Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Quetico Forum :: The latest news on US/Canada border doesn't look good
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mapsguy1955 |
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TrailZen |
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24kGold |
Terry |
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deerfoot |
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TrailZen |
Guess we'll contact our outfitter and pull the plug on Quetico 2020... TZ |
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MichiganMan |
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24kGold |
TrailZen: "Quetico reservations are now paid IN FULL at the time reservations are made. When we made reservations for our (hopefully) August entry in March, we paid in full. The change is noted here under 'Backcountry Rules', first sentence. Prior to 2020, we only paid a deposit, then paid our remaining fees when entering the Park. Strange, because my outfitter applied for my Quetico entry permit in March and I only paid $53.00 as my reservation fee. Maybe they've changed their policy since then. Maybe I'll call the reservations department to clarify. I was going on what my outfitter told me. Terry |
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marc24 |
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24kGold |
Part of my trepidation is from reading posts in here concerning crowds, knuckleheads and trashed campsites...and that's during a normal year. At first, I just said it's Quetico or nothing. But after thinking about it, I realized that there is a lot of water to fish, scenery is great and it's better than staying home. And there's nothing like gliding across the water with a paddle in your hand. After we get settled in to a campsite for the week, I'm sure everything will be just fine. I will work hard to be positive. Terry |
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Pinetree |
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Pinetree |
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tumblehome |
Absolutely we will not be in Quetico in 2020, none of us unless you have duel citizenship. Tom |
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yellowcanoe |
And we have been good. no deaths lately. Wanted so much to canoe in Labrador which is half the travel distance to BWCA. |
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Jaywalker |
81% of Canadians think the border should remain closed for the foreseeable future 14% think it should open, but only where infection rates are low. A measly 3% think it should open now. Daily viral videos of maskless rage in US public places can not possibly be helping this. |
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tumblehome |
Therefore if new reservation are paid in full, it sounds like the ranger stations will not be handling financial transactions once this gets straightened out. At least for the remainder of this year. Tom |
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TrailZen |
marc24: "That’s interesting. When I made my reservation for our epic Dad -son trip ( 12 nights in the Q with my 73 yr old Pops), they most definitely charged the whole reservation fee at time of booking. There was no way around it. And it was returned in full just as easily automatically. Wonder why the huge discrepancy? " marc24, this is consistent with my permit reservation this year. When I called our outfitter in February, he informed me of the payment policy change. When he made the reservation in late March, the full 10-day trip fee was charged. Not sure how another outfitter got around the policy change. Reviewed a couple previous permit reservations; our 2017 reservation required a $150 deposit, in 2018 deposit was $100, and in 2019 $111... TZ |
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Pinetree |
MichiganMan: ""Daily viral videos of maskless rage in US public places can not possibly be helping this." Agree |
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MichiganMan |
Sometime we are our own worst enemy. |
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MichiganMan |
US & Canada extend border closure until July 21 #$%&!!!! |
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marc24 |
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GraniteCliffs |
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flaxman |
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flaxman |
24kGold: "If the border opens in time, the ranger stations may remain closed for the short season. Might operate like they do after Labor Day. However, this year marks the beginning of pre-pay camping payment in Quetico. If you pre-pay for fishing licenses and camping fees, the closed ranger stations wouldn't be an issue. Sure hope the border closure isn't extended again into August. I was not aware of any changes to the permit issuing process this year. Are you saying that they are allowing pre payment of camping fees and not requiring a stop at the ranger station? |
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24kGold |
That's my take on the process but I'm not going to call in my payment until the border opens. |
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Karl |
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24kGold |
I would think in the wilderness of Quetico, we could all easily practice social fishtancing. Shouldn't be difficult. I'd say there's always next year, but right now I'm having difficulty being optimistic about much. Terry |
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Jackfish |
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HighnDry |
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24kGold |
"Right now, we are processing RABC requests but holding them for issue until the border opens. When the border opens, if you include your e-mail address, we will scan the approved permit and e-mail it to you. You will not be charged the processing fee unless your permit is issued by your entry date." The border was scheduled to open on June 21st. A recent Canadian article posted claimed the opening will probably be moved back 30 days to July 21st. If you have a Quetico trip scheduled in August, there is a chance that the border will open in time. You may want to submit your permit request to be ready. My trip is in August and I'm not trying to get any hopes up. I'm just passing along information. Terry |
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TrailZen |
TZ |
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TomT |
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billconner |
TomT: "I haven't even had the slightest hope of the border opening this year. I can only hope our country gets its act together and they open in 2021. I'd say 50/50 chance right now for next summer." +1 They'll consider it sometime around New Years is my guess. And they are serious: "Failure to comply with this Order is an offense under the Quarantine Act. Maximum penalties include a fine of up to $750,000 and/or imprisonment for six months. Further, a person who causes a risk of imminent death or serious bodily harm to another person while wilfully or recklessly contravening this Act or the regulations could be liable for a fine of up to $1,000,000 or to imprisonment of up to three years, or to both. Spot checks will be conducted by the Government of Canada to verify compliance." (best Austin Powers imitation) "one million dollars!" (of course only ~$600,000 US) |
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ZaraSp00k |
MichiganMan: ""Daily viral videos of maskless rage in US public places can not possibly be helping this." We have met the enemy and he is us. Pogo in his comic strip in the 60's. |
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ZaraSp00k |
tumblehome: "Justin Trudeau said that he will work very hard to protect Canadians from Covid. That alone means Americans stay out. you could marry one |
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Pinetree |
ZaraSp00k: "tumblehome: "Justin Trudeau said that he will work very hard to protect Canadians from Covid. That alone means Americans stay out. I think you can go into Canada if you quarantine in one spot for 14 days also? |
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AmarilloJim |
ZaraSp00k: "tumblehome: "Justin Trudeau said that he will work very hard to protect Canadians from Covid. That alone means Americans stay out. Now I would watch a show like that. The first argument would be about what lakes to fish on the honeymoon. |
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unshavenman |
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OldGreyGoose |
An American outfitter I know says he's heard from Canadians that it won't open until a vaccine is available. --Goose |
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yellowcanoe |
OldGreyGoose: "Border closure extended to at least 9/21/20. Unfortunate. We really have little CV here anymore.. well never had much at all (our rate is the lowest in the US). And I hear that CV will be with us forever. One vaccine will not work for all. Again, hearsay from a Dr. on the news. He says it will take ten years and several vaccines to find what works best for each population. Not a one size fits all vaccine is likely. |