Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Trip Planning Forum :: September Weather
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LaVirginienne |
(1) two slickers. Remarkably useful. One is the rain jacket I paddle in. This has rubber gasket cuffs to keep (most of) the rain from traveling up/down to my armpits she. Paddling and portaging. Cannot emphasize enough what a game changer this is. Orvis make them. So do Simms. The other is a calf length Gore Tex cagoule by Patagonia that I wear in camp. (2) long scarf. I use this as a water stop in horizontally rainy weather. Material is cotton/wool. Long. You want to be able to wrap this thing around your neck three or four times and stuff it under the hood of your slicker. (3) sharp axe, hand saw and fire starter. You’ll need to get to the heart of wet wood to start a fire. Don’t forget these. Just a reminder! (4) 1 clothes “dryer” per person. This is a SMALL soft white plastic (BPA) Nalgene bottle. <1 litre. It needs to be small and flexible so you can fit your wet socks over it, one at a time. You will fill this with boiling water and hold it to your core under your clothes to dry all your wet gear. Works like a charm. Two are better than one of you can find the space for them in your pack. Indispensable items. Drying your gear in piss poor conditions is tremendously satisfying and lends confidence to every member of the team. It’s a great way to lift people’s spirits. (5) spare stove. I always carry one as a soloist. Extra fuel is important in case your gravity filter freezes and you need to boil drinking water. It’s not easy to remember to take your filter to bed with you at night, but you really should keep it in your sleeping bag if frost is expected. (5) chair and tarp. Maybe two tarps—one for base camp and one for paddling if you want to daytrip in the rain. Rainy day lunches on the water also call for some kind of seat cushion to insulate you from the ground. Some people bring a crazy creek, some people bring a seat cushion like those made by Wenonah or Granite Gear. You can see that your gear volume and weight are definitely increased this time of year…. Most of that volume will noticably taken up by your warm sleeping bag . I do not plan for single portages in shoulder season but I’m sure lost of bugger burlier canoeists can work out how to do it! (6) remember always to have the ten essentials in your PVD at all times in the event of a capsize. This means fire starter and a lighter in your PVD. If you don’t have pockets for that, time to get a new PVD for shoulder season travel. Remember, in the event of a capsize in cold waters, job 1 is to swim to nearest shore, start a fire, eat as many calories as you can and get dry. Do not go looking for your canoe or your gear until you’ve accomplished that. It’s amazing how fast hypothermia can be reversed with heat and food. It’s sobering how fast it can set in and lead to fatalities without those things. (7) consider burlier tent/poles. My summer tents are two varieties of the Big Agnes Copper Spur (UL and reg). They are tough but roomy tents and hold up to strong winds, but I always take some time to look at the wind forecast and consider whether I should switch to my MSR tent which is way stronger with more fabric/coverage and much burlier poles. It is heavier and bulkier so I mostly leave it in the car—but this is on my mind as I begin to pack for September. If it will be gusting >30 for extended periods in the forecast, I’m bringing the MSR. Tents with two big vestibules are pretty important to me this time of year—both as a soloist and as a tandem paddler. I’m sure I’ve forgotten to mention a few things but this is what comes to mind as I prepare for my own trip, in addition to everything above. |
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JohnGalt |
Jackfish: "Several years ago, we took a trip during the 3rd week of September. The first night, it was so warm, I slept in my underwear ON TOP of my sleeping bag until about 2:30am. The second night, it was so rainy and cold, I slept in long johns with my mummy bag zipped up to my chin. 100% this. Last year it was ~70* one day & cold the next, in October! September is very pleasent, few bugs & comfortable temps. The days are shorter, so plan on reaching camp earlier than you would in July. Good luck on your solo! |
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plander |
Minimal bugs typically. |
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LaVirginienne |
Jackfish: "Several years ago, we took a trip during the 3rd week of September. The first night, it was so warm, I slept in my underwear ON TOP of my sleeping bag until about 2:30am. The second night, it was so rainy and cold, I slept in long johns with my mummy bag zipped up to my chin. I’m heading up soon to out in solo early September. I share this experience—in August! This year it looks like the Old Farmers Almanack is correct and temperatures look unseasonably warm early in the month. These extremes aren’t easy on single portage soloists (which I’m not, I double portage, but I get it), so if you’re wringing your hands here are the main decisions/adjustments I’ve made or will make—hope this helps and have a great trip! (1) tent. I’ve Tectroned my UL tent, and plan on taking it. I’m bringing my 3 season tent with the stronger poles in case the 10 day forecast changes abruptly for temp or wind before I put in. There’s a 2 pound weight difference between them but the 3 season tent is so much bulkier… (2) sleep. I’m bringing my summer mat (Exped insulated) but I’m leaving my summer quilt at home. Opting instead for a slightly warmer sleeping bag that still has a top quilt type feature, which works well for hot nights. On the coldest nights, I’d sleep in my lw silk tights, puffy jacket and pants, booties and hat. (3) layering. Here’s where it gets harder. I’ve packed two packing cubes with camp wear for summer and early Fall, and will choose at the last minute. They differ slightly to account for an average temp swing of 15-20 degrees, since right now it looks like it will be over 80 degrees the day I put in. The big decision will be whether to leave my LW insulated hoody jacket (sweater weight, warm when wet) in the car and just go with paddling in my UL down puffy — which normally I only wear in camp. (4) boots. I’m bringing my Boundary Boots just in case the forecast changes but may leave them in the car and put in with my summer water shoes. High 70s are just too warm for Boundary Boots. Mid to low 70s daily with a lot of sustained rain—yep I’ll bring them. Still only bringing sandals for camp. Extra socks for that, packed in the Fall kit. When I have to make last minute decisions like this involving pricey gear that’s hard to replace, I feel better blacking out the windows so people can’t see inside my car at EPs. I use a Weathertech product of reflective shades built specifically for my car. Blacks out all windows. Great for sleeping in your car too! Have fun packing!! |
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YetiJedi |
You can get just about any kind of weather in mid-September. On average, though, the weather is cooler and pleasantly so. In my experience, there does seem to be a little bit more wind too. There are some weather experts on this site who hopefully will share trends with actual data. Hopefully you have great weather on your trip, and not just because I'll be in the BW during that same time frame! |
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afromaniac |
I have been on september trips where there's frost in the morning. Pack long underwear and have a decent sleep setup with a good mat and a warm bag. My favorite time to go. |
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Jackfish |
The moral of the story? Plan for all extremes when tripping in September. |
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cowdoc |
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LaVirginienne |
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walllee |
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LaVirginienne |
(4) I was speaking of when to bring a stronger tent. I prefer tents with large double vestibules and I will switch out my summer tents for my heavier bulkier MSR tent if the forecast is for stronger winds the whole trip. I don’t even consider single portaging on should season trips. (5) reminder to bring a backup stove and extra fuel in case your gravity filter freezes and you need to boil water for drinking. Try to remember to keep those gravity filters with you in your sleeping bag at night if the forecast is for frost. (6) 10 essentials in your PVD during shoulder season. This includes whistle, fire starter, lighter and high calorie food. (7) chair and 2 tarps, one for camp (bigger) and one for day trips (smaller). Some kind of seat cushion or crazy creek chair for cold/rainy lunches. I think that was it! See you out there in September! |
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TrailZen |
eagle98mn: "September trips are **awful**. Ssshhhh! Stop talking about them. :)" Yeah--our last 6 early-September trips were so "awful" that we've made it our Quetico standard. No bugs to swat, no one to talk to, empty campsites on every lake... TZ |
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loneranger |
I am hoping to have cooler temps than in July, FEWER OR NO bugs, and if it rains, I am perfectly content with sitting underneath my tarp all day passing the time. |
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loneranger |
I will make sure to be prepared for either end of the weather scale from clothes, to gear, to crossword puzzles LOL. I can assure you that even if the weather is absolutely horrible I will still enjoy my time away from all the hustle and bustle of the world. |
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Northwoodsman |
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lindylair |
On Slim Lake in mid September a few years ago we had a similar experience, a couple very nice days sandwiched around 2 cold, windy and rainy days. Luckily that time we were in a more sheltered campsite and had a better tarp setup but it was still challenging. We have been up there enough to still enjoy trips like these and when the sun finally comes out it is truly wonderful. My unscientific opinion is that while the weather is similar I think late May has better odds of warmer weather and less odds of extended cold rainy spells - the northwoods is warming up at that time of year rather than cooling down. We booked another September trip this year but we booked it right after Labor Day, hoping for slightly better weather odds. In the Twin Cities where I live summer continues through mid September with 80s and 90s not uncommon but just 5 hours north of there, I do not think that is the case. Bugs are less in mid September typically and it is a good time to go, luck of the draw on the weather. But I would be prepared for extremes like a soaking 2 day rain with cool temps, or even a coating of snow on the ground at some point. Bottom line, the best time to go is the time you can go. There are advantages and disadvantages of all seasons. Mid September could be glorious if the weather cooperates but even if it doesn't it is still pretty darn close to glorious. |
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eagle98mn |
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mgraber |
boonie: " Weather As people have said and you can see there the average weather is good mid-60's, mid-40's, but is highly variable with a record high of 86 and record low of 30 for those dates. It's not the average temperature that will be a problem, but be prepared for the extremes. Overcast with precipitation and wind chill can make it feel even colder." The record low at Ely for those dates is 20 degrees, not 30 degrees, on September 15, 2011. |