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SteveElms73
11/19/2015 09:22PM
 
Which do you guys prefer for your back country wood harvesting tool? I'm looking to get a saw for winter camping and have only ever used the collapsible saws. I'm looking for something a bit easier to cut with and am not worried about bulk as I'd be packing it on a sled.

Thanks!
 
kanoes
11/19/2015 09:34PM
 
this one


 
FOG51
11/20/2015 01:26AM
 
I'm with kanoes on his choice of saws, those Irwin saws are wicked sharp, those leather gloves are not in his picture to make it pretty. FRED
 
WhiteWolf
11/20/2015 03:59AM
 
Then the Irwin saw is for you!!!.. As Kanoes posted,, it rocks. Ever been to a campsite where you see a cut piece of wood -- that stops?, close to the camp for it gets too big? That is for a reason. Most saws can't handle what IRWIN will cut. Irwin saw with a little elbow grease will make many people happy that are not familiar with them.

 
SteveElms73
11/20/2015 05:55AM
 
Thanks guys! Are you suggesting the 15 inch version?
 
kanoes
11/20/2015 06:00AM
 
portagekeeper turned us on to the Irwin. I think he tried the longer version and didn't care for it. the 15 is the go to.
 
SteveElms73
11/20/2015 06:04AM
 
Kanoes, where did you get that sheath for the saw?
 
kanoes
11/20/2015 06:14AM
 
quote SteveElms73: "Kanoes, where did you get that sheath for the saw?"
ragged (bwca.com member) makes them.
 
NotLight
11/20/2015 07:07AM
 
I bought a Silky Big Boy to use this winter. I have not used it yet. I wasn't sure what size teeth to get (large or medium), so I got medium. It is about 16" long with a 15" blade. Weighs 14.5oz.

It is not as rugged and may not cut as well as the Irwin, and is more expensive. But, it is very well made, compact, and it fits together so well I don't think I'd need a sheath.







 
Minnesotian
11/20/2015 07:30AM
 
quote SteveElms73: "Which do you guys prefer for your back country wood harvesting tool? I'm looking to get a saw for winter camping and have only ever used the collapsible saws. I'm looking for something a bit easier to cut with and am not worried about bulk as I'd be packing it on a sled.


Thanks!"



Steve,
For wintercamping I end up bringing both the Irwin saw and a bow saw. I find the Irwin great for when I am tromping through the brush looking for trees and harvesting them. But once in camp I find the bow saw to be faster for processing the wood. If one were to fail I would have backup.
 
dentondoc
11/20/2015 08:45AM
 
There is a fairly good discussion of saws in THIS thread.


I provided a side-by-side comparison of Irwin and Silky Big Boy (large teeth version) down the thread a ways, if you are interested.


dd
 
SteveElms73
11/20/2015 09:13AM
 
Thanks for the info guys, I think I'm gonna pick up the Irwin. I like the size of it and it obviously does the job well. Does Ragged still make those sheaths? Those are sweet!
 
butthead
11/20/2015 10:09AM
 

First used the Irwin in Quetico this year with kanoes, Kiporby, and SunCatcher. Convinced me!
Managed to obtain one with a sheath, Thanks Ragged!!! Personally used on 2 trips since.
Irwin and Ragged sheath pictured with my personally modified Sawvivor (now retired).
First use of the Irwin stopped any concern over extra weight and/or pack size, it IS that good!


butthead
 
AndySG
11/20/2015 03:36PM
 

Another big plus of the Irwin is the full hand guard. If you've ever rammed your knuckles into a branch stub, you know what I'm saying.
 
KevinL
11/20/2015 06:16PM
 
Another Irwin with the infamous Ragged sheath and a Wetterling axe for me. I do own a Sven 15" but the Irwin truly out performs.
 
awbrown
11/20/2015 06:56PM
 
The real "beast" of winter wood processing saws is the Silky Kitana Boy.........It is indeed a beast and it's big (and expensive) but it's like using a hand powered chainsaw.

Kitana Boy



 
DeanL
11/20/2015 07:48PM
 
I was very skeptical until I tried it for myself but hands down the Irwin is the best saw I've ever taken camping. Paired with a sheath from Ragged and I'm set.
 
Jaywalker
11/21/2015 09:44AM
 

Intreagingly high praise for the Irwin saw, and surprise me to see that it only cost about $3-4 more than a replacement blade for my Bahco bow saw. May have to try.




 
OldFingers57
11/21/2015 12:12PM
 
I see where the Irwin saw comes in 3 sizes 15, 20 and 24. I take it most use the 15
 
PortageKeeper
11/21/2015 12:39PM
 
quote OldFingers57: "I see where the Irwin saw comes in 3 sizes 15, 20 and 24. I take it most use the 15"
A few people use the 20" but most here agree that the 15" is sufficient and like that it packs most any way they want to pack it. I started with both sizes on portage clearing trips and everyone only wanted to use the 15". Of course I also had my 46" saw along so... Also, Ragged only makes the 15" sheathes.
 
kanoes
11/21/2015 12:45PM
 
quote OldFingers57: "I take it most use the 15"
yes
 
jdrocks
11/21/2015 08:51PM
 
i still think the big D handle arborist saws are more versatile than the 15" Irwin, i wouldn't travel without my Corona saw.
 
campnfish
03/10/2018 10:38PM
 
I took the cardboard cover it came with and ducked taped it. I had a jingle can of that flex seal so I sprayed over the duck tape as well, alittle shock cord and a cheap sheath.
 
overthehill
03/11/2018 09:07AM
 
campnfish: "I took the cardboard cover it came with and ducked taped it. I had a jingle can of that flex seal so I sprayed over the duck tape as well, alittle shock cord and a cheap sheath. " Pretty much the same here
 
Voyageur67
03/11/2018 09:07AM
 
Thanks much-great idea
 
Jaywalker
03/21/2018 09:54AM
 
I know it's an old thread, but since it's been revived I'll add my recent experience. I bought an Irwin 15 based on this thread. Took it out for a 6 day winter trip in January along with my Bahco 24. Got both out at the wood pile and switched back and forth. Being a solo trip and cold, I had to process a lot of wood. By about day 4 I just put the Irwin away and only used the Bahco. I found it easier and faster to cut.


One more thing. On a second winter trip recently I went to section a fallen 6 inch black spruce and underestimated the load. About 2 inches in the cut closed up locking my blade solid. If that had been my Irwin, it might still be sitting there. Instead I walked back to camp to get my extra Bahco blade that takes up nearly no space or weight, put that in the bow, and cut from the bottom. Problem solved.


Hands down, for winter camp I'll stick with my Bahco. I'll try the Irwin this summer canoeing where the demands for wood are less great. I suspect it will replace my Sawvivor folding saw.
 
campnfish
03/15/2018 10:31AM
 
Jezbo: "Have not tried the Irwin with that bullet proof case, but now I am.



Best lightweight packable saw I have ever used for weight and cutting is that not a lot of people have seen is Bob Dustrude quick bow saw.



https://www.duluthpack.com/bob-dustrude-quick-buck-saw.html"



Bob's Saw is awesome, he is a local guy and was a WWII fighter pilot, if i did it again id probably spend the money and get his Saw, case is built in and would sit on the side of my CCS pack just fine.
 
Savage Voyageur
03/10/2018 09:42AM
 
Voyageur67: "kanoes: "quote SteveElms73: "Kanoes, where did you get that sheath for the saw?"
ragged (bwca.com member) makes them."




Hello,



I just purchased the Irwin saw and was wondering if you could provide me the email address or phone number to contact ragged? I would like to buy a sheath.



Thanks"




For future info the tiny white envelope under a members screen name is his email address. Ragged’s email address is canoecommand@gmail.com.
 
Jezbo
03/15/2018 08:05AM
 
Have not tried the Irwin with that bullet proof case, but now I am.


Best lightweight packable saw I have ever used for weight and cutting is that not a lot of people have seen is Bob Dustrude quick bow saw. almost zero weight, take down and comes in 21" 24" 30". built a carrier out of lightweight PVC and store extra blades in it for camping. In fact you can skip the PVC sheath if you like and slide 2 extra blades into the enclosed handle next to the one that is attached to the saw, this whole system with 3 blades is about 2 pounds and compact.


https://www.duluthpack.com/bob-dustrude-quick-buck-saw.html
 
Voyageur67
03/10/2018 09:25AM
 
kanoes: "quote SteveElms73: "Kanoes, where did you get that sheath for the saw?"
ragged (bwca.com member) makes them."



Hello,


I just purchased the Irwin saw and was wondering if you could provide me the email address or phone number to contact ragged? I would like to buy a sheath.


Thanks
 
AmarilloJim
03/15/2018 10:03AM
 

My DIY job with a molded plastic down spout
 
deerfoot
11/21/2015 06:41AM
 
quote FOG51: "I'm with kanoes on his choice of saws, those Irwin saws are wicked sharp, those leather gloves are not in his picture to make it pretty. FRED"
+1 - definitely use the gloves.
 
kanoes
11/21/2015 10:31AM
 
quote Jaywalker: "
Intreagingly high praise for the Irwin saw, and surprise me to see that it only cost about $3-4 more than a replacement blade for my Bahco bow saw. May have to try.




"

one of my biggest goofs. I bought mine at menards and at the time they had them on closeout for under $8 a piece...I should have bought them out.
 
CanoeKev
11/24/2015 07:49PM
 
I've got the Irwin, but still much prefer a good 30" bow saw for serious wood cutting. The thinner blade is much more efficient on larger logs (6"+), the blade is easily replaced for a few bucks, and it can easily be used by two people for really fast cutting on big logs.
 
jdrocks
11/24/2015 08:22PM
 
quote kanoes: "quote jdrocks: "i still think the big D handle arborist saws are more versatile than the 15" Irwin, i wouldn't travel without my Corona saw."


I have not tried a corona, have you tried an Irwin?"



sure, probably 5-6 in the shop right now. use them for rough carpentry, mainly cleaning out the cuts on stringers and rafters, but other odd jobs as the need arises. a few are worn out, and it doesn't pay to have them sharpened. bushcraft, no need, i prefer the Corona, and have three of those which are also used for tree trimming...besides tripping. try a Corona or other large fixed blade arborist saw, might surprise you.


how about axes, want to talk about those too, got a bunch.
 
kanoes
11/24/2015 08:40PM
 
jd, last time I saw a photo of you "clearing a portage trail" with an ax you were chopping about a 6 inch diameter tree on the ground. I still laugh when I think about it. that was one heck of a tough step over.
 
kanoes
11/24/2015 08:55PM
 
nevermind. if I had the photo I would post it. ;-)
 
jdrocks
11/24/2015 09:07PM
 
quote kanoes: "quote jdrocks: "quote kanoes: "jd, last time I saw a photo of you "clearing a portage trail" with an ax you were chopping about a 6 inch diameter tree on the ground. I still laugh when I think about it. heck of a tough step over."




probably had the axe in lieu of saw because i was adding blazes on a bushwacked portage, the Corona saw with the packs, and a long ways off.




i would have used a chainsaw if available."



youre not understanding....it was laying flat on the open ground. wide open ground. easily walked around or over. you may not remember. anyway, it was hilarious. maybe it was just a photo op to display your ax prowess? "




maybe this one...bushwacking a highwater portage that hadn't been used for decades. the upstream portage entry was marked with a huge ancient blaze at least a century old, probably older. the portage trail was clogged with blowdowns, including this mess. that tree was cut twice with an axe, it started out waist high. it took all morning to advance about 1 mile. i don't seem to remember the "hilarious" part of the experience. you carry an axe on occasion, is it just decoration, or for use if needed.



 
kanoes
11/24/2015 09:37PM
 
quote jdrocks: "quote kanoes: "quote jdrocks: "quote kanoes: "jd, last time I saw a photo of you "clearing a portage trail" with an ax you were chopping about a 6 inch diameter tree on the ground. I still laugh when I think about it. heck of a tough step over."





probably had the axe in lieu of saw because i was adding blazes on a bushwacked portage, the Corona saw with the packs, and a long ways off.





i would have used a chainsaw if available."




youre not understanding....it was laying flat on the open ground. wide open ground. easily walked around or over. you may not remember. anyway, it was hilarious. maybe it was just a photo op to display your ax prowess? "





maybe this one...bushwacking a highwater portage that hadn't been used for decades. the upstream portage entry was marked with a huge ancient blaze at least a century old, probably older. the portage trail was clogged with blowdowns, including this mess. that tree was cut twice with an axe, it started out waist high. it took all morning to advance about 1 mile. i don't seem to remember the "hilarious" part of the experience. you carry an axe on occasion, is it just decoration, or for use if needed.



"

that it, thanks for the laugh again. :)
 
jdrocks
11/24/2015 09:40PM
 
yup, decoration, thought so.
 
kanoes
11/24/2015 09:47PM
 
quote jdrocks: "yup, decoration, thought so."
you are right, im a total poser. busted!
 
jdrocks
11/24/2015 09:49PM
 
darn, i thought you quit the posting while drinking a while back, guess not...busted.
 
kanoes
11/24/2015 09:54PM
 
actually, ive never even solo'd. my trip reports were fabricated from other peoples trips and online research. I don't even own a canoe..i picked a bell magic for my stories from reading about them on here, they seem to be a great canoe. 150 miles plus hunter island solo in 12 days seemed to be about right, believable. I threw in the windblown stuff to make me look responsible.
 
jdrocks
11/24/2015 10:11PM
 
too bad Adam doesn't include your edited and deleted posts, you'd be into a 6-digit post count, now that would be truly impressive.


sorry, getting late, gotta run. enjoy your Irwin, it's the right saw for you.
 
kanoes
11/24/2015 08:18PM
 
quote jdrocks: "i still think the big D handle arborist saws are more versatile than the 15" Irwin, i wouldn't travel without my Corona saw."
I have not tried a Corona, have you tried an Irwin? I cant say the Irwin is better because I have not tried a Corona. I have a feeling you have not tried an Irwin which makes me ask why dismiss the Irwin and say the Corona is better? if you have tried an Irwin then I stand corrected.
 
NotLight
11/24/2015 08:29PM
 
quote kanoes: "quote jdrocks: "i still think the big D handle arborist saws are more versatile than the 15" Irwin, i wouldn't travel without my Corona saw."
I have not tried a Corona, have you tried an Irwin? I cant say the Irwin is better because I have not tried a Corona. I have a feeling you have not tried an Irwin which makes me ask why dismiss the Irwin and say the Corona is better? if you have tried an Irwin then I stand corrected."




Anyone for sawing contest, just let me know...











 
jdrocks
11/24/2015 08:44PM
 
quote kanoes: "jd, last time I saw a photo of you "clearing a portage trail" with an ax you were chopping about a 6 inch diameter tree on the ground. I still laugh when I think about it. heck of a tough step over."


probably had the axe in lieu of saw because i was adding blazes on a bushwacked portage, the Corona saw with the packs, and a long ways off.


i would have used a chainsaw if available.
 
jdrocks
11/24/2015 10:01PM
 
man, 25,000 posts, now we find out it's all a bunch of baloney.


an intervention is probably in order.
 
kanoes
11/24/2015 10:04PM
 
quote jdrocks: "man, 25,000 posts..."
are you stalking me? that's sad. I have to admit, Ive missed this back back forth with A CANOEING GOD. nice to see you post again in public and lower yourself to our levels, gotta be hard for you. ;-)
 
kanoes
11/24/2015 10:17PM
 
all bullshit aside jd, have a nice thanksgiving. enjoy time with your family.
 
campnfish
03/19/2018 10:49AM
 
nctry, Sorry to hear about Bob.



 
nctry
03/19/2018 09:35AM
 
campnfish: "Jezbo: "Have not tried the Irwin with that bullet proof case, but now I am.




Best lightweight packable saw I have ever used for weight and cutting is that not a lot of people have seen is Bob Dustrude quick bow saw.




https://www.duluthpack.com/bob-dustrude-quick-buck-saw.html"




Bob's Saw is awesome, he is a local guy and was a WWII fighter pilot, if i did it again id probably spend the money and get his Saw, case is built in and would sit on the side of my CCS pack just fine."






My buddy Bob passed away this past week. His kids I think plan to continue making them, but the whatever canyon one is so much more worth the money. Don't compromise.