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03/22/2018 08:38PM |
Mad_Angler: "MHS67: "
One thing I was a little concerned about with this rack. When you go on a rough road or come out a steep driveway your pickup bed torques one way and the cab the other way. That is also happening to your canoe. In your case traveling on the highway it shouldn't be an issue. On my last summer canoe trip I used my lumber rack. "
I've wondered about this. I have an 18.5 foot SR canoe and Ford F150. Right now, I use this setup (I have a 2-hole dog box and made this sawhorse thing to rest on that)
This sits at the back of the bed and supports the back of the canoe.
I use foam blocks on the cab to support the front of the canoe. Then, I tie down the front, back and middle of the canoe.
Do the foam blocks flex enough to protect my canoe when the truck flexes?"
I would think your setup would work just fine. Any flex between the cab and bed of your truck should be taken up in the foam blocks. I would imagine that most canoes could flex a
little without any damage anyway . Looks like an ingenious setup!!
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03/20/2018 12:55PM |
Unas10: "If you can access the stake pockets you can fabricate a rack for anything with 2x4s (or 2x3s if you can find them) and deck screws.
Extra points for redneck styling. I once saw boat rack on a vehicle made from oak branches. They still had the bark on."
Yep. Saw a canoe rack made of 2x2's & L-brackets/bolts & nuts on bed of a truck at Mudro entry last year. A quick improvision for the trip it seemed. It was fascinating to observe the triangled-bracing. Didn't look bad, either. Wish I would have taken a photo, now.
Have a look at different designs & prices: U.S. Racks. If you buy one from them make sure you drill 1/4" holes just above weld to truck bed rail brace--so water can drain from tubing else it will collect, swell and split tubing in dead of winter. I learned that the hard way. My neighbor came to rescue with an easy weld repair. Assembled in USA with China steel. Meh.
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03/20/2018 02:08PM |
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03/21/2018 09:50AM |
MHS67: "
One thing I was a little concerned about with this rack. When you go on a rough road or come out a steep driveway your pickup bed torques one way and the cab the other way. That is also happening to your canoe. In your case traveling on the highway it shouldn't be an issue. On my last summer canoe trip I used my lumber rack. "
I've wondered about this. I have an 18.5 foot SR canoe and Ford F150. Right now, I use this setup (I have a 2-hole dog box and made this sawhorse thing to rest on that)
This sits at the back of the bed and supports the back of the canoe.
I use foam blocks on the cab to support the front of the canoe. Then, I tie down the front, back and middle of the canoe.
Do the foam blocks flex enough to protect my canoe when the truck flexes?
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03/15/2018 02:31PM |
Jdawg: "Beast388
what type of hood tie outs are those? What do they attach to under the hood? "
Below is a link. These attached to fender bolts already under the hood. Just remove bolt, slip on the strap, tighten up the bolt. etc.
Yakima hood anchors
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03/15/2018 02:46PM |
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03/04/2018 09:32AM |
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03/05/2018 12:11PM |
DeanL: "This is what I put together with some 2x4's and 2 deck boards. It fits in the stake pockets and allows for the bed cover to still be rolled over."
Yes, this looks like what I will have to do. Except we will be hauling 2 canoes.
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03/05/2018 12:16PM |
Blatz: "Is it a crew cab? I just use the roof of the cab on my Tundra. It's plenty big enough. No different than putting a canoe on a small car. I've had my Northstar Northwind Solo and 17 up there."
Ford f150 extended cab. Need room for 2 canoes.
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03/05/2018 04:04PM |
offroadjeeper: "Blatz: "Is it a crew cab? I just use the roof of the cab on my Tundra. It's plenty big enough. No different than putting a canoe on a small car. I've had my Northstar Northwind Solo and 17 up there."
Ford f150 extended cab. Need room for 2 canoes."
It's not the width for 2 canoes that's the challenge. It's the crossbar, or in your case the cross plank (distance between planks) that is your challenge. Yakima suggest 30 inches minimum. If you have that on your extended cab then you can use the roof. Remember,the top straps are the key to a solid canoe ride on the roof.
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03/07/2018 02:32PM |
Before we built this I used the bed extender in the last pic inverted to go above the truck and spring creeks DIY roof rack for over the cab. I got enough sway from the bed extender for it to be an issue. I had to readjust straps repeatedly. Made for a tense 3 hour drive home the one time I used it for a long trip.
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03/02/2018 02:47PM |
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03/14/2018 08:37AM |
This is the rack I made a few years back, my main goal was that it be able to quickly fold up without tools and be locked in the bed of the truck. Has worked wonderfully for me, completely overbuilt but I also haul lots of metal and lumber with it.
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03/09/2018 05:47PM |
goaljohnbill: "
Kinda begs the question:
How do you get in your truck in that situation?
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03/14/2018 06:43PM |
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03/14/2018 06:45PM |
Beast388: " Below is the rack I built to haul canoes from Iowa to the BWCA. Probably overkill, but did the job well.
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Beast388
what type of hood tie outs are those? What do they attach to under the hood?
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03/17/2018 11:09AM |
This is in a previous thread, but here it is again, all scrap wood. I have Spring Creek suction cup style carrier on truck roof, but you could put similar rack in front stake holes I imagine. |
03/20/2018 03:02PM |
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03/12/2018 01:25PM |
analyzer: "goaljohnbill: "
Kinda begs the question:
How do you get in your truck in that situation?
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It was easier than it looked... I made the student employee who parked the company van that close as a joke go out and move it to a different spot. He actually did fold the mirrors down on both to get them that close and then folded them back out.
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03/12/2018 12:37PM |
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03/05/2018 08:40PM |
Couldn't buy the aluminum and make my own for the two parts for that amount.
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03/05/2018 08:27PM |
Suction cup on roof, hitch mount on back. Cover still works over bed. Just give me a call or walk over when the snow and ice is gone and you are mobile.
It will haul two with ease.
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03/06/2018 12:44AM |
KevinL: "You can borrow mine if you like. I need it from May 26-June 3rd.
Suction cup on roof, hitch mount on back. Cover still works over bed. Just give me a call or walk over when the snow and ice is gone and you are mobile.
It will haul two with ease. "
Hey Kevin, That's awesome. I'll probably be hitting you up on this offer. I've looked at similar setups but just couldn't bring myself to spend that much money for a one time trip. We would need it June 19th-24th. Thank you!!!
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03/03/2018 07:00AM |
MHS67: "Does the bed cover eliminate using the stake pockets? If so this might be an option. However I wouldn't make it out of wood."
That's a beauty canoe.
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03/02/2018 04:56PM |
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03/02/2018 09:16PM |
MHS67: "Does the bed cover eliminate using the stake pockets? If so this might be an option. However I wouldn't make it out of wood.
Just looked at it & we can still use pockets!! That gives me hope. :-)
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03/02/2018 09:21PM |
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03/02/2018 09:53PM |
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03/03/2018 07:02AM |
Extra points for redneck styling. I once saw boat rack on a vehicle made from oak branches. They still had the bark on.
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03/03/2018 08:48AM |
Northwoodsman: "I'm thinking about driving up this year and bringing a canoe back to TX. I was going to do almost exactly what is shown in the picture. I welded receiver mounted bike rack for one of my sons and a bed extender (for long pieces of wood) for myself. For the canoe rack I would extend it back far enough to fully open my tailgate."
On this one I made it wide enough to clear the tail lights. That way I can still open the tail gate. Later, I added a brace from the rack to the bumper to take some of the side to side movement out of the rack.
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03/03/2018 08:55AM |
NoisyWetHermit: "MHS67: "Does the bed cover eliminate using the stake pockets? If so this might be an option. However I wouldn't make it out of wood.
That's a beauty canoe."
Thank you. Its a Fletcher wood canvas, out of Atikokan Canada.
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03/03/2018 09:32AM |
MHS67: "Northwoodsman: "I'm thinking about driving up this year and bringing a canoe back to TX. I was going to do almost exactly what is shown in the picture. I welded receiver mounted bike rack for one of my sons and a bed extender (for long pieces of wood) for myself. For the canoe rack I would extend it back far enough to fully open my tailgate."
On this one I made it wide enough to clear the tail lights. That way I can still open the tail gate. Later, I added a brace from the rack to the bumper to take some of the side to side movement out of the rack. "
One thing I was a little concerned about with this rack. When you go on a rough road or come out a steep driveway your pickup bed torques one way and the cab the other way. That is also happening to your canoe. In your case traveling on the highway it shouldn't be an issue. On my last summer canoe trip I used my lumber rack.
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03/03/2018 11:06AM |
We used to have a 16' aluminum boat, and would use the bunk trailer to haul two canoes. This was the method I used for getting the boat off the trailer:
1. Back the boat and trailer up to a large tree. (Pick flat ground).
2. Attach a heavy tow strap to one stern grab handle of the boat, around the tree, and attach it to the other handle.
3. unstrap the boat, including the front clip.
4. Drive forward about 16", pulling the boat slightly off the trailer.
5. Place blocks under the stern of the boat.
6. slowly drive forward another few feet, being careful not to pull the entire boat off the trailer, just to the point that you can block the middle of the boat, a foot or so back from where it starts to rise.
7. Place blocks under the middle-front of the boat.
8. Slowly pull the trailer forward until the boat rests entirely on the blocks.
9. Now you have a bunk trailer, that you can put two canoes on. If you don't have a trailer like that, look around for a neighbor who does. Or even go to a lake near by, and see if someone has their boat in the water all summer, and has an empty trailer you can use.
Now you are done with the trailer, and need to put it back under the boat. How do you do that?
1. Back the trailer up to the boat.
2. Hook the ratchet strap to the front of the boat.
3. Make sure the stern of the boat, still has a strap around the tree.
4. Put your vehicle in neutral. (make sure you're on flat ground).
5. Slowly crank the wench, and instead of pulling the boat onto the trailer, as it is still strapped to the tree, you will actually pull the trailer, under the boat. When you have enough trailer under the boat, to support the front of the boat, remove the front blocks.
6. Slowly crank all but last portion of the trailer under the boat, until you reach the rear blocks.
7. Remove the rear blocks.
8. Finish cranking the trailer under the boat.
We used this method for a number of years, before I finally built a canoe trailer. If you're going to be a regular tripper to the bwca, I highly recommend building your own canoe trailer. You can pull it behind almost any vehicle, and if constructed properly, you can use it for other stuff, like motorcycles, lawn mowers, hunting etc. You can also rent it out to fellow Iowan's when you're not using it. I spent about 2k on mine, and have long since recovered that money thru a handful of rentals, each summer. I typically rent mine for $100 for a week. I could get more, but I'm not trying to gouge anyone. Be careful though, I would imagine there is a ton of liability if someone doesn't secure their canoes properly and they go flipping down the highway.
Albeit for a few years we had a rack like MHS67 for my brother's chevy.
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03/03/2018 11:29AM |
Trac one is a nice rack, but will set you back close to $400. you could look around on ebay or facebook marketplace and see if someone has something like that used.
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03/03/2018 11:37AM |
"Truck canoe rack" and look through the various threads. You should find some ideas. There have been many threads over the years.
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03/03/2018 11:41AM |
You can see a picture here of a truck with a bed cover, and the rack he is using. It's not wood, but...
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03/03/2018 11:56AM |
made with leftover wood. Solid, no wiggle. Ranger was a great little truck.
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03/03/2018 01:04PM |
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03/03/2018 07:35PM |
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03/03/2018 09:05PM |
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03/04/2018 05:43AM |
This is what I put together with some 2x4's and 2 deck boards. It fits in the stake pockets and allows for the bed cover to still be rolled over.