
Heddon Tiny Torpedo - Frog pattern, Why the heck do you need 4 paragraphs to explain?
 
Bromel
08/30/2007 11:06AM
 
Because, in my opinion, the type of topwater lure is not very important. This is a discussion board right? I was discussing.
 
The Great Outdoors
08/30/2007 11:04AM
 
A half pound of C4 with blasting cap.

Paint frog green, float on surface.

When bass approaches, squeeze detonator.

Maybe you can take out 30-40 of these invasive species in one shot with this method, God willing.

Smallies, YUCK:)
 
mongo65
08/30/2007 12:38PM
 
I have good luck with both the moss mouse (white) and a smaller hula popper (any color)
 
ditchpickle6996
08/30/2007 12:48PM
 
I'm with buz on the frog pattern Jitterbug.
 
Trygve
08/30/2007 05:21PM
 
Bromel,

It's not all about money.

It's about watching our native species disappear.

I would trade all the money in the world to go back to 1850.
 
kanoes
08/30/2007 08:47AM
 
whats your choice? size and pattern too please. Jan
 
Bromel
08/30/2007 09:46AM
 
In my 20+ years of fishing for smallies in the boundary waters, I have found that topwater lure type is not as important as fishing topwater lures at the right time of day. The key is to cast topwaters very close to the shore during the first hour of daylight in the morning, or the last hour of daylight in the evening. The water is very calm, and the sun is below the horizon. Since I am normally sawing logs at 5:00 am, the golden hour for me is in the evening. If you cast topwater lures towards the shore during this golden hour, really any type will work. There are many that I would consider using. Zara Puppy, Hula Popper, Jitterbug, Pop-R, Skitter Pop, floating Rapala minnow, floating Rapala jointed minnow, Tiny Torpedo, etc. And in my experience, it seems like the color doesn't seem to matter much. The key is just to drop a floating lure in near the shore during the golden hour. The timing is critical.

With that said, I understand that you have your undies in the bundle attempting to get people to commit to one topwater lure, and if I don't say what my favorite is, then I will have hell to pay. :)

So, if I were forced to bring only one topwater lure for smallies, I would bring a gold and black Rapala jointed floating minnow in size J-9.

In the last two years, I have also had good luck with Zara Puppies. My brothers and nephew call Zara Puppies "crack pipes" because they are like crack for smallies -- they can't resist them.
 
BASSMASTER
08/30/2007 01:25PM
 
Jeesh, methinks Kanoes, Bromel and myself need to get back to the woods and water soon.
 
picci
08/30/2007 02:13PM
 
Looks like Bromel answered the question in his third paragraph.......and yes, my friends and I are the folks that comes to the BWCA for the smallie fishing.
 
Jeriatric
08/30/2007 05:43PM
 
Never could type fast accurately. Spook, not spoon.
 
huskerbrian
08/30/2007 07:00PM
 
EASY answer:

Heddon Tiny Torpedo - Silver

-Brian

 
kanoes
08/30/2007 11:17AM
 
that reminded me of a post i made on "another" bbs.

i asked a simple question about bending branches beavertail paddles.

if you have one....do you like it?

one responder described how much he liked his carbon fiber bent shaft....he went on and on. never even mentioning the paddle i originally asked about.

(shaking head) its not that difficult. it was a straight forward question.

just like this question was.

Jan


 
Bromel
08/30/2007 11:30AM
 
I answered your question.
 
snakecharmer
08/30/2007 12:58PM
 
I have had tremendous top water action with Rebel Pop Rs for smallmouth, largemouth and pike - black over silver. The cupped lip makes this great, low blooping sound when the lure is popped - brings them in from across the lake! A must have IMHO.
 
BigCurrent
08/30/2007 04:10PM
 
I'll take a blue/silver Heddon Torpedo over anything.
 
woodpecker
08/30/2007 07:03PM
 
(Right on kanoes ..one more time..HA)

Black Jitterbug 3" size...


Woodpecker
 
Jeriatric
08/30/2007 03:20PM
 
Heddon Spoon. Frog pattern.
 
The Great Outdoors
08/30/2007 10:34PM
 
Bromel,

I prefer to think that all visitors are coming to the Ely area to catch a true fish, the Walleye.

It's just that only 50% succeed, the other 50% have to settle for "THEM"!! :)

Not an outfitter, just a lowly bait shop person.

I program all bait sold to catch walleye.

Unfortunately, some "do it your selfers" cannot resist tampering with the settings, and therefore end up with bass! :)
 
CaptnDan
08/31/2007 06:08AM
 
Rapala skitter-pop in blue/white
(I was going to say accordion shaped lure that plays a polka, but I thought TGO would threaten to call homeland security again!)

Dan
 
The Great Outdoors
08/31/2007 08:04AM
 
CaptnDan:

You would be correct in that assumption about calling homeland security:)

However, as I ponder your accordian shaped/polka playing lure (threat), I think this may just be the answer I have been looking for.

Assuming that no self respecting Walleye would come into the area with this atrocity present, Bass would crowd around it because they are DUMB!

Eventually the pain of listening to the accordian would have to overcome them. (they are stupid, but still living creatures and can only take so much)

They would dart away at full speed, with those little fins over their ears, out of control, crash into rocks, and die.

A mass suicide, if you will!!

We may be on to a good thing here!!!! :)

We could call this thing, the "Polka-Oreno."
 
keithcatfish
08/31/2007 09:05AM
 
BWCA smallmouth are dumb in dramatic contrast to their southern counterparts. Smallmouth bass are smarter than most of the people in Tennessee. Makes me wonder.....
 
catfish
08/31/2007 09:24AM
 
This lure, the Spro Bronzeye Frog gets more hits than any other topwater lure I have tried. Problem is, only 1 in 20 hits result in hookset. I count to 5 out loud, wait till the fish turns away, set sideways, nothing works. Pull it out of their mouth and they will turn around and hit it agian it is so lifelike. Very frustrating!
 
Bromel
08/31/2007 09:45AM
 
You should add a trailer hook to that thing.
 
Bromel
08/31/2007 10:23AM
 
Ummm, there typically aren't that many weeds in the BWCA where you fish for smallies. I do most of my smallie fishing along boulder-strewn shorelines. Thus, not much need for weedless hooks. Using a trailer would be helpful on that lure.

By the way, thanks for the feeble attempt to drag my fatal bear attack thread out of the archives. We need to find you a hobby. :) Sending a hug right now...
 
Jeriatric
08/31/2007 11:07AM
 
Bromel,
That picture you posted above looks very familiar, yet strangely different. Did you lighten the color of the fish or something?
 
chadwick
08/30/2007 08:59PM
 
when they are on top and I can see them, my bowfishing rig cant be beat. J/K

I am a fan of the tiny torpedo. a nuclear torpedo is the next best thing...
 
keithcatfish
08/31/2007 07:20AM
 
As TGO knows,I drive 1200 miles each way to catch smallmouth. But just to mix things up from time to time, I like to tie on a crankbait and catch a few 6 and 7 pound walleyes. When the bite is tough, TGO's leeches can be reprogrammed to catch crappie and bass too.
 
kanoes
08/31/2007 09:55AM
 
that would sort of defeat the purpose of it being weedless. :)
 
snakecharmer
08/31/2007 12:29PM
 
Hmmmm. Yeah. I can't quite put my finger on it, but something is definitely different...hmmmm...now what is it...hmmmm.
 
moose plums
08/31/2007 04:40PM
 
I like the hula popper...frog pattern.
By the way I was happy to see the fatal bear attack thread again.....Memories... :)
 
overthehill
08/31/2007 07:07PM
 
Storm's CHUG BUG
 
chadwick
08/31/2007 07:57PM
 
set the hook in 2-3 seconds with those soft frogs, not 5
 
HighnDry
03/21/2017 06:26PM
 
Pop-R about 3" in length, green/frog pattern.
 
yogi59weedr
03/21/2017 07:52PM
 
Keep someone in your thoughts and they live forever...
 
Basspro69
03/20/2017 07:30AM
 
quote amhacker22: "Some classic Kanoes happening on this thread!"+1
 
Savage Voyageur
03/20/2017 09:09AM
 
Heddon super spook jr in Florida bass color.
 
missmolly
03/20/2017 10:33AM
 
quote Basspro69: "Original Floating Rapala"


Same. F13 because it casts a good, long ways and orange to see it in the chop or mist.
 
amhacker22
03/20/2017 12:09AM
 
Some classic Kanoes happening on this thread!
 
Basspro69
03/20/2017 07:31AM
 
Original Floating Rapala
 
Bumstead
03/20/2017 07:34AM
 
quote Basspro69: "Original Floating Rapala"


I'd say mine is Heddon Tiny (or next size larger 'Baby') Torpedo in Bullfrog, which makes me think I need to try the Lucky 13 bullfrog that QMike esteems so highly.


Basspro, can you give me a little more info on the floating rap on the surface (i.e. some preferred colors, sizes, retrieve methods)???? Thanks!
 
Basspro69
03/20/2017 02:49PM
 
quote Bumstead: "quote Basspro69: "Original Floating Rapala"



I'd say mine is Heddon Tiny (or next size larger 'Baby') Torpedo in Bullfrog, which makes me think I need to try the Lucky 13 bullfrog that QMike esteems so highly.



Basspro, can you give me a little more info on the floating rap on the surface (i.e. some preferred colors, sizes, retrieve methods)???? Thanks!"
I really believe the color isn't as important as letting it sit on the surface long enough before the first twitch. I experiment with this and then it's twitch sit, twitch sit. If its not hit within about 10 feet of the original starting spot I burn it back subsurface to start over. There have been some vicious strikes doing this also but its rare.
 
Hoaf
03/20/2017 02:07PM
 
quote amhacker22: "Some classic Kanoes happening on this thread!"
lol for sure!


My favorite sm bass lure is the one that doesn't catch them. :)