Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Water shoes/aqua socks for portaging?
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heypaddler |
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yellowcanoe |
No. Do you carry 50-100 lbs while walking in the river and does the river have ascents and descents that are up to hip high? You need decent foot support and possibly ankle support. There is a reason that portage shoes look like hiking boots. Look at this selection from Piragis a respected canoe supply store |
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Reke0402 |
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proepro |
buzz17: " I bought Keen Newports for last year. Don't drain as well as my old Tevas but more comfortable and have toe protection. Found a rip this year and they replaced under warranty without a hassel. Upgraded to the ones made in USA. |
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boonie |
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buzz17 |
proepro: "buzz17: "My preferred and 20 plus trip method is the Keen Newport. I bought the original leather model when they came out and love them for grip, support when portaging, and the fact that I can go in the water and not worry " Durability wise, I have not had problems. I love the toe protection which is why I originally went with them over Tevas. I do not like them for creek fishing, too much sand and small rocks end up in the toe area which is why I wear old tennis shoes. No problem with that in the bwca to this point. There may be better options out there now. Keeping an eye on the thread, I need a new pair. |
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ducks |
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dahlberg123 |
FYI - Keen also makes a shoe called clearwater cx or something along those lines, sole is way too thin and you'll feel every rock/root underfoot. |
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Reke0402 |
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Jackfish |
At least wear sneakers (or similar) while portaging. Leave the water shoes for camp. |
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boonie |
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SevenofNine |
You need decent footwear when carrying a heavy load. |
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tarnkt |
Several of my trip partners have used similar variations of old running shoes or water keen type water sandals and are very happy with them. |
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Savage Voyageur |
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MikeinMpls |
Not a good idea. They lack everything that is required to portage. Like others above have said, particularly Yellowcanoe, I wouldn't recommend it. Mike |
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Blatz |
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WinstonRumfoord |
The only thing I would caution about with using sandals like keens or watershoes is that you open up your feet to potential pointy sticks underwater. I would never consider wearing hiking boots, personally, but I know plenty that do and they work really well.. While the risk of an ankle injury might be slightly higher with low shoes, the one trip I have been on when someone did hurt their ankle, the guy was wearing boots. Ironically, he was worried about them getting wet so was trying to make an acrobatic canoe-dismount at a portage, and slipped in, badly spraining his ankle. Far too heavy, bulky, and restrictive for me. I love being able to hop in to the water whenever, and knowing my feet and footwear will dry out in a couple minutes. I'd also echo what Boonie mentioned about losing your shoes in the mud. If you do wear sandals or other low-ankle shoes, be sure they are on TIGHT. Digging out a shoe from shoulder deep mud is NO FUN - Trust me on that. |
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schweady |
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Grizzlyman |
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mc2mens |
I prefer a good water shoe, like the Keen McKenzie II or the Salomon Techamphibian . These have been great shoes in the summer for me, especially paired with a lightweight wool sock. I'm interested in the Astral water shoes . I saw some at the Midwest Mountaineering Expo last year and they look like well made shoes. |
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DrBobDg |
schweady: "Here's a story that will make your feet ache: Two of the guys in our group "discovered" the perfect thing -- Aqua Socks... really cheap ones from Walmart -- to wear on our first ever Mudro-Fourtown trip. Great on the beach, and we get our feet wet, so why not? They had no other footwear along. Grown men do cry. Oh that had to hurt... "Whatever floats your boat" but I would never consider light stuff like that. One of the parents of a boy scout who made a BW trip with us was diabetic. Somehow he got the very false impression that he did not need to wear socks. Well you can imagine what his feet looked like after 7 days 6 nights...not a pretty sight. dr bob |
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timatkn |
With that said I personally do not like the shoes you have chosen. Not saying you can’t use them they just they wouldn’t be enough for me and I am unsure of the traction on that shoe. If you are doing a short trip easy portages I am not sure your footwear matters too much but if you are going on some rougher ones try hiking a mile on rough wet trails pre trip to test them. When I look for a portage boot/shoe the. Number one thing I want is good wet traction tread, I could care less about ankle support...does nothing for me. In fact a stiff boot/support reduces my traction and causes slippage. I do like some arch support so I add an OTC orthotic like superfeet to my shoes. So far the Salomon Tech Amphibian has served me well, I am sure there are better options that I haven’t tried yet. My personal choice would not be a good option for others I am fully aware. I would suggest wearing good wool socks with your shoes, it keeps some of the pebbles and rocks out of your shoe and offers a little more protection. T |
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housty9 |
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buzz17 |
Just ordered a pair of arroyo II's for my August trip. Will report back with thoughts. Thanks for the recommendation. |
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Gman42 |
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treehorn |
We've all come across the muddy spot in the portage with random rocks and downed trees across it and been tempted to rock hop while holding a canoe on our shoulders. And we've all been loading a canoe trying to balance on an 8" log sticking above the water. These things are what cause injuries. Whatever allows you to feel most comfortable just walking through that mud or water, and standing in the water while you unload - wear that. I still haven't discovered the perfect thing for me...it's a trial and error process. |
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butthead |
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timatkn |
Gman42: "Has anyone tried these or a similar product? " Sorry never tried, I hate boots like that. Maybe my ankle/foot are different than others but I feel like I am sliding around too much in that type of boot. Also I don't like the high boots if I capsize they fill with water and make it tougher to get to shore...once again personal preference. If they work for you then by all means don't listen to me :) T |
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timatkn |
butthead: "Lots of comments and advice about possible injury. What about simply losing a shoe in muck? Often encountered and a willing shoe/boot remover, you're left with, feeling blind in black soup to retrieve your footwear. What can ya do? I have had about every type of boot come off at some point while slogging through mud--It just happens sometimes. I suppose some shoes are more susceptible than others? |
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ducks |
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buzz17 |
ducks: "I think it depends on the specific water shoes. They are not all created equal. Some are more like a sock with a rubber bottom which I wouldn't portage in and some are more like a hiking shoe or boot but they dry quickly and drain. I have a Columbia pair of water shoes (very similar to the Solomon Tech Amphibians linked above) that have worked well that are similar to a tennis shoe. Currently I use the Keen Arroyo 2 which has a bottom like a hiking boot/shoe." It definitely depends on the shoes. I fish creeks weekly in the spring, summer,fall months and I use crappy old tennis shoes to eliminate rocks getting in. Cold water months in the bwca I use insulated muck boots but don't particularly like them. My preferred and 20 plus trip method is the Keen Newport. I bought the original leather model when they came out and love them for grip, support when portaging, and the fact that I can go in the water and not worry about my feet getting wet. The worst trip I went on was my first one. I wore hiking boots because I thought I needed the ankle support. Those things suck when they get wet, and trying not to get your feet wet is almost worse. Get a good solid shoe that can get wet, gives enough support for portaging, and dries fairly quickly. |
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sns |
Most high top boots really do not provide much true support unless they are super high, heavy and sturdy. I wear water shoes and wet-foot, with a hinged ankle brace on my destroyed ankle. |
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Abbey |
One interesting aspect of having exposed toes is that you pay more attention to foot placement, and may actually be less prone to serious injuries. I would not consider aqua socks and I would choose Chacos over tennis shoes, especially old (ie worn out) tennis shoes. I have considered some of the mentioned water shoes, and I will probably get a pair when these Chacos are low on tread. I have backpacked in Merrell Moab high tops through a creek route (Aravaipa canyon, highly recommended). Those or something similar would be a decent option with wool socks and liner socks. schweady: "Here's a story that will make your feet ache: Two of the guys in our group "discovered" the perfect thing -- Aqua Socks... really cheap ones from Walmart -- to wear on our first ever Mudro-Fourtown trip. Great on the beach, and we get our feet wet, so why not? They had no other footwear along. Grown men do cry. " |
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bradcrc |
My left foot has been pretty messed up since I got back, and after reading this thread I wouldn't be surprised to find portaging in sandals was the cause. One other big thing about portage trails is that many of them are really bad. Like even just walking on them is tricky, now put a canoe over your head, a pack on your back, and a literal swarm of mosquitoes chasing and biting you. The rocks, roots, puddles, logs, etc. are all just amplified. You will slip, you will stub your toes on rocks and roots, and you will twist or bend your foot in weird ways. Wet loading a canoe is easy, and is good for the boat, but after reading this thread I think I'm back in the camp of swapping into some good hiking boots for the portage. |
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boonie |
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mc2mens |
Reke0402: "Well i decided to pick up a pair of Salomon Evasion Cabrios off amazon cant beat a pair for $40 but they look like they will drain nicely and also have good traction for portaging. Not worried about the ankle support i have always had strong ankles." Looks like you found yourself a good pair of shoes. |