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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Gear Forum Gunwale noise and pipe insulation! |
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02/06/2019 05:51PM
Every trip to the BWCA, I notice the same thing. We lay something on the gunwale and it makes noise, be it a paddle, rod or whatever. Has anybody tried using pieces of pipe insulation to deaden the noise? It would weigh next to nothing, snap on, and after the trip, you could just throw it away. There could be the possibility of one falling off on a portage, but we always have a "trailer person" in case someone drops something.
Let me know what you think. I'll try and test it on my canoe this spring.
Thanks, FISHONFISHOFF
Let me know what you think. I'll try and test it on my canoe this spring.
Thanks, FISHONFISHOFF
"What's the worse that could happen?"
02/07/2019 03:24AM
Have tried it and abandoned the idea when I noticed one was missing from the gunwales. Somewhere in the BWCA, a short, blue segment of a pool noodle lies-- or floats--waiting to deteriorate for a long, long time. Not happy about that at all. Nevermind if I make a little noise now and then! The loons do. The thunder does. The rushing water does too. Most certainly, neighboring camper are jawing and laughing, too. Some even howl like wolves.
Anyway, I'm not going to risk leaving another piece of foam there.
Anyway, I'm not going to risk leaving another piece of foam there.
“If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Sir Isaac Newton
02/07/2019 08:56AM
AmarilloJim: "I would tape them if I used them."
This might be one of those very rare occasions when duct tape places second as a remedy to a problem. Velcro will be more reliable and is available in all kinds of precut sizes and shapes. I would guess that placing one side of the Velcro under the gunwale might be enough to hold the insulation in place, while preserving the boat's appearance when the insulation is removed for winter storage or the like.
There's a Velcro adhesive available that works on aluminum and ABS. No idea what it might do to a gel coat, so caveat emptor!
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02/07/2019 11:31AM
Pool noodles seem to be a popular & cheap option for doing this too, and they are often thicker than pipe insulation. Plus, you get to pick from an assortment of loud colors!
Personally, I've never done this. All my boats have wood trim and I've never found the gunwales tough on my legs/knees.
Personally, I've never done this. All my boats have wood trim and I've never found the gunwales tough on my legs/knees.
When a man is part of his canoe, he is part of all that canoes have ever known. - Sigurd F. Olson, "The Singing Wilderness"
02/07/2019 11:32AM
old_salt: "Use a little duct tape to hold to hold them in place. I also use them for lure hangs. Away from knees, of course. Wrap thwarts for more quiet and lure hangs."
Brilliant! I'm going to try that this summer, thanks for the tip!
02/07/2019 12:26PM
I have a Royalex Bell Northwind which has a fairly sharp edge under the gunwale for the bow paddler. We tape pipe insulation on for trips to protect the knees. Haven't had the same issue with other canoes.
The loudest Gunwale noise to me comes from metal on metal. If either the gunwale or paddle is wood, the sound is dampened quite a bit.
The loudest Gunwale noise to me comes from metal on metal. If either the gunwale or paddle is wood, the sound is dampened quite a bit.
paddlinjoe
02/07/2019 06:21PM
fishonfishoff: "Sounds like it may be a noise silencer, knee pain reliever, and lure holder all in one. Probably can't find many more deals like this for the money spent.
FISHONFISHOFF"
Great for all three. I drilled some small holes under the bow gunnels and use zip ties. Have had the same pipe insulation on for years. Zip tie some around all thwarts. Love it.
02/09/2019 07:32AM
Most with the same mindset as you will carry a trash bag for just this. For the 20 +/- times I have made the trip to the BWCA I have always carried out more than I have carried in. I have always thought that someone packed out my pair of wet shoes that I left hanging on a tree branch on my first trip to the BWCA and my first campsite ever in 1981 on Knife Lake.
“It’s not what you look at that matters, it’s what you see.” Henry David Thoreau
02/12/2019 01:44PM
I got my Magic with some of these zip-tied on the gunnels. I was initially against it but have come to like the padding for my long legs. The only issues is that pipe insulation tends not to hold up to the beating that a BWCA tripper puts on it, so replacing it every month or two happens as the foam flattens in worn areas. A pool noodle would likely hold up alright but likely would be too thick and bright for me.
02/14/2019 04:38PM
old_salt: "Use a little duct tape to hold to hold them in place. I also use them for lure hangs. Away from knees, of course. Wrap thwarts for more quiet and lure hangs."
I put an extra one in the boat last year just to hang lure on. Works great.
02/15/2019 10:49AM
Hey FOFO. You can also use clear vinyl tubing from the hardware store. Just cut a few pieces to the desired length and then cut a slit in them so you can clamp them onto your gunnels. One inch clear tubing fits Swift and Bell aluminum gunnels perfectly. They stay on much better than pipe insulation but I did lose one in the water once so I may add lanyards in the future so they can't escape. They are much more durable than pipe insulation.
I don't fish any more but they would work fine to keep things quiet. I also use them to add some grip between the straps and gunnels when using a canoe cart, and for protecting the wood gunnels where they rest on the storage rack, and for adding some grip between the boat and the roof rack, and for attaching a blanket to help keep the dog warm.
I don't fish any more but they would work fine to keep things quiet. I also use them to add some grip between the straps and gunnels when using a canoe cart, and for protecting the wood gunnels where they rest on the storage rack, and for adding some grip between the boat and the roof rack, and for attaching a blanket to help keep the dog warm.
02/18/2019 08:57AM
justpaddlin: "Hey FOFO. You can also use clear vinyl tubing from the hardware store. Just cut a few pieces to the desired length and then cut a slit in them so you can clamp them onto your gunnels. One inch clear tubing fits Swift and Bell aluminum gunnels perfectly. They stay on much better than pipe insulation but I did lose one in the water once so I may add lanyards in the future so they can't escape. They are much more durable than pipe insulation.
I don't fish any more but they would work fine to keep things quiet. I also use them to add some grip between the straps and gunnels when using a canoe cart, and for protecting the wood gunnels where they rest on the storage rack, and for adding some grip between the boat and the roof rack, and for attaching a blanket to help keep the dog warm.
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Great Idea
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