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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Listening Point - General Discussion Beech trees next to go? |
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11/18/2019 03:21PM
ZaraSp00k: "I know there are a few people here in the know, comments?
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/11/mysterious-disease-striking-american-beech-trees?utm_campaign=news_daily_2019-11-14&et_rid=322178674&et_cid=3074180
for whatever reason, the add a link doesn't seem to be working "
A mysterious disease is striking American beech trees
There ya go Sp00k.
butthead
"never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" George Carlin
11/19/2019 08:24AM
Terrible News. I hope beeches don't follow the American chestnut into near oblivion.
Invasive species are currently changing/destroying American wildlands faster than climate change. They are the big understated story of environmental decline, worldwide.
Invasive species are currently changing/destroying American wildlands faster than climate change. They are the big understated story of environmental decline, worldwide.
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.” -Edward Abbey
11/20/2019 10:25AM
One thing I am wondering is that the Middle East used to be forested in some areas that are now desert. I was taught that overuse and climate change caused this, but I have to wonder, being that this area was the cross-roads to the world, if invasive species was also a cause.
The ash tree I have looks like it is OK, but there are now 5 known infected trees in the city I live. Of the three oak trees I had in my yard only one remains, oak wilt. The birch trees draw Japanese beetles which don’t kill the trees, but the grubs have decimated the grass underneath. I have some Norway Maple which does the same for the grass for a different reason, the dense foliage doesn’t let light through. I also have some Amur Maple that are essentially a weed, the squirrels seem to like the seeds in February though. These last two trees I bought from the county! Can I get away with pleading ignorance? The county should have known better than to sell invasive species to the public.
If it weren’t for the fact I’ll probably sell in less than 5 years I’d replace them all, if only I could do it over again.
The ash tree I have looks like it is OK, but there are now 5 known infected trees in the city I live. Of the three oak trees I had in my yard only one remains, oak wilt. The birch trees draw Japanese beetles which don’t kill the trees, but the grubs have decimated the grass underneath. I have some Norway Maple which does the same for the grass for a different reason, the dense foliage doesn’t let light through. I also have some Amur Maple that are essentially a weed, the squirrels seem to like the seeds in February though. These last two trees I bought from the county! Can I get away with pleading ignorance? The county should have known better than to sell invasive species to the public.
If it weren’t for the fact I’ll probably sell in less than 5 years I’d replace them all, if only I could do it over again.
let science, not politics decide, ... but whose science?
11/20/2019 10:46AM
ZaraSp00k: " These last two trees I bought from the county! Can I get away with pleading ignorance? The county should have known better than to sell invasive species to the public.
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From my experience a HUGE number of people--even those working in natural resources--cannot see the big picture, and don't understand the extent of change/damage to the natural environment at all scales.
At the county level, nursery sales are probably just another "job" for most folks.
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.” -Edward Abbey
12/06/2019 02:04PM
Well what do you know. In 1819 when Colonel Leavenworth and Major Forsyth came upriver to establish Fort Snelling, a large beech tree grew on Gray Cloud Island. Being so unique to the area, it was known as Medicine Wood to the natives, and considered supernatural.
12/06/2019 03:08PM
arctic: "Terrible News. I hope beeches don't follow the American chestnut into near oblivion.
Invasive species are currently changing/destroying American wildlands faster than climate change. They are the big understated story of environmental decline, worldwide."
I have healthy chestnuts in my forest, Arctic. There is a disease-immune strain that's fully indigenous, as opposed to the Asian chestnut, which is similar. If anyone wants the link to the nursery that sells this blight-proof strain, let me know.
I will paddle eternal, Kevlar and carbon.
12/06/2019 10:32PM
arctic: "That's great! American Chestnuts were once the premier eastern tree. They do not grow in my part of the world.
American Chestnut Restoration "
It's said that one of every four deciduous trees between the east coast and the Mississippi was a chestnut. Deer hunters are also planting chestnuts because their nuts are 10% protein with little tannin, so they're tasty and nutritious.
I will paddle eternal, Kevlar and carbon.
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