Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Rain Pants
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Tman |
One thing I recommend with any rain pant - full length side zips. I've got big feet and there is no way to put on regular rain pants without removing my boots/shoes. The side zips are more than worth their cost and weight. Easy to take the pants on/off quickly - even if it is just a quick rain shower. Before the full zips I would always wait too long to put them on due to the hassle. I'd always end up wet anyway. |
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HighPlainsDrifter |
Outdoor Research Foray rain pants, GorTex, 3/4 side zip. Excellent pants |
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Scout64 |
I guess I will use those for times when I am just sitting around. Thanks for all the suggestions. |
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BuckFlicks |
quote Wally13: "I like Marmot Precip Full Zip pants. Inexpensive, lightweight and have kept me dry. I remember when Man vs Wild was a thing, Bear Grylls wore outdoor pants that had reinforced knees - looked like a rubber patch glued or stitched over the outside knee. Maybe canoeists need reinforced butts. Yes, I am aware of the double entendre and my statement stands, either way. I've always liked Marmot Precip pants. Last time, I bought a cheap pair of rain pants at Bass Pro Shops that I liked quite a bit, and costs less than half as much, with similar effectiveness. |
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Frenchy19 |
quote SteveElms73: "I've had a pair of Arc'Teryx Beta AR pants for several years and they've served me extremely well" The best. Nothing compares with Arc'Teryx. |
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Minnesotian |
I picked up a pair of these earlier this year. Mens Storm UL Zippered Pants Got them for $49. On my last trip to Quetico, I did three bushwacks with them on and they held up wonderfully. No rips, no tears and there were plenty of times it could have torn with lesser fabric. Had them over my Muck Boots and at one point during a bushwack I found a deep, beaver dam made pool and went up to my hip. But, these in combo with my Muck Boots, made it seem like I was wearing hip waders. Pulled myself out of the pool and I was completely dry still. I also had to wear them pretty much every day for 5 days straight and they were just great. |
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zski |
quote walllee: "quote KerryG: "Based on my 50 some odd years of tripping and virtually every other serious tripper I've ever spoken to, I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that the idea of breathable and waterproof is largely a myth - the two just don't go together. Water resistant maybe but in the shoulder seasons that really won't cut it." I agree as well. Perhaps a separate 'under rain gear' thread is in order. |
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wetcanoedog |
I also have a light weight nylon poncho handy because getting into rain gear in the canoe is a hassle. |
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bfurlow |
quote mastertangler: " I have a pair of Helly Hansen that I use offshore and they are very durable and when I am done I merely wash them off with a hose." I think I have those same pants. Breatheable is NOT one of their strong suits. However, they will keep the rain off you for sure. You may be just as wet on the inside of the pants though :) |
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jeroldharter |
My choice, which I have seen nobody else choose, is a silnylon rain kilt. It is completely waterproof, is simple to put on and take off, packs smaller than my fist, can function as a small ground cover. A quick shake and it is almost dry. I think of the kilt as a CCS Lean for my lower parts. And there are few witnesses in Quetico. |
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bwcasolo |
walllee: "quote KerryG: "Based on my 50 some odd years of tripping and virtually every other serious tripper I've ever spoken to, I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that the idea of breathable and waterproof is largely a myth - the two just don't go together. Water resistant maybe but in the shoulder seasons that really won't cut it." This is the most important for rain wear. I bike to work year 'round here in NE Iowa. I own top shelf clothing. Mostly Patagonia. In the winter months, I ride a mountain bike with studded tires. It's a 3-mile commute one way. Layering in wool or their capilene fabric helps wick the sweat away. Pit zips help. Summer rains, I'll still sweat underneath, but with a light capilene shirt, it's better. It's no different when I am paddling and portaging with rain wear. Buy good quality, but don't break the bank over it. I have a pair of REI pants I wear when canoeing. |
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flopnfolds |
It depends upon what you need the rain pants for. If you will be fishing in the cold rain, get some totally bombproof pants. If its just for traveling, my preference is to not wear rain pants. I haven't found a pair that I like to travel in, too hot and clammy. I wear soft shell pants, most of which has some water repellent properties, and if its colder I wear a pair of wool long underwear under pants. I find I don't really get cold while paddling/portaging, even while its raining. I do keep my torso dry with a rain jacket. |
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RackWrangler |
thlipsis29: "I'll add my two cents almost two months late: surplus military ECWCS GORE-TEX have worked for me quite well. Reinforced knees and butt and two external pockets. I've bought mine brand new off eBay for 1/2 to 1/3 the price of any other brand as have two or three other guys in my group. Stayed dry and warm on several trips in May. " +1 I love mine. |
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Pinetree |
moosedoggie: "I'm interested in the group's response. My experience has involved the butt of the pants losing their effectiveness while the legs remain dry. same here |
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HowardSprague |
I think this is them: LL Bean GoreTex Stowaway rain pants But they also have these, for a little less: LL Bean Tek2.5 trail model rain pants I've had very good luck with LL Bean in general. (Now, their Stowaway Gore Tex rain jacket I have now has been fine, but had to treat/spray a couple times. Next rain jacket will be an upgrade to....?...something else.) |
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Johnh |
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VaderStrom |
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BobDobbs2 |
quote Tman this X2 |
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mastertangler |
I also own a pair of E-vent rain pants from Arctexy. They are fine for summertime use although they might be overrated as per the membrane and I do not stay quite as dry as promised despite the high dollar paid. I also would be loathe to bushwhack in these and would fully expect them to get damaged. But for lightness and breathability they are tops. So evaluate what your needs are and the amount of money you wish to depart with before you pull the trigger. Staying dry is not something which is optional on a canoe trip as the unintended consequences can at times be life threatening. |
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Wally13 |
Like moosedoggie I have experienced loss of effectiveness in the butt area while the legs stay dry. Wish manufacturers would put extra waterproof layers in the butt area. I have a couple of buds who have spent some big $$$ on their Arcteryx rain gear and have been disappointed in their effectiveness. I figure I will can come out ahead if I buy an inexpensive quality pant and when the butt area doesn't stay dry anymore ... then just buy another pair. I am in my 3rd season with Marmot Precips and they are still going strong. Not bad for $59 price vs +$250 price. |
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walllee |
quote KerryG: "Based on my 50 some odd years of tripping and virtually every other serious tripper I've ever spoken to, I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that the idea of breathable and waterproof is largely a myth - the two just don't go together. Water resistant maybe but in the shoulder seasons that really won't cut it." AGREE 100% WITH THIS POST !! Sometimes what you have on under your rain gear makes all the differences between comfortable and hypothermia. |
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Scout64 |
Any suggestions? |
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walllee |
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moosedoggie |
I guess I need some "Iron Butt" rain gear. |
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Savage Voyageur |
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