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analyzer
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05/20/2019 10:33PM  
There's a guy on Facebook Market place selling blue barrels for $10. He has pallets full of them. They have a bit of an odor to them, as they had some sort of pharmaceutical stored in them, but they are really nice, with a good seal, and seem brand new. They are 10 gallons, so about 38L or so, I would guess. I bought 4 of them.

The bad new is, he is located in litchfield, about an hour west of the twin cities.

I'm looking around for an inexpensive harness. I see steep and cheap has the Harmony Harness, but I might get the GG, or the CCS instead.
 
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WiresNPipes
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05/22/2019 11:55PM  
Thanks analyzer! I just got two. Inside they're 21" tall by 14" diameter. That's 53 L. I shopped a little and chose Chinook for a harness.
 
Bowmaster1982
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05/23/2019 08:38AM  
How do they compare to the ones you would rent from an outfitter, think those are 60l, so size is similar at least?
 
WiresNPipes
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05/23/2019 09:11AM  
I never considered using these until this year, when I've got two large groups a week in the Quetico. It looks similar to all... see pic.
 
05/23/2019 10:50AM  
Hey Analyzer,

How did you get the odor out of yours? The guy I used to buy barrels from around Chicago sold me one which had a pharmaceutical. Whenever I'd close it up for a while (hours, day tops) it would smell so horrible inside. It's been on the side of my house outside for the last 2 years hoping that time and exposure will get it out.

I tried washing it thoroughly as well as baking soda....
 
Dammfast
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05/23/2019 12:44PM  
The blue barrels that we use started life with laundry detergent in them. The smell was very strong after being shut for any amount of time. I washed them several times with no luck.

The thing that finally worked was to set them outside full of water for a few weeks. I put them under the downspouts and used the water to water the garden. When I thought they were out there long enough I dumped a few ounces of bleach in each one and let that cook for a few hours before scrubbing them out. They have been odor free ever since.

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05/23/2019 01:32PM  
WiresNPipes: "I never considered using these until this year, when I've got two large groups a week in the Quetico. It looks similar to all... see pic. "


Careful, that one on the right is not latched properly. The lip of the lid is not inside of the closing ring completely. It will leak that way and may damage the lid or the ring clamp.
 
05/23/2019 02:58PM  
Dammfast: "The blue barrels that we use started life with laundry detergent in them. The smell was very strong after being shut for any amount of time. I washed them several times with no luck.

The thing that finally worked was to set them outside full of water for a few weeks. I put them under the downspouts and used the water to water the garden. When I thought they were out there long enough I dumped a few ounces of bleach in each one and let that cook for a few hours before scrubbing them out. They have been odor free ever since.


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Thanks, I'll give that a try. Haven't checked the barrel yet this year. It's been sitting upside down open to the dirt since fall ~18 months ago.
 
05/23/2019 04:55PM  
Mirazyme has always worked well for me as an odor eliminator.
 
WiresNPipes
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05/23/2019 08:30PM  
Thanks arneser! I'll fix that right away. Hope it's not damaged too badly.
 
analyzer
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05/23/2019 10:26PM  
I haven't been able to eliminate the odor yet. But I've only washed them so far. I ordered a GG Vapor flatbed barrel harness, which at $99 was on the spendy side, but I rationalized, the the barrels are normally $49-$79 so, by getting them for $10, I could splurge a bit on a good harness.

The GG's get very good reviews.

My wash cloth turned yellow, as did my jeans when I was washing them. My Brother n law bought two of them, and he said the yellow stain is from a chemical called Tumarac, which is a yellow spice found in Indian food. It's apparently food safe at least.

The barrels seem like very good quality. The odor, while still present, seems a little weaker. So maybe time will tame it down a bit. I was kinda of hoping the pungent smell, might keep bears away, however, if it's a food spice, perhaps that's wishful thinking. I may have to try the water and bleach trick. Maybe I'll just run my outboard in the barrel. LOL.
 
05/24/2019 06:03AM  
Turmeric stains things, analyzer - it's what makes mustard yellow. If bleach doesn't do it, try the Mirazyme.
 
mjmkjun
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05/24/2019 06:36PM  
try household vinegar...or bleach. buy 4 gallons. dump in and seal. let it set for a day or two then dump and scrub with baking soda. put in full sun with lid off to air for a few days. sunshine is a great disinfector.
 
WiresNPipes
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05/29/2019 06:37PM  
Odor's gone. A few squirts of a weak solution of dawn dish soap (I use it to find air leaks in tires and plumbing), wipe it out with a paper towel. Rinse with sink sprayer and hot water. Leave a slobber (cup) of water in it and add a tablespoon or two of baking soda. Replace lid and shake well, turning every which way. Rinse that out. Finally, set the barrel upside down on a post outside for a couple days. Mine happen to enjoy a light intermittent breeze and overcast skies. My wife (sensitive sniffer) can't smell any residual odor.

though I've never tried or even seen any barrel harness until I received my Chinook ones, I'm impressed.
 
analyzer
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05/29/2019 10:07PM  
WiresNPipes: "Odor's gone. A few squirts of a weak solution of dawn dish soap (I use it to find air leaks in tires and plumbing), wipe it out with a paper towel. Rinse with sink sprayer and hot water. Leave a slobber (cup) of water in it and add a tablespoon or two of baking soda. Replace lid and shake well, turning every which way. Rinse that out. Finally, set the barrel upside down on a post outside for a couple days. Mine happen to enjoy a light intermittent breeze and overcast skies. My wife (sensitive sniffer) can't smell any residual odor.


though I've never tried or even seen any barrel harness until I received my Chinook ones, I'm impressed."


left mine out in the rain, stink is all but gone. Thanks for the suggestion.

Just received my GG vapor harness thingy. I like it alot. Seems very well constructed.
 
dontgoenuf
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05/31/2019 11:08PM  
Do these have any bear resistance? Or is it more to keep food dry and small critters out? Any idea on the barrel weight?
 
WiresNPipes
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06/01/2019 12:55AM  
I've read that bears can and do smash these blue food barrels. My scale says I'm 8# heavier with both barrels ;-)
 
06/03/2019 09:13AM  
WiresNPipes: "I've read that bears can and do smash these blue food barrels. My scale says I'm 8# heavier with both barrels ;-)"


I've also read that bears can and do get at food packs that are hung in trees. How often do you get your food pack as high off the ground as you are supposed to? What are the odds of hurting yourself getting it up there? I'd personally take the chance with the blue barrels hidden away from the campsite instead of the risks involved with hanging.

I have just run into too many close calls being tired and making poor decisions or mistakes.
 
WiresNPipes
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06/03/2019 11:01PM  
Um, odors not gone. Might leave it or try mirazyme or another suggestion here. I don't mind it and I doubt my wife does. Just showed to brother. Opened to same odor.

WiresNPipes: "Odor's gone. A few squirts of a weak solution of dawn dish soap (I use it to find air leaks in tires and plumbing), wipe it out with a paper towel. Rinse with sink sprayer and hot water. Leave a slobber (cup) of water in it and add a tablespoon or two of baking soda. Replace lid and shake well, turning every which way. Rinse that out. Finally, set the barrel upside down on a post outside for a couple days. Mine happen to enjoy a light intermittent breeze and overcast skies. My wife (sensitive sniffer) can't smell any residual odor.


though I've never tried or even seen any barrel harness until I received my Chinook ones, I'm impressed."
 
WiresNPipes
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06/03/2019 11:08PM  
Getting the food 12 feet high and 6 feet out is not easy for me. But I plan to for the barrel.
 
mjmkjun
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06/04/2019 06:26AM  
WiresNPipes: "Getting the food 12 feet high and 6 feet out is not easy for me. But I plan to for the barrel. "

I wrap a rope around my 30 L blue barrel to secure to a tree in plain sight of camp. Mostly to keep an animal from knocking it around and possibly rolling it in lake. I reason that if I do get a bear in camp the bear spray will be utilized. So far, no issues in 9 years of BWCA campsites. I make sure there are no traces of food smells on lid or body of the barrel (fingerprint of bacon grease, a smear of peanut butter, etc) and the ring/hasp is secured after each meal.
 
06/04/2019 07:56AM  
A1t2o: "
WiresNPipes: "I've read that bears can and do smash these blue food barrels. My scale says I'm 8# heavier with both barrels ;-)"



I've also read that bears can and do get at food packs that are hung in trees. How often do you get your food pack as high off the ground as you are supposed to? What are the odds of hurting yourself getting it up there? I'd personally take the chance with the blue barrels hidden away from the campsite instead of the risks involved with hanging.


I have just run into too many close calls being tired and making poor decisions or mistakes. "


I agree. If you are lightly packed it isn't hard but any kind of weight and it is a chore pulling that thing 12 feet up. I use a homemade barrel and leave it on the other side of camp. If a bear gets in so be it. I've never even seen one up there and I don't keep camp the cleanest.
 
Jerlane
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06/10/2019 12:41PM  
Does anyone know if these are still available? Any contact info for the seller?
Thanks!
 
WiresNPipes
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06/10/2019 02:08PM  
I might just lash it to a tree and stack cleaned mess kit near with a string to upset it. My boy said that's how he's gonna play it.

I'll email you his Facebook link.
 
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