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thompsona
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08/07/2019 08:18AM   (Thread Older Than 3 Years)
Hey all,

Purchased a 12x12 Nemo Bugout and the thing is a beast! Very big and bulky, but I'm sure it will be worth it's weight in gold for our trip next week! What do you all use for a ridgeline and tarp to ridgeline connectors? Also, any generals tips for setting it up?

Thanks!
 
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Tomcat
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08/07/2019 09:01AM  
 
08/07/2019 10:01AM  
I have the 9x9 and have always hung it the way Nemo tells you to, using the tarp itself as the ridgeline, and it didn't even take 20 days of wilderness travel before that proved to be inadequate - it's ripped on both ends at the tie-out. I'm thinking I'll try threading a cord underneath as a ridgeline and securing each end to keep it from sliding about. I'm going on a short trip tomorrow through Sunday and will experiment a bit with it and report back what works.
 
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08/07/2019 10:07AM  
 
thompsona
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08/07/2019 12:35PM  
Tomcat: "I have the 9'x9' bugout and use poles. I shortened the storage bag. I can roll the poles and stakes with the tarp and place in the storage bag or just stuff the tarp in the storage bag and carry poles and stakes separately.


I feel that poles reduce stress on guy points, the tarp feels more secure in windy conditions because there is less up/down movement and flutter, and therefore less potential for damage.











I ordered a couple of poles for the short corners, hoping that I shouldn't have a problem finding any trees for the main ridgeline tie out!

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thompsona
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08/07/2019 12:37PM  
TominMpls: "I have the 9x9 and have always hung it the way Nemo tells you to, using the tarp itself as the ridgeline, and it didn't even take 20 days of wilderness travel before that proved to be inadequate - it's ripped on both ends at the tie-out. I'm thinking I'll try threading a cord underneath as a ridgeline and securing each end to keep it from sliding about. I'm going on a short trip tomorrow through Sunday and will experiment a bit with it and report back what works."


I wonder if sewing a tie out or two into the middle seam of the tarp would help with this? I've seen caternary cut tarps before but this one is huge and heavy with all that mesh!
 
Tomcat
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08/07/2019 01:03PM  
 
08/07/2019 01:11PM  
thompsona: "I wonder if sewing a tie out or two into the middle seam of the tarp would help with this? I've seen caternary cut tarps before but this one is huge and heavy with all that mesh! "


Could sew some on but I have and use Grip Clips to supply loops to hang from a ridgeline. No holes and moveable, they are secure and adaptable to many uses, extra hang loops, joining tarps together, creating custom tarp setups---------------

butthead
 
UncleBuck
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08/07/2019 01:42PM  
I just bought the 9x9 and added a ridgeline with continuous loop prusik knots through the ends. The prusiks hold very well and MAY reduce the strain on the ends. I know that my ridgeline can be tight as can be with a truckers hitch where I would hesitate to use that hitch if it was tied directly to the tarp.

Edit: And I didn't need to add any loops along the top of the tarp to thread the ridgeline through. Just suspending the tarp from the line from the ends with tight prusiks is enough and it doesn't sag.
 
TipsyPaddler
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08/07/2019 03:41PM  
UncleBuck: "I just bought the 9x9 and added a ridgeline with continuous loop prusik knots through the ends. The prusiks hold very well and MAY reduce the strain on the ends."


This is my 9x9 rigging method as well. I find the prusiks give a little in high winds and hopefully give before the tarp tears. I have to tighten the prusiks a couple inches every 12-24 hours but no big deal as it takes but a minute. I use canoe paddles to prop up the low ends as needed but I can often find good size down & dead tree branches too.
 
08/12/2019 02:04PM  
butthead: "
Could sew some on but I have and use Grip Clips to supply loops to hang from a ridgeline. No holes and moveable, they are secure and adaptable to many uses, extra hang loops, joining tarps together, creating custom tarp setups---------------


butthead"

Oh, those look intriguing. How exactly do they work? It looks like they snap together with the fabric in between but how do you attach the cord?
 
08/12/2019 10:01PM  
Button goes under the fabric slides thru the ring on the topside of the fabric the holes in the ring support a loop. Can be used as a loop, or to hold 2 pieces of fabric together.

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UncleBuck
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08/20/2019 03:37PM  
I just returned from a trip where I set up the Bugout with the ridgeline. As you can see, it doesn't really need any loops between the ends (which are held by prussik knots) but I think that I would prefer some loops or grips or something else.



With or without the extra loops, this screen shelter worked great. It's built very well and I think that the 9x9 could easily hold 5 grown men. Now, we all know that an all-day rain or too many kids can make any shelter a lot smaller than it really is but for eating, drinking, relaxing, etc., this thing is perfect.

I also carried it in it's own Sea to Summit compression sack (which are also very nice and much better than the Kelty compression sacks) and it smashed down nicely (large sack which I believe is about 12" diameter and it compressed to the maximum for that size which is about 10" tall maybe).
 
08/21/2019 04:30PM  
UncleBuck: "I just returned from a trip where I set up the Bugout with the ridgeline. "


What kind of cord did you use for the ridgeline? Was the prusik cord the same diameter as the ridgeline?

Thanks
 
UncleBuck
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08/21/2019 05:07PM  
rdgbwca: "
UncleBuck: "I just returned from a trip where I set up the Bugout with the ridgeline. "


What kind of cord did you use for the ridgeline? Was the prusik cord the same diameter as the ridgeline?
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I just used an 1/8" paracord for the ridgeline. The least stretchy that I could find. Something from Home Depot I believe. The prusik cord was made from the same cord that came with my Cooks Custom Sewing (CCS) tarp which is about 1/8" I believe. The paracord was a fat 1/8". I would prefer the CCS cord for the ridgeline too but I don't have enough and I didn't want to take it from my CCS tarp.

Anyway, the paracord worked well and the prusiks were very tight. Tight enough to bunch the paracord casing when I slide the knots together as I took it down.

I have found that the prusiks hold with the CCS cord even if I use the same line for the ridgeline and prusiks. Just add another loop around when making the prusik if it's not holding like you want it to and pull it tight. On the other hand, I'm not sure how well paracord prusiks would hold on the same paracord ridgeline.
 
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