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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Permethrin
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| Amok |
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| jcavenagh |
Any overshirt or fleece jacket can be sprayed, too. Don't use on t-shirts, underwear or sleepwear, but just about anything else seems OK. |
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| fitgers1 |
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| LoneWolf |
quote jjjds1999: "quote boonie: "quote LoneWolf: "Fleet Farm, REI, and Gander Mountain both carry Repel's version. I looked again this year at Walmart and didn't find it. At Fleet Farm they were out, and I did get it at Gander Mountain. However, they had switched over to the Ultrathon brand. |
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| croixboy96 |
$4 a quart. Can't beat that. croixboy |
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| PINETREE |
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| vickieh69 |
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| SunCatcher |
SunCatcher Sawyer website for using permetherin |
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| nojobro |
PS...hope I spelled it right. |
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| Savage Voyageur |
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| KevinL |
Past Thread Mix it up in a garbage can and allow everything to soak for a couple hours. Then I put rubber gloves on and wring it all out and hang on the clothes line to dry. I also do my tarp and tent. If one of the little critters follows you into the tent they just magically disappear. They don’t seem to bother you under the tarp either. Much like having a screen porch. |
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| Rob Johnson |
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| nojobro |
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| LoneWolf |
Also, the description under REI's "Specs" on this is WRONG. It says it's active ingredient is DEET. However, just pan over the label with the zoom tool and you can see the "Permithrin.........0.50%" REI Ultrathon link. |
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| Humdinger |
quote croixboy96: "I just got a bottle of Equine Fly Spray from Fleet Farm. A qt on sale for $4. I'll have to look at this if the smell is better. Two of us had treated our clothes and wore them on the way up to BWCA last year and I think the smell almost killed our car mates. |
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| PINETREE |
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| nojobro |
We were at our cabin this weekend and I found a deer tick crawling up my leg. Ewww. Did not see any wood ticks, though. The cabin is in a high lyme's disease incidence area (the BW is not, though). |
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| croixboy96 |
http://www.fleetfarm.com/catalog/product_detail/horse-supplies/fly-pest-control/sprays/farnam-bronco-e-equine-fly-spray-plus-32-oz It's citronella scented, hopefully that is good too. I dunno. For $4 I thought I couldn't go wrong. Spraying boots, pants, hat, etc.... Croixboy |
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| Humdinger |
quote LoneWolf: "quote Humdinger: "I'll have to look at this if the smell is better. Two of us had treated our clothes and wore them on the way up to BWCA last year and I think the smell almost killed our car mates." I think it was a Coleman product (green can, definitly not sawyer or repel) I bought at mills fleet farm. I have to treat my clothes again for next weeks trip so maybe the new can won't smell as bad. |
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| CanoeKev |
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| bumabu |
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| serenityseeker |
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| Scout64 |
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| fitgers1 |
I have not heard of it causing any reactions to anyone from the people I have spoke with. Just don't breath the mist in and wash it off your skin if the liquid gets on you. Supposed to be non-tox to humans after it has dried. I have looked into the Mills Fleet Farm stuff. They do have the better bargain by buying the type used in barns and stables. |
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| timhutson1 |
I hear all these stories about people going up there and finding 10 ticks over a weeks time when not using permethrin. I don't mean to be a story-topper but last May during a morning turkey hunt (6 hours or so) I found 46 ticks on me. And that is after I started counting. about 30-35 of which were attached. The worst part is that I had a really bad reaction to about 10 of the bites and still have itchy, hard bumps from it more then a year later. Anyway, with that said, I am soaking all my cloths and tarps in Permethrin this year (debating on the tents). I will also be using a thermacell for the first time and bringing plenty of Deet. Never been up there in July but I planned to be prepared for battle. |
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| Humdinger |
Recently bought a new blue can of Coleman permenthrin spray and treated my clothes tonight and got major frustrated. The spray can dribbled out worst than the worst shaving cream can I have ever used and it wouldn't spray. I used a green can last year with luck and the blue can is terrible. Wonder if anyone else had similar luck with the coleman product or I should switch to another brand. |
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| Amok |
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| LoneWolf |
quote Humdinger: "I'll have to look at this if the smell is better. Two of us had treated our clothes and wore them on the way up to BWCA last year and I think the smell almost killed our car mates." Once my sprayed on permethrin dried I don't remember any smell or have heard comments on it. Anyone get a smell from theirs? Humdinger, what type were you using? |
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| croixboy96 |
I also sprayed my hammock, my boots, my pack (why not?), my hat, and Iam also wondering what else I can spray? Hankerchief? I guess after one more night outside, there will be no smell at all. Croixboy |
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| warden28 |
My problem with the permethrin was that although I line dried all treated clothing for nearly 4 days in hot sunlight, and popped them in a dryer for a cycle, I still noticed a distinct greasy feeling when wearing them, and when I stepped into the water to pick up or put down the canoe after the portages, I could see a little oil slick spreading out from my legs. I felt awful about that part, and uncomfortable with the greasy feeling. I did seem to attract a lot fewer mosquitos and black flies though. I had also sprayed the tent, and have to say I am impressed with the performance there. We left the tent door wide open whenever we weren't sleeping in it, and had zero insects bugging us when we headed to bed, even in fairly buggy campsites. With soaking you may get more bang for your buck, but spraying is much simplier and seemed just as effective. Just my 2¢. |
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| Jeriatric |
I apply permethrin on two pair of pants about a week before entering the BW. There is a wash and an a spray, I use the spray. It is good for six weeks and six washes. Sawyer is the brand I am familiar with and use. I buy it at a local sporting goods store but I see it listed online for REI. I have never gotten a tick in the BW. |
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| TwoByGreenCanoe |
Use it any time before your trip. Just soak or spray your cloths and line dry outside till dry (do not wear till dry). No need to do undergarments. At the minimum spray the bottom of pant legs, waistline, neckline and arm openings. Works also on bandannas and hats. |
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| LoneWolf |
Looks like this: Repel Permanone Just spray it on in a well ventilated area. Pants and socks I lay on a tarp in garage and spray one side at a time. Shirts I hang on a hanger and walk around it and spray. I also spray around the entry and entry mesh on my tent. |
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| boonie |
quote KevinL: "" When you spray your tent do you just leave it up for a couple of days to dry and do you spray the inside at all?" MUTZ.....I don’t spray I make up enough solution that I dip everything into it and then let it sit for a couple hours. I then put rubber gloves on and ring out as much as I can and then hang on the clothes line to dry. It will drip for awhile before drying. Clothes go into a garbage bag until ready to go. Tent and tarp just go into their stuff sacks. I don’t do the tent fly. I try to do all of this the last week or so before I go. When I’m done with the solution I put the remainder in my Hudson sprayer and hit the yard with it. Works better than the stuff that they spray the town with for mosquitoes. " Why don't you do the tent fly? |
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| boonie |
quote LoneWolf: "Fleet Farm, REI, and Gander Mountain both carry Repel's version. This is what I have found at WalMart and used to spray clothes, boots, and gear. |
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| Bannock |
A couple of things: 1) It kills all kinds of insects including honey bees and other useful little guys. That is why I keep it on the clothesline as short of time as possible. 2) It's not good for fish. Therefore do not spray swim wear or anything that goes into the water. For instance, I do not spray my boots. It is great stuff and works very well. |
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| Hamm0cker |
Wear gloves and hang stuff to dry. It is not the best stuff when still in liquid form, but it is inert when it has had a chance to dry. West nile, lymes, etc are NOT exactly rare anymore. The perceived risk of exposure to permethrin (false when used correctly) pales compared to the very real risk of insect transmitted diseases. DEET works really well also, but is tough on my plastics and nylons and I don't like the feel/smell of it. I use it sparingly, take advantage of well draining campsites and wind exposure (hooray hammocks!), and a thermacell if it gets really bad (which isn't that often). YMMV |
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| serenityseeker |
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| mutz |
quote KevinL: "I have posted this before but if you look at this link is the concentration that I use to make my own. (Towards the bottom of the thread) Approximately $16 at Fleet Farm. When you spray your tent do you just leave it up for a couple of days to dry and do you spray the inside at all? |
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| jb in the wild |
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| KevinL |
When you spray your tent do you just leave it up for a couple of days to dry and do you spray the inside at all?" MUTZ.....I don’t spray I make up enough solution that I dip everything into it and then let it sit for a couple hours. I then put rubber gloves on and ring out as much as I can and then hang on the clothes line to dry. It will drip for awhile before drying. Clothes go into a garbage bag until ready to go. Tent and tarp just go into their stuff sacks. I don’t do the tent fly. I try to do all of this the last week or so before I go. When I’m done with the solution I put the remainder in my Hudson sprayer and hit the yard with it. Works better than the stuff that they spray the town with for mosquitoes. |
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| overthehill |
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| KevinL |
quote boonie: "quote KevinL: "" MUTZ.....I don’t spray I make up enough solution that I dip everything into it and then let it sit for a couple hours. I then put rubber gloves on and ring out as much as I can and then hang on the clothes line to dry. It will drip for awhile before drying. Clothes go into a garbage bag until ready to go. Tent and tarp just go into their stuff sacks. I don’t do the tent fly. I try to do all of this the last week or so before I go. When I’m done with the solution I put the remainder in my Hudson sprayer and hit the yard with it. Works better than the stuff that they spray the town with for mosquitoes. " Why don't you do the tent fly?" Guess I don't see the need to. Could if you want, but never had any issues by just doing the tent. They just disappear if they happen to follow you into the tent. I treat everything but underwear and swimming suit (that I bring for shorts). |
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| timhutson1 |
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| LoneWolf |
quote serenityseeker: "I think 3M made a big error labeling this stuff the same as the Ultrathon. people might mistake this for the Deet variety. I hope not, but sometimes people do not take time to read the label well. " I think you're right. When I was looking for something with Permithrin at Gander the salesperson had to point it out to me because I assumed it was regular Ultrathon. |
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| PINETREE |
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| jjjds1999 |
quote boonie: "quote LoneWolf: "Fleet Farm, REI, and Gander Mountain both carry Repel's version. I looked for permethrin at WalMart and they told me they didn't have it. Did you find the Repel in the sporting goods section? |