Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Packing clothes... and knots
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Stephmed |
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ParkerMag |
Knot-wise, you'll cover a LOT of ground if you have a truckers' hitch and bowline down. |
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tombo131 |
Only 32 days here =) |
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Stephmed |
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johndku |
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bct |
Knots - I know many, but ParkerMag is spot on with knowing the truckers hitch and bowline. I would add the alpine butterfly and the high strength tie off next. Learning to make a carabiner clutch can be useful as well. |
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TipsyPaddler |
+1 I use a medium and my wife and kids use small event compression bags. We use them for our sleeping bags as well...large or medium depending on size/bulk of the sleeping bag. Knots: Bowline, Truckers Hitch and a quick-release Sheet Bend and you should be good to go. |
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Stephmed |
bct: "I use two dry bags for clothes. One is dedicated to the dry set of clothes. The other is dedicated for whatever part of the wet set I may not be wearing during the day. I will also try those knots as well thank you!! |
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Stephmed |
tombo131: "Anyone that goes with us gets a 10L dry bag for clothing sans rain gear. Keeps stuff dry and controls how much stuff everyone is packing. I put a few trash bags in the gear to separate really dirty clothes. That’s awesome! Are you all ready to go? |
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Blatz |
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tombo131 |
Stephmed: "tombo131: "Anyone that goes with us gets a 10L dry bag for clothing sans rain gear. Keeps stuff dry and controls how much stuff everyone is packing. I put a few trash bags in the gear to separate really dirty clothes. Mentally? Yeah! Actually packed and ready, heck no =) Going in at EP 14 on Sunday the 10th. Let's cross our fingers for clear skies and tight lines that week. |
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Stephmed |
tombo131: "Stephmed: "tombo131: "Anyone that goes with us gets a 10L dry bag for clothing sans rain gear. Keeps stuff dry and controls how much stuff everyone is packing. I put a few trash bags in the gear to separate really dirty clothes. We are going in the same entry point! We go out on June 11th. |
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boonie |
Knots: bowline, tautline hitch, trucker's hitch, Siberian hitch for anchor end of tarp (tautline or trucker's for other), prussic for attaching tarp ends to ridgeline. |
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TrekScouter |
Bring enough line for a clothesline. Be sure to keep your sleeping pad dry too. It’s a lot easier to keep things dry than it is to dry them when it’s raining! Basic knots: Bowline Use whenever you need a loop that won’t slip (get smaller) under load + Attach a guy line to a tent (or rainfly) without crushing the tent’s nylon loop + Form a loop through the side straps of a pack to hang your pack away from critters Sheet Bend Use whenever you need to tie two lines together to make one longer line. It works well even when used on two lines of different diameter. Taut-Line Hitch Use when you need an adjustable knot to make a line tight + Ideal as an adjustable knot for guy lines on your tent or rainfly Two Half Hitches Use when you need to tie a rope to something + Tie a rope to a tree or canoe + Secure a Trucker’s Hitch after you have pulled the line tight These four basic knots should be all you need to get started, IMO. If you’re setting up a tarp with a ridgeline, the specialized knots below are a big help. See animatedknots.com for great instructions. Specialized knots (optional): Trucker’s Hitch Use when you need an especially tight line + Tie a canoe to a roof rack + Make a ridge line for a tarp Double Fisherman’s and Klemheist Use when you need an adjustable knot to tie the ends of your tarp to a ridgeline + Use the Double Fisherman’s knot to create a loop + Use the Klemheist to turn the loop into an adjustable knot that will hold on a ridgeline Klemheist is a slip and grip knot that some say holds better than a Prusik Siberian Hitch A quick release hitch to use instead of Two Half Hitches, to tie a line to a tree Feel free to contact me if you’re still stuck on the Trucker’s Hitch. Animated Knots could use an extra picture to make it clearer. |
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wifishncanoe |
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em8260 |
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Mad_Angler |
ParkerMag: "... I strongly agree. I love knots and tie down a lot of things. These two knots cover 95% of my usage. |
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treehorn |
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mastertangler |
tarnkt: "Knots are for nerds. No way Jose' |
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Stephmed |
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treehorn |
tarnkt: "Knots are for nerds. YES! These things are awesome. |
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Bumstead |
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Swampturtle |
I like Eagle Creek pack-it specter cubes, I have them in 3 sizes-sm, med & lg. I've found they lay nice & flat, have a handle to move them around. Good for taking them in & out of my GG pack (lined with a garbage bag) or in the tent, weigh next to nothing & hold a good amount in a nice shape. They are slippery, but that makes them easy to slide in a pack. Not waterproof. I find stuff that is cranked down tends to make unusable space. I put my dirty/wet items, mostly socks, in a ziplock then in a little stuff sack. Eagle Creek Packit-specter cube set |
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scramble4a5 |
johndku: "If you have trouble with a truckers hitch, look at a tautline hitch know. Easier to tie, and can be used to tighten/tension a line on tents, tarps, etc.." Agreed. Tautline hitch is easy and effective. As mentioned the bowline is useful too. |
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Jaywalker |
Knot wise, I'm in the minority but I don't like truckers hitches and never use them. I do use bow lines all the time, and taut line hitches (or a slip version of it) constantly, Once in a while I use a square knot or a water knot, and a clove hitch is good if you are into the PCT method of hanging a bear bag. I dint know hammock knots. |
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BnD |
My tip for rope is do not take nylon cord (I.e. paracord) way too much stretch. Take double braided polyester, spectra and/or dyneema. Very low stretch, very high strength and very low relaxation/ elongation. |
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Savage Voyageur |
ParkerMag: "My clothes and personal gear/goodies go in a Sea-to-Summit eVent bag. I have three of these and really like them. One for my underquilt, one for my sleeping bag and one for my clothes. As for knots, I use those Nite Ize figure 9 cord tighteners. No need to remember or learn knots. I use them on tarps, tents, clothes lines, anchor ropes, just about everything. |
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jfinn |
This past year, I have gone to a couple of Gossamer Gear pack liners https://www.gossamergear.com/collections/accessories/products/pack-liner. This seems to work well for me as I have lightened my load. I no longer need the compression sacks or plastic pack liner. Plenty of room in the pioneer for two of these as I load them; sleeping gear/clothes in one- food and other items in the other. My kids like the sea to summit bags ultralight dray bags. Light but I think lighter in durability as well.. Time will tell. Knots have been covered well. John |
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HowardSprague |
johndku: "If you have trouble with a truckers hitch, look at a tautline hitch know. Easier to tie, and can be used to tighten/tension a line on tents, tarps, etc.." That's what I use, because no matter how many times I learned the truckers hitch I always forget it.. can't beat the tautline for simplicity, might be my favorite. |
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OldFingers57 |
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Bumstead |
Relatively easy to learn and I use them all frequently. |
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Northwoodsman |
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mastertangler |
Better than a compression sack as I don't have to dig around to find what i want. The duffel opens lengthwise and all is revealed basically at a glance. Nice! Throw in that they are completely watertight and such that when you carry them they don't hang low. They are the cats meow on a portage, in camp or in the boat. In the boat I like that they are separate and I can adjust the trim by moving the bags around. Watershed duffels |
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sylvesterii |
The Seal Line ones have a block-ish shape that packs better. As an alternative to knots for some purposes, the Nite Ize Figure 9 Carabiners are pretty slick. |
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Selfsuffi |
Stephmed: "How do you pack your clothes for the BWCA? Do you put them in ziplocks? Do you put them in a compression bags and then a waterproof bag? Also what knot is your go to knot for your trip? I’m learning quite a few knots... The truckers hitch knot has me a little confused so that knot is my main focus for now lol. 34 more days till our BWCA trip! I’m super excited!! " I use a 2.5 gallon ziplock for dirty/wet clothes. I use two dry bags for clean. One small 1 liter for socks and towels (dry). A 10 liter for all else. I go in on EP25 on June 18th. Only thing left to pack is clothes! lol I am waiting to do a permethrin soak 2 weeks before. I can't wait....clock is moving way to slow. |
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AdamXChicago |
Northwoodsman: "You can buy a little set of plastic cards from Pro-Knot that show you how to tie 20 knots. I practice and practice at home but when I get in the woods my memory goes blank. These plastic cards are bound together, are waterproof and I have a set connected to my tarp and another set to my Lean. They are the size of a credit card an weigh almost nothing. I bought mine a Cabela's but they are also available from Amazon. I'm going to go on-line right now and buy a set for each of my usual tripping partners." +1 I have an awful memory... |
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TipsyPaddler |
Northwoodsman: "You can buy a little set of plastic cards from Pro-Knot that show you how to tie 20 knots. I practice and practice at home but when I get in the woods my memory goes blank. These plastic cards are bound together, are waterproof and I have a set connected to my tarp and another set to my Lean. They are the size of a credit card an weigh almost nothing. I bought mine a Cabela's but they are also available from Amazon. I'm going to go on-line right now and buy a set for each of my usual tripping partners." +2 This card set also good for helping kids or inexperienced tripping partners learn to tie knots as well rather than stand around watching you do all the work :-) Another alternative is the Grog Knots app on the iPhone. I plan to leave the Pro Knots cards at home this year and get more value out of the iPhone which I bring anyway for pictures and Gaia Maps/GPS type stuff. |
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nooneuno |
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tarnkt |
Figure 9 |
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qster |
With any knot, you really need to practice the knot. Just seeing someone do it is not enough. https://youtu.be/FnlaQHIoCs8 |