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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Gear Forum Portage carts (Adirondack use) |
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10/15/2019 11:59AM
I wondered if anyone here had experience with portage carts and canoes. Not too much recent when I searched here except maybe
2018 thread
and that led to an older model from Seattle Sports and outside BWCA.COM (horrified?) I found these:
nemo-extremo
Light weight, airless, simple, in the middle price wise.
Multiple mile portages seem not uncommon around this part of the world and these won't work everywhere but some on roads etc. - should make it easy.
Primarily SR Tranquility, for now at least.
2018 thread
and that led to an older model from Seattle Sports and outside BWCA.COM (horrified?) I found these:
nemo-extremo
Light weight, airless, simple, in the middle price wise.
Multiple mile portages seem not uncommon around this part of the world and these won't work everywhere but some on roads etc. - should make it easy.
Primarily SR Tranquility, for now at least.
10/16/2019 06:44AM
I have a nice rugged one that can be completely disassembled for storage in a kayak hull but I'll have to take a pic of it. Can't seem to find it listed anywhere online doing a quick search for 'canoe carts'.
Otherwise, I like the high clearance on the one linked in the 2018 thread. (Seattle Sports Paddleboy ATC All-Terrain Center Kayak and Canoe Dolly Carrier Cart)
Seems like fat tires are the trend on most models. Probably ideal for mud or snow but I still prefer narrow, spoked tires.
Otherwise, I like the high clearance on the one linked in the 2018 thread. (Seattle Sports Paddleboy ATC All-Terrain Center Kayak and Canoe Dolly Carrier Cart)
Seems like fat tires are the trend on most models. Probably ideal for mud or snow but I still prefer narrow, spoked tires.
“If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Sir Isaac Newton
10/16/2019 08:42AM
Two things I don't like about that nemo extremo. First it says the frame is anodized. That suggests that the frame is made from hollow aluminum tubing. If any of the tubes bend you have a useless cart. Second the wheels are just hanging off the end...they are not supported on both sides, so the axles can bind and will not roll as freely as wheels supported on both sides. It even looks like the cart is sagging with the wheels tilting a bit in one of the pics with the red kayak on it. It's possible that it's an OK cart but personally I'd avoid it. The one I have that's shown on your link weighs 28 pounds but at least the steel frame isn't going to bend or break. It's made in China which doesn't thrill me. The axles are just bolts with metal sleeves and work well enough but I'd still prefer an older one that had real bicycle wheels with super low friction axles. You might look for a used one like the one in my pics...they turn up fairly regularly but of course not when you need one. Mine has airless tires but personally I think the older ones with real inflatable tires are better. All that said I think you'd be fine if you got a new one just like mine...it's strong and it works.
I think Spring Creek makes a strong cart and I've also seen another super heavy duty cart for around 300-350, maybe in the Piragis catalog.
I think Spring Creek makes a strong cart and I've also seen another super heavy duty cart for around 300-350, maybe in the Piragis catalog.
10/20/2019 11:07AM
This is the cart i have had for a few years now. I do need new wheels but it's been a trouble-free 8 years of use. Designed more friendly for V-hulls than flat bottoms but strap hold my flat-bottomed sit-on-top kayaks well enough. Easy to add an additional strap.
I have the paddle cart listed at $150.
I have the paddle cart listed at $150.
“If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Sir Isaac Newton
10/20/2019 04:53PM
billconner: "Looks stable, not bad @10 pounds, but my Tranq is very flat bottom. I feel like my canoe might sit at a 45.....
Pneumatic tires, yes?"
Yes. They held up until the last couple of years.
For canoes, I place it close the stern-end of the canoe till nested in the "v" then cinch strap tight. Of course, the arms bear brunt of the load than if the cart was centered.
What if you placed two straps, or affix webbing, across t-bars so the flat bottom has support? I had considered having a 2"x 3/8" aluminum bar welded across the 't-handles' but that would mess with the easy disassembly just a bit.
“If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” Sir Isaac Newton
10/20/2019 07:19PM
That's a nice looking cart design. It looks like those bars are around 24 inches apart or a bit more, and maybe 2 feet long. If the bottom of your Tranquility is wide enough (in the middle of the boat) to sit on top of those bars it might be a very good choice. Or maybe add a couple of webbed straps as mentioned if you think your boat is narrow enough to go down into the vee. For long portages I think it's important that you can center the boat so all the weight is on the cart. I had a cart with wheels that were towards the end of the boat and even with a light load it was a lot of work to do my half mile portage since I had to carry much of the weight of the boat and gear in one hand as well as pull the boat and cart along. If you may go "miles" you want the boat centered on the cart so the cart takes the weight.
05/08/2020 10:27AM
So I'm down to these - Seattle Sport and Suspenz leading; Wike interesting and lighter but worry about pneumatic tires and light load capacity; and wonder if Oak orchard is a rebranded Seattle sport or Suspenz. Any last minute thoughts or advice?
Seattle Sport
Suspenz
Wike
Oak Orchard (scroll down about 1/3)
Seattle Sport
Suspenz
Wike
Oak Orchard (scroll down about 1/3)
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