Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Blackhawk Canoes
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ZIMTLSA |
Guess the "value" of mine has just went down since now I know there is another one out there. :) So have you had a chance to try the Blackhawk out yet? I have used mine kneeling with the saddle a couple of times along with sitting on a pad on the floor. I have used a standard paddle and kayak paddle. My old body can not take the kneeling very well so looking like the pad version is my go to. I am thinking of installing foot pegs but I hate the thought of drilling holes through the skin. Todd |
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sedges |
I did not know Phil. He may have been part of Blackhawk Outfitters in 1975or6 when I bought a Chestnut Pal there. I had moved to GA by the time he was cranking out new and very cool designs. |
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justpaddlin |
cowdoc: "One missing from that list is the Combi 15.8U There was also a Combi 14'9". I had one and had a buddy with one. Cool boat. 14'9" was the solo that could tandem and the 15'8" was the tandem that could solo. I also paddled an "X-boat" once and know the guy that bought it. But I've never seen that short hot rod. Phil made some nice canoes. |
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yellowcanoe |
sedges: "My Wee Lassie comment was based on the the length/width and how the boat looks. I don't think any of the manufactured Wee Lassie hulls are exactly like the Rushton version. The Rushton plans have a 9 5/8 depth, Wenonah's copy has a 10" depth. It looks like this Blackhawk version maybe a little deeper, which I would want if I was going to use that pedestal. You'll need solid high and low braces and good reflexes to stay dry regardless of the depth. The problem is the lack of cross section diagrams. In any boat hull shape matters and we just don't get the whole picture from a side view even factoring in keel shape and depth. The Rushton design was copled pretty well by Pete Hornbeck and with the constant flare hull ( again not visible from the side) was incredibly stable. His Lost Pond was a similarly sized canoe and it was not easy to fill with water! Not meaning to start an argument but isn't it interesting about the history/ stealing of canoe shapes? I asked because here in New England Blackhawks are kind of a mystery even more than Moore and Galt. |
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Timmo |
So the question is, does anyone know what model this is? My pics attached. |
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ZIMTLSA |
Thank you, Todd |
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Voyager |
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ZIMTLSA |
10.5ft long X 27in wide, 24.5 lbs. Now to give it a water test and try and figure out what it is. |
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yellowcanoe |
ZIMTLSA: "I do think it will dance more then my Magic. Going to keep the hips loose." Well it will dance but you might dance faster and get wet. Its a small boat for short small folks. Yes its WAY different from the Magic |
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sedges |
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kona |
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yellowcanoe |
sedges: "It is a copy of a Rushton Wee Lassie. It would work with the pedestal for maybe 110lb or less and even then must be a pretty competent paddler. It was designed to sit on the bottom. I had never heard of Blackhawk making one. Are we sure that BLQ is the Blackhawk code?" Where did you get that history? I haven't seen this particular Blackhawk but have seen other Blackhawk models. They all were 12 inches deep.. Wee Lassie was much less deep ( at least in the Rushton form) Curious, did you know Phil Siggelow? |
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justpaddlin |
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LittleRiver |
Voyager: "From the looks of the hull and dimensions it should be pretty " tender". ( tippy)" I thought the opposite. I thought it looks a lot more stable than the solo whitewater boats of a similar length I've paddled. Paddled kneeling, with kneepads glued down in the chines, it will handle just fine. |
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DanCooke |
Stolen from an old Paddling.net post by "Bob" a Blackhawk canoe lover "– Last Updated: Aug-21-13 10:23 AM EST – Actually there was more than one Blackhawk tandem. 1. Phantom 2. Watersmeet And there was more than 7 solos. 1. Shadow 11'7" 2. Shadow 13' 3. Shadow 14'6" 4. Shadow SS Special 15'8" 5. Ariel 6. Zephyr 7. Starship 8. Covenant 9. Nighthawk(outfitted w/pedestal) aka Fishhawk(outfitted w/ wood/cane seat. 10. Proem Additionally, a model called the Kittyhawk was offered for sale in 1988(other years?). It was 12'2" in length. The Nighthawk & Fishhawk had the same hull, 13'3" in length. I have also seen a listing in 1992 of a Blackhawk called a Pro Star. I believe this to be nothing more than an adaptation(minor changes in depths) of the Starship. |
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cowdoc |
The Solo Plus of the Blackhawk fleet |