With the last few years we have seen the 4stroke augers grow in popularity. With that said there has been talk of them being cold blooded and such.

This has me thinking of technology and 4strokes. How far off do you suspect battery-less EFI is on our 4stroke augers.

Sleds have been running EFI since the late 90’s but I have not seen it in a small engine application.

Just thinking out loud. Could maybe help with the cold starting issues some have. Oh and to drive the cost up too. I found some good at this link, but I'm not very experience at this

I expect we will see very little innovation in the auger business that doesn't involve batteries from this point forward.

I think you're right in that the vast majority of innovation in the auger arena will be related to battery operated units. We've already seen that play out over the last number of years. Gas augers will stick around for awhile yet as they can still be the best option for certain applications but I'm not sure there will be meaningful advancements in them. If there are I'm guessing they'll be looking to make them lighter and faster. I'm not sure augers being cold blooded is at the top of most people list of issues with a gas auger. The majority of newer models I've used have been just fine when operating in cold weather. The bigger issues are usually weight, the hassle of having to deal with gas and oil, and having to maintain the engine year in and year out.

Since I bought my kdrill and paired it with my Milwaukee M18 Fuel drill I've sold all of my gas and hand augers and I won't be looking back.

I too made the switch to electric and love it. I've been using a 1/2 Milwaukee drill for a decade (both Fuel and none fuel) and while they work full blades and thick ice tend to work it a bit hard, start to get the burnt electric smell. Last year I decided to stop beating my drills up and purchased a Milwaukee 18 volt mud mixer. This thing is just an animal, absolutely perfect, like it was made for doing this job. People are simply blown away by it when coupled to my 8” Nils. Even to rotating handles are nice and make a killer stand to keep the motor off the ice.

Haven't had any issue with my kdrill and M18 Fuel. Through ice averaging 18 inches I can get roughly 50 holes per battery with no noticeable impact to the drill. No burning smell etc. I do have the smaller diameter kdrill as I wanted to get more holes per battery and the smaller holes size wasn't an issue for me.

Haven't had anyone try it yet that hasn't fallen in love with it.

nofish: "Haven't had any issue with my kdrill and M18 Fuel. Through ice averaging 18 inches I can get roughly 50 holes per battery with no noticeable impact to the drill. No burning smell etc. I do have the smaller diameter kdrill as I wanted to get more holes per battery and the smaller holes size wasn't an issue for me.


Haven't had anyone try it yet that hasn't fallen in love with it."

Oh for sure the 6" is WAY WAY WAY easier on drills, no comparison there, the area of a 6" circle is 28.27 sq inches, the area of an 8" circle is 50.26 sqin, thats almost double. Electric drills are designed to cool themselves with the fans in the rear, when you start dumping full current into them and they cant spin at their full speed they will start to heat up, its just a fact. As your blades dull and the drill gets a little wear and tear you will almost certainly notice and slowing after some time.

Ragged: "

nofish: "Haven't had any issue with my kdrill and M18 Fuel. Through ice averaging 18 inches I can get roughly 50 holes per battery with no noticeable impact to the drill. No burning smell etc. I do have the smaller diameter kdrill as I wanted to get more holes per battery and the smaller holes size wasn't an issue for me.



Haven't had anyone try it yet that hasn't fallen in love with it."

Oh for sure the 6" is WAY WAY WAY easier on drills, no comparison there, the area of a 6" circle is 28.27 sq inches, the area of an 8" circle is 50.26 sqin, thats almost double. Electric drills are designed to cool themselves with the fans in the rear, when you start dumping full current into them and they cant spin at their full speed they will start to heat up, its just a fact. As your blades dull and the drill gets a little wear and tear you will almost certainly notice and slowing after some time. "

For sure dull blades increase the wear and tear. Fortunately Kdrill offers free blade sharpening for the life so after the season I can just pack them up and send them in for free sharpening and keep things running smooth and easy.

It would take something pretty special for me to switch from my Nils and M18 Fuel.

Gadfly: "It would take something pretty special for me to switch from my Nils and M18 Fuel. "

If you have a nils and M18 then you have no reason to switch. Nils and Kdrill are both great options. Some like one over the other but you can't go wrong with either.

Gadfly: "It would take something pretty special for me to switch from my Nils and M18 Fuel. "

You are totally good with a 6” and a Fuel, but if you ever want to do lots of ice with an 8” I would strongly encourage the swap, especially if you don’t get your blades sharpened often/ever.