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Shadrapper
  
03/26/2019 10:41AM   (Thread Older Than 3 Years)
Please share the details of your hammocks setup. What hammocks, tarp, under / over blanket, netting, hanging system? Other essentials?

Any concerns about rain? Or does it keep you as dry as a tent.

Thanks!!
 
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03/26/2019 11:54AM  
Welcome, curious as to the reason you want to know. We are a pretty friendly group and share probably more openly than we should and I apologize for seeming resistant, truly curious is more my intent.
There is a special interest group for hanging you can join and will find most of us have shared our systems and experiences there. If there are trees or other ways to hang I would always hang over tenting. But I mostly solo and have no one I really want to cuddle with at night.
I have been hanging since 2011 and have and continue to evolve the system I hang with recently adding a neoair from Thermarest. I will put it between the layers on my ridgerunner. More for comfort than insulation, but will likely replace the UQ for summer months and definitely be a benefit for the colder trips.
What is your current system? Or are you looking for ideas?
 
03/26/2019 12:23PM  
If you are a novice I would purchase the Ultimate hang.
 
TipsyPaddler
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03/26/2019 03:56PM  
Second the recommendation for The Ultimate Hang and will add the YouTube Videos by Shug as well as joining the Hammockforums.net.

I am a Warbonnet hammocks fan. I have complete Ridgerunner and Blackbird XLC rigs. I also use accessories from Dutchware and Simply Light Designs. They also make very nice hammocks.

Be careful, it’s addicting!

 
firemedic5586
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03/26/2019 05:34PM  
My last custom build..
running a UGQ 0 deg UQ... Home made TQ's.. Push comes to shove I can also use my military modular bag..

I have it slung under a Winter dream 13

My Daughter hangs in a Clark NX270. Under a Warbonnet Superfly.

Son in a

Sparrow
Net-Overcover: Net & Overcover
Length: 11ft
Width: Wide As Possible
Layers: Double
Outside Layer Fabric: 1.6oz HyperD Diamond Ripstop
Outside Layer Color: Olive drab
Inside Layer Fabric-Use Only For Double Layer Hammocks: 1.6oz HyperD Diamond Ripstop
Inside Layer Color: Olive yellow
Overcover Fabric: 1.6oz HyperD Diamond Ripstop
Overcover Color: Olive drab
Asym Lay: Right - Head Left / Feet Right
Suspension: Continuous Loop
UQ Hooks-Tie Out Hooks: Both
Ridgeline Organizer: Yes

Under a Warbonnet Superfly.
 
03/26/2019 07:43PM  
Two layer Dream hammock under a Superfly for me. I made my own quilts, and add a thermarest when it is below 40.

My son sleeps in a homemade hammock in an Eno bug net under a superfly.
 
grayghoste78
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03/26/2019 08:04PM  
I run a Skeeter beater I put a solid Ridgeline in. Homemade quilts. Bushcraft USA tarp. I stay just dry and comfortable off the ground.
 
Savage Voyageur
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03/26/2019 08:57PM  
My setup is a ENO double nest hammock and bug net, a underquilt made by Arrowhead outfitters, and a CCS 12x10 tarp. I also have a structural adjustable ridgeline made with Whoopi slings, and suspension is Whoopi slings attached to Polyester straps with Marlin spikes and Dutch clips.

And yes a hammock will keep you a lot dryer than a tent. You are off the ground and have a tarp over you. You will be dry in a monsoon rain. Some of my friends spent a year in Vietnam and slept in a hammock every day. They said it rained about every day. They stayed dry.
 
03/27/2019 04:37AM  
Warbonnet RidgeRunner double layer under a 13’ Superfly tarp. I use a pad in between for comfort and an underquilt for warmth.
 
03/27/2019 06:52AM  
#1 is a Warbonnet Black Bird, the lighter double layer. Whoopie slings and Kammock straps. Superfly tarp.

#2 is a Dutch Chameleon - can't recall which cloth as I'm sitting here. Dutch's Beetle buckle straps/suspension. Dutch tarp. Btw, I like the WB tarp much better due to the "doors".

I have four sets of Enlightened Equipment top/under quilts. Three different temp ratings (10, 20, and 32), and one set (I think a 20 degree) I just sprung for the highest fill power to lighten/condense things in the pack.
 
tonyyarusso
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03/27/2019 08:55AM  
So far I only have one hammock, an ENO SingleNest, but I'm planning to upgrade that, probably to something from either Dream Hammocks or Warbonnet. I have two bug nets for it, the ENO Guardian, and a newly-acquired Sea To Summit (with the spreader pole). External bug nets work, but aren't ideal, which is one reason I want to upgrade, along with the short length of the ENO. The next one will have both a bug net and a winter overcover option.

I have a bunch of tarps that I've used with it, however (some acquired pre-hammock):
1) CCS 8x10
2) Kelty Noah's Tarp 12
3) Warbonnet ThunderFly
4) HammockGear Winter Palace

On one occasion I was under the tiny CCS on an exposed point on a lake in a thunderstorm with 60mph winds, and stayed perfectly dry, although I pitched it low, the angle of the wind was cooperative, and it was pretty darn exciting. One thing I really like about using a hammock when rain is in the forecast is it means my primary shelter already has a tarp involved, so I don't need to bring a separate tarp (more weight) for cooking and lounging under. I'm a backpacker much more often than a canoe camper, so that's a big deal for certain conditions (sustained day-long drizzle). (Whether I use a hammock or a tent varies by trip according to location, weather forecast, and the whim of the week.)

I have two sets of quilts, both full-length from Hammock Gear, one for about 25 degrees and the other about -5. I also use sleeping bags and pads in it, sometimes alone and sometimes in combination with quilts, depending on the trip itinerary and temperatures. For that reason my next hammock will also be double-layer. At some point I'll also add a light 3/4-length quilt for the really warm temperatures alone and stacking in the really cold temperatures.
 
flynn
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03/27/2019 10:05AM  
Warbonnet Blackbird XLC (integrated net) with whoopie slings (with Dutch whoopie hook) or a Marlin Spike hitch using Kevlar straps from Dutch, Warbonnet Thunderfly tarp using Dyneema, Tarp Flyz, and Fleaz, from Dutch, with a Hammock Gear Econ Burrow 30F topquilt and Warbonnet Yeti 20F underquilt. I'm still getting used to it. You don't have your own "space" like you do inside a tent, so storing items that you'd normally leave on the floor of the tent is a little trickier. I use my camp chair (REI Flexlite) as a little table next to my hammock. Some people hang their backpacks, I put it on the chair. Shoes go on the ground, but some people like to hang those too. We don't have black widows or any other seriously dangerous insects/animals that might make a home in my shoes overnight so I don't really worry about that, but folks down south do.
 
SteveElms73
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03/27/2019 12:54PM  
I slept in an ENO Doublenest for years and always slept pretty well. It wasn't until I switched to a Dream Hammock that I realized what I was missing out on. The added length (9 ft vs 11ft) makes a HUGE difference in comfort for me. Also ditching the sleeping pad as bottom insulation was game-changing as well. Here's my current set up:

Dream Hammock Raven (extra wide, double layer)
UGQ Zeppelin 0 degree underquilt
HG Econ Incubator 30 degree underquilt
HG Econ 30 degree burrow top quilt
Simply Light Design XL WinterHaven tarp
2QZQ underquilt protector

Having a tarp with doors is also a huge plus and really keeps the blowing rain and snow out.

My next purchase will be a 0 degree top quilt. That way I'll have proper top and bottom insulation for the warm summer to winter here in Ontario. I can also nest the 0 and 30 degree quilts to get to deep cold temps.

It's a dangerous game though (getting into hammocking) as the cost can add up really fast! What started out as just getting a new hammock for a few hundred bucks has ended up costing me almost $2000 with all the other stuff as I now want to move away from ground sleeping all together and go strictly hammock all year-round
 
KarlBAndersen1
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03/27/2019 05:32PM  
I like the Clarks and have two. Now I'm using the NX-270 with a Thunderfly tarp, and Hammock Gear under quilts and top quilts. 20 and 40 degree set-ups.
 
03/29/2019 12:58PM  
I've got an original DL blackbird/superfly.

Just ordered a SL sparrow w/net and overcover.

Have a cat-cut tarp that I sewed together. Thinking of getting a thunderfly.

I have a primaloft underquilt I made. A JRB cold-weather underquilt. Usually use my sleeping bag as a top quilt, although I also have a down cold-weather top quilt.

I've been in some pretty heavy rains. On occasion I get a little splash coming under the tarp. Generally, though, I stay dry and cozy.
 
03/30/2019 06:40AM  
I have a Blackbird and Superfly from 2009 and love the combo. My superfly has snap on doors which got discontinued sometime after. I used to use a 1/8 inch closed cell foam pad underneath between the layers but switched to a 29 degree Incubator underquilt from Hammock Gear. A really great upgrade.

I used a 10 degree down bag as my topquilt but in 2017 got a 15 degree topquilt (I don't remember the manufacturer). A sleeping bag works but the topquilt is lighter, less bulky and more comfortable to use.

I love to hammock camp because I always stay dry, I'm not crawling around on the ground, and I don't need a flat surface. And it's more fun!

In the 2nd pic there was a storm coming with wind so I used a small nylon poncho I carry to cover wood or packs, to block the end where the wind was coming from.





 
03/30/2019 07:32AM  
TomT: "I have a Blackbird and Superfly from 2009 and love the combo. My superfly has snap on doors which got discontinued sometime after. I used to use a 1/8 inch closed cell foam pad underneath between the layers but switched to a 29 degree Incubator underquilt from Hammock Gear. A really great upgrade.

I used a 10 degree down bag as my topquilt but in 2017 got a 15 degree topquilt (I don't remember the manufacturer). A sleeping bag works but the topquilt is lighter, less bulky and more comfortable to use.

I love to hammock camp because I always stay dry, I'm not crawling around on the ground, and I don't need a flat surface. And it's more fun!

In the 2nd pic there was a storm coming with wind so I used a small nylon poncho I carry to cover wood or packs, to block the end where the wind was coming from.





I wish they still made the snap on doors. I like the blue color of your Superfly. I couldn’t decide what color I wanted mine to be,so I went with Camo. I think it looks good but might be hard for others to see if looking for empty site.
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03/30/2019 08:42PM  
I have the Dutchware Chameleon and my wife uses a Hummingbird Hammock, we use HG underquilts and Enlightened E top quilts. Tarps are Wilderness Logic Tadpole and Hummingbird Pelican.
 
mike2019
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04/02/2019 05:44AM  
I have a Warbonnet Blackbird (double layer, lighter material). I fit a Lg neoair in the pouch. One handy item to have is this ridgeline organizer. You can keep small items in it. The Blackbird also has a (very) small shelf where you can store things. I have the superfly and it is great. Just got these panel pulls - have not taken them out yet. (I have heard of people using trekking poles to do this.) Ridgeline organizer Warbonnet Blackbird panel pulls
 
LakeLobster
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04/02/2019 02:19PM  
What brand / model is that tarp with the camo pattern?
 
04/02/2019 02:33PM  
LakeLobster: "What brand / model is that tarp with the camo pattern?"

His pic is of the Warbonnet Superfly in Bushwack Camo. That's an excellent hammock fly and what I use as well, although I have an older camo pattern.

 
04/02/2019 02:36PM  
LakeLobster: "What brand / model is that tarp with the camo pattern?"

Tarp
 
04/02/2019 04:21PM  
LakeLobster: "What brand / model is that tarp with the camo pattern?"

Yes as Unshaven said it is a Superfly. It is a custom 13’ with added middle tie outs and an exterior pole mod. The pole mods really give you a lot of extra room inside.
 
rayljr1
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04/02/2019 06:58PM  
Dream Hammock with over-cover or bug net that completely removes.
Cinch buckle suspension system
Kelty Noah's 12' tarp
KAQ Quilt designed originally for a Hennessy Hammock but fits my dream hammock perfect. It is synthetic and works well down to 40 degrees.
I have pole mods, auto adjusting tie outs, and aluminum stakes.

I am leaning heavily on purchasing a HG Cuben Fiber (Dyneema) tarp soon. But the Kelty has not let me down, and has been through some 50mph winds and storms.

 
Elgin
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04/03/2019 03:51PM  
Mine seemed to changed every year, and is a mishmash of different brands, but I think I'll stick with my current setup for a bit.

Grand Trunk OneMade hammock
Yukon Outfitters Bug net
Eno Atlas straps
Chinook all-purpose tarp
Nemo Siren top quilt
Modified Costco under quilt

 
BobDobbs
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04/05/2019 09:41AM  
TipsyPaddler: "

I am a Warbonnet hammocks fan. I have complete Ridgerunner and Blackbird XLC rigs.


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do you mind disclosing your dimensions?

I'm considering the RR, but I'm almost 6'2" and almost 230#, which puts me right at the limit for height and pretty close to weight.

Also - do you mind discussing pros/cons of the BB vs the RR?
 
OCDave
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04/05/2019 11:38AM  
Shadrapper: "Please share the details of your hammocks setup. What hammocks, tarp, under / over blanket, netting, hanging system? Other essentials?

Any concerns about rain? Or does it keep you as dry as a tent.

Thanks!!"


Hammocks are like socks or gloves or underwear. Everyone likes their own choice but, it would be unlikely that your choice or reason for choosing it would be the same. I have owned over a dozen hammocks (I have successfully culled that down to 7) and I like each for different reasons, seasons and uses.

Two fundamental items that will make hammock camping an experience you will enjoy and continue to pursue are an appropriately temp rated underquilt and an appropriately sized tarp (preferably with doors).

My preference for underquilt is a full-length 20* Incubator from HammockGear. The 20* temp rating allows me to stay cozy March through October. It is by far my most cherished piece. While it can be a bit much for mid-summer nights, it is the quilt I use most. Eventually, I added a 40* Incubator which is lighter, takes less room in my backpacking pack and is a bit more comfortable for mid-June through mid-August nights. I even tried a 0* Incubator for awhile but, found it was more an aspirational item than a realistic item. On the rare occations I want to hammock camp at temps less than 10*F I stack my 20* and 40* quilts.

You can start Hammock camping with a pad but, nearly everyone will attest that their first use of a down underquilt was a "game-changer". Using an unquilt is a different hammock camping experience.

I have tried 7 different tarps. Coverage trumps light weight but, be careful not to get too large. My preference is My Warbonnet Outdoors SuperFly. It provides enough coverage to be used as a winter tarp in blizzard conditions yet light enough to be included as my go-to backpacking shelter. I tried a Cuben Fiber tarp with doors but it did not reach close enough to the ground to protect from side winds. Resist the urge to buy a 12' or 13' long tarp as it complicates which trees will work for hanging your hammock. While you might choose something other than the SuperFly , 11' long x 10' wide with doors is my recommendation.

The hammock, the bug protection, the tent stakes, the cordage and suspension I use varies by whim from trip to trip. The SuperFly and Incubator are the items I will not leave home without.

Good Luck
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