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ozarkpaddler
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07/24/2017 07:03PM  
Picked up an Indy for a friend and I did get to paddle it for a little while, but it's been 5 years ago. He's bragged about how nice that boat is, and I would just like to hear what any of you here have to say? I remember Coda here had one, and have read his thoughts.

Oh, the reason for my interest is that I've got a pending deal on one that I put a deposit on until the gentleman gets back from vacation. Hopefully, it will be in my possession in a couple weeks?

 
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07/24/2017 07:54PM  
I do. Mine is a fg layup....about 44#. Blue one pictured should be the UL kevlar layup where they used colored resin. (blue outside....blue inside). I love mine. Stable for a V keeled boat (Indy's flatten out more mid-ship), good glide, maybe a tad wide for some solos. Only real concern is getting it trimmed just right in a quartering tail wind......gets a little tough to control.

 
ozarkpaddler
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07/25/2017 09:57AM  
Thanks, Cowdoc!
 
07/25/2017 09:56PM  


I picked up a pristine Indie with rotted gunnels. I had been paddling a V-bottom wood strip Rushton design, so this was very comfortable for me. I enjoyed the Indie on a 10 day solo in 2016. It handled well on a very windy trip. It has quite a bit of rocker and demands attention for directional control, but the V-bottom helps that a little. You might take a few hours on the water to get used to the tippy feeling of the v-bottom. Just have to relax and feel how it firms up in a lean.

Since I was rebuilding the trim and seats I installed rails to support seat and yoke. This is a good solution to Cowdocs attention to trim in certain aspects of wind. It is easy to adjust trim. It also makes arranging weight in the boat simple.



The only thing I would improve in this hull is the depth. I felt vulnerable in bigger waves. However, I never shipped a drop of water so I guess I should get over it.

I think it is a great touring canoe.
 
ozarkpaddler
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07/28/2017 09:05AM  
quote sedges: "
I picked up a pristine Indie with rotted gunnels. I had been paddling a V-bottom wood strip Rushton design, so this was very comfortable for me. I enjoyed the Indie on a 10 day solo in 2016. It handled well on a very windy trip. It has quite a bit of rocker and demands attention for directional control, but the V-bottom helps that a little. You might take a few hours on the water to get used to the tippy feeling of the v-bottom. Just have to relax and feel how it firms up in a lean.
Since I was rebuilding the trim and seats I installed rails to support seat and yoke. This is a good solution to Cowdocs attention to trim in certain aspects of wind. It is easy to adjust trim. It also makes arranging weight in the boat simple.

The only thing I would improve in this hull is the depth. I felt vulnerable in bigger waves. However, I never shipped a drop of water so I guess I should get over it.
I think it is a great touring canoe."



Very impressed with the adjustable seat setup you made, Sedges! Thanks for the information, I'm gleaning everything I can find as I wait another 10-14 days before I get to pick it up and paddle it myself.
 
07/28/2017 01:00PM  
The set up works really well for me. There are more about it with photos in the thread in the Solo tripping forum.

http://bwca.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=forum.thread&confId=1&forumId=120&threadId=992285
 
07/28/2017 01:00PM  
The set up works really well for me. There is more about it with photos in the thread in the Solo tripping forum.

http://bwca.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=forum.thread&confId=1&forumId=120&threadId=992285
 
ozarkpaddler
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07/28/2017 05:51PM  
quote sedges: "The set up works really well for me. There is more about it with photos in the thread in the Solo tripping forum.


http://bwca.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=forum.thread&confId=1&forumId=120&threadId=992285"


Can't get that to work for me?
 
07/28/2017 06:40PM  
select it and right click and choose "open link in new tab"
My post is way down at the end. Click on "bottom" on the first post and it will get you closer. Mine is like the 44th of 47 posts.
 
ozarkpaddler
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07/29/2017 04:41AM  
quote sedges: "select it and right click and choose "open link in new tab"
My post is way down at the end. Click on "bottom" on the first post and it will get you closer. Mine is like the 44th of 47 posts."


Yesterday it said "Site under maintenance" but works this morning; thanks!
 
07/30/2017 06:50PM  

Found one in Ann Arbor Michigan.

See on Facebook, Sawyer and other Michigan canoes,

$600
 
07/30/2017 07:47PM  
Found another one on Craigslist, bowling Green ky

Kevlar
 
07/30/2017 08:43PM  
quote Winemaker: "Found another one on Craigslist, bowling Green ky


Kevlar"


44# is the FG. And they used the pic of MY canoe for the ad!
 
ozarkpaddler
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07/31/2017 09:50AM  
quote cowdoc: "
quote Winemaker: "Found another one on Craigslist, bowling Green ky



Kevlar"



44# is the FG. And they used the pic of MY canoe for the ad!"


Heheheh, I've had that happen a few times. Once was an add for a MRC Malecite and they had this pic of my MRC Courier in the BWCAW. I e-mailed them and the add disappeared. I watched for it for a few weeks and it never returned. I wish the late Paul Harvey could give me "The REST...of the story" (LOL)?

 
bcelect
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07/31/2017 11:29AM  
quote cowdoc: "
quote Winemaker: "Found another one on Craigslist, bowling Green ky



Kevlar"



44# is the FG. And they used the pic of MY canoe for the ad!"

So you are saying that the boat listed in the Facebook page is actually yours Cowdoc? I asked him if it was his boat or a link from an ad, and he just answered that it was his. Hmmmm. At $ 600 that is an incredible price. Too good to be true.
He does seem to know about boats and is answering comments.
 
07/31/2017 12:42PM  
The Bowling Green CL add......I checked it out just for fun. The full pic of the canoe with the Pine trees is my boat. They snagged it off the internet. No.....mine is not for sale.
 
07/31/2017 01:41PM  
I paid $650 for mine.....it was pristine, but it was the FG version at 44#. Not sure what the kevlar or hybrid version would be worth.....$1000? $1500 seems high for the CL boat, and I can't see the FB boat.
 
08/01/2017 02:04PM  
Sweet!
I almost bought one several years ago from an outfitter. It was new but had been damaged somehow at the store. Sadly, the store went out of business before I could broker a deal. Ended up with a better boat in the long run. A Malecite Ultralite.
 
ozarkpaddler
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08/01/2017 08:10PM  
Well, thanks for the info, everyone, the plan is to pick it up tomorrow!
 
08/01/2017 09:07PM  
Happy Paddling Terry. Let us know what you think of it.
 
08/01/2017 09:16PM  
Indy and Malecite

 
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08/02/2017 05:43AM  
Much to my surprise as I was researching a just purchased Indy in Ann Arbor......the boat is awesome! Won't take it off the truck until it sees a lake.
 
ozarkpaddler
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08/03/2017 07:47AM  
Picked it up yesterday and needs a little TLC to the woodwork. It is Fiberglass, not kevlar, but still not nearly as heavy as the Prospector I traded for it. Headed to the river in a few minutes, but will take a few pics tomorrow. Funny looking structure on the bottom that LOOKS like a seat was mounted on the bottom?
 
ozarkpaddler
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08/04/2017 06:29PM  
Here's a few pictures. Woodwork needs some TLC and the seat will have to be raised before I can paddle it. The buyer didn't mention that a previous owner 'glassed in two wooden "Rail-like" fixtures. I assume they had mounted a seat to the bottom, but can't figure out how with this fixture? If anyone has any ideas, PLEASE clue me in! Hopefully I'll get to test paddle it next week?







 
ozarkpaddler
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08/04/2017 06:29PM  
Here's a few pictures. Woodwork needs some TLC and the seat will have to be raised before I can paddle it. The buyer didn't mention that a previous owner 'glassed in two wooden "Rail-like" fixtures. I assume they had mounted a seat to the bottom, but can't figure out how with this fixture? If anyone has any ideas, PLEASE clue me in! Hopefully I'll get to test paddle it next week?







 
08/04/2017 07:06PM  
Hull and stems look great. Wood appears a little thirsty for some Watco Oil but appears solid.
 
08/04/2017 07:30PM  
that's a pretty color! i can't imagine a seat mounted on the floor of the canoe. what if the owner had a fish finder or some other gadget that would slide onto those wood pieces?
in any case, it's a beauty of a canoe, enjoy!
 
ozarkpaddler
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08/04/2017 07:34PM  
I thought I had some Watco or something similar but couldn't find it, so will have to pick up some when I get off the next 4 days of work. Thanks again, Cowdoc!

Mocha, I'll have to bring it to MN next time up north. I love that color too, prettiest one Mad River made IMHO? My wife mentioned that our canoes "Match" (LOL)!

 
08/04/2017 08:29PM  
they do look similar! now, you must go shopping for paddle-wear that complements the canoe, not to overbearing...
 
ozarkpaddler
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08/05/2017 04:48AM  
quote Mocha: "they do look similar! now, you must go shopping for paddle-wear that complements the canoe, not to overbearing..."


Heheheh, I think I MIGHT have a shirt that color? I'll have to wear it first time out and see if my wife and I can be completely "Coordinated" (LOL)? Have a great weekend!
 
kona
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08/05/2017 01:44PM  
Cool boat. Looking forward to your thoughts after paddling.
 
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08/18/2017 08:38AM  
I picked up an Indy last summer, kevlar expedition, for $750 (made in 2000). Its slightly lighter and has aluminum rails and plastic decks which works better for me as I store it in a pole-barn type structure, under a tarp. It was a show model in an outfitters shop, purchased by an employee and stored in a garage....gelcoat is scratched a bit but otherwise fine. I'd hate to put the first scratch on something so fine.

Presently, someone in Lynchburg va is selling on c-list a pristine Indy, several malachites and a liberty, all in kevlar. If $ no issue, they may complete somebody's wishlist.


These two pix are my "eggplant" Indy

 
08/19/2017 01:40PM  
I would like that expedition kevlar lay-up. Mine is the ultralight kevlar and I worried about knocking it around on portage landings on my 2016 trip. Actually, it did just fine with no damage other than scratches. I carried a good repair kit that had epoxy resin and fiberglass cloth, but never had to get it out. I did like the 30 pound weight... a lot!

 
08/19/2017 05:23PM  
I've only seen the Eggplant color in magazines....never on a real boat. Always thought it was a sharp color. Indy's are just pleasant, easy boats to paddle.
 
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