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Kiporby
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quote Mocha: "well, i DO have the exped7! i inflated it after reading the responses that it is an insulated mat. it may still be but i discovered one of the chambers is lopsided. stuffed it in the sleeve of my sleeping bag to see if it would "really" bother be for 10 nights and the answer was yes.
there were some great other options listed here but i decided to get the new pad. as it turns out i got some other stuff too since i had LOTS of amazonprime reward points!
giddyup; thanks for your offer, very generous."
Sheryl, if your exped failed. Call them, they are really good about replacing their products. You'll get a brand new one, no questions asked. I've done that twice in the past.
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yellowcanoe
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aah the dreaded mat hernia.. It's happened to me.. on a trip though not in storage.. Somehow the weld failed.
Send it back to Exped..You might call first as IIRC they might just want some numbers off the pad and a picture.
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boonie
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quote keth0601: "Hope you enjoy the xtherm. I love mine. All things considered I think it's the best pad out there."
I like mine, too. It's very light, warm, comfortable, compact.
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Mocha
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BAAHHHH!!!!
heading north this next weekend for a 10 day trip and discovered my sleeping pad is NOT the insulated kind. supposedly the temps are supposed to be lower than normal plus the first 1/2 of the trip cold, rainy, chance of snow/freezing rain. been researching where/how to get one quickly.
options: use my exped7 in conjunction with a foam pad such as a packlite. this is the cheapest option but doesn't save any space.
bite the bullet and pick up a Thermarest neoair Xtherm (and probably get a second job to pay for it!)
i used a Klymit pad last October and it was not warm enough so i sold that and apparently forgot to replace it!
suggestions???
and, now thinking i need to upgrade my knee high rubber boots to something insulated!
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Mocha
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quote unshavenman: "I think you may need the Exped Downmat UL7 .
I have a standard width/length one that still has the wrapping on it if you are interested; I'll never use it now that I'm hanging. I think I paid about $135.00 for it and would part with it for the same. I'm in the Twin Cities so PM me if you like......."
i have a big agnes sleeping bag with the sleeve on the underside that the pad slides into. the bag is slightly tapered, not a true mummy. it's about 5 inches narrower than your pad. i'll pm you.
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Mocha
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where are you located?
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giddyup
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Central Illinois
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Jaywalker
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quote muddyfeet: "Rubber boots will be fine. Amy and Dave used them well into snow/ice season. Double up on wool socks. "
I add a wool felt insole to mine for that near freezing zone. Makes a world of difference.
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keth0601
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Hope you enjoy the xtherm. I love mine. All things considered I think it's the best pad out there.
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yellowcanoe
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A Ridgerest So Lite could be handy.. Much better than those Wal Mart pads and a size S is probably enough
Ridgerest
You will no doubt find other uses for it. We use ours in the winter for a sitting pad on snowshoe outings.
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LilyPond
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Exactly which Exped mattress do you have? If it's the Synmat 7 it is insulated and it will be warm enough in this season. It's a four-season mattress. I have often used it at 25 degrees.
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Mocha
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well, i DO have the exped7! i inflated it after reading the responses that it is an insulated mat. it may still be but i discovered one of the chambers is lopsided. stuffed it in the sleeve of my sleeping bag to see if it would "really" bother be for 10 nights and the answer was yes.
there were some great other options listed here but i decided to get the new pad. as it turns out i got some other stuff too since i had LOTS of amazonprime reward points!
giddyup; thanks for your offer, very generous.
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SaganagaJoe
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Have a good trip Sheryl.
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nctry
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Second the liner... it shouldn't get below freezing.
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jeroldharter
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cheap options: space blanket below and sleeping bag liner within plus appropriate sleepwear. Also consider a fleece blanket cut to size on top of the space blanket.
If money is no object, an insulated Nemo Cosmo with the memory foam topper is hard to beat.
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jeroldharter
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As for the boots: Chota Hippies with wool socks inside are hard to beat for cooler weather.
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PortageKeeper
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"bite the bullet and pick up a Thermarest neoair Xtherm (and probably get a second job to pay for it!)"
I understand why you are considering this pad - I did as well. Instead, I decided on the X-Lite because I knew that it would mostly get used for 3 seasons, which it should cover easily enough. My bet is that the Xtherm would be too warm for most of the 3 warmer seasons so it would have sat on the shelf for most of the year. One thing that I really like about either one is that I could buy a larger one without being concerned about the weight/bulk gain. I will be using it this spring on the pct so I will report back. I already made a mattress cover from a bag liner because I plan to use my down top quilt with it. The Xlite rolls up with the mat cover on it and still fits in the supplied stuff sack.
Anyway, since the Xlite is cheaper, that may be your best alternative.
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BnD
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In this situation. ( I.e. Wanting more warmth not padding) and in a hurry. I would consider just buying a 15 degree bag liner and wear a wool cap to bed and get by with my existing pad/bag combo. Last year we bit the bullet and bought Nemo Vectors 25L after careful consideration of any and all options. You should be able to buy a sea to summit bag liner numerous places reasonably. Nothing kills a trip more than not being able to sleep because your cold. Been there done that.
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Wheeldog
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Even an emergency blanket would work for that matter, fold it reflective side up and put it on top of your current mattress
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thinblueline
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The Exped Synmat 7 IS insulated. Is that not what you have?
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muddyfeet
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Rubber boots will be fine. Amy and Dave used them well into snow/ice season. Double up on wool socks.
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Nozzelnut
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Won't save space; but how about a decent sized piece of reflectix as a base pad?
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OldFingers57
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Another option is to see about renting a pad or borrowing a warmer pad from someone or an outfitter. You can use two pads together. Lots of people use closed cell foam pads under another pad in colder temps. I don't suggest the yoga pads though as they have less r value then a CCF pad and weigh more then one.
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butthead
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"I don't suggest the yoga pads though as they have less r value then a CCF pad and weigh more then one."
The yoga and exercise mats I used in the past were closed cell foam and indistinguishable from Thermarest Blue Regular pads. Just easier to find at local stores. Other big bonus was the choices of thickness and size coupled with cost, I did not mind cutting them to desired size for packing. Specifically used with Big Agnes system bag and air pad to use below freezing. 1/4inch or 5mm thick made it easy to add on top of the mattress, inside the sleeve.
butthead
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LilyPond
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quote Mocha: "well, i DO have the exped7! i inflated it after reading the responses that it is an insulated mat. it may still be but i discovered one of the chambers is lopsided. stuffed it in the sleeve of my sleeping bag to see if it would "really" bother be for 10 nights and the answer was yes.
there were some great other options listed here but i decided to get the new pad. as it turns out i got some other stuff too since i had LOTS of amazonprime reward points!
giddyup; thanks for your offer, very generous."
Glad to hear you ordered a new pad. The Exped Synmat 3-D 7, which I think was new on the market last year (?) is a great mattress, a step up from the previous Synmat 7. The difference is that it has boxed sides, which makes a noticeable difference in comfort. The square sides feel like you have a bit more usable space and you don't roll off the edge at all.
If you have a burst chamber you should contact Exped. They have excellent customer service and will probably offer you a solution.
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mr.barley
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I don't know how I missed this thread Sheryl, but if you haven't ordered a pad yet you can borrow Alexander's downmat 9.
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WhiteWolf
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option 1--- might be bulky but early/late season you're likely going to thank yourself--
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Mocha
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thanks WW! still hoping the weather will shift a bit!
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butthead
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Are you sure the Exped 7 is not insulated. The uninsulated air pads I'm familiar with are AirMat 5 versions, blue in color.
1/4th inch closed cell mats (yoga mats), can be cut to reduce size (when I used them I cut them to 20x48 inches and rounded the corners), roll small, are inexpensive, and insulate well, used on top of an uninsulated mattress.
Stay warm!
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unshavenman
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I think you may need the Exped Downmat UL7 .
I have a standard width/length one that still has the wrapping on it if you are interested; I'll never use it now that I'm hanging. I think I paid about $135.00 for it and would part with it for the same. I'm in the Twin Cities so PM me if you like.......
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giddyup
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I have an exped down mat with the integrated hand pump that you can borrow if you'd like. I've used it on one BW trip. I could ship it out Monday if you'd like to use it, then ship it back when you're finished. Let me know if you're interested in that option and I'll get your address.
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keth0601
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If you use your air mattress with a ccf pad or another pad make sure you sleep with the air mattress on the bottom and not the top. Most people don't realize that's actually the warmer way to do it. The warmer pad should always be closest to your body.
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